Hulk Hogan said it wasn't real so whatever. Why does it being fake upset so many people? I mean you watch TV Shows and well those characters aren't real. They're portrayed by actors...Jonluw said:Huh, he seems like he admits that WWE isn't real fights.
Well, the fans (most of them anyway) are well aware that wrestling is staged, but they like to suspend their disbelief. It's like watching a movie, it's more fun if you're not constantly thinking 'this is fake'.Timbydude said:...What? That wasn't at all what I was talking about.Trucken said:You don't respect people who take huge risks and suffer serious injuries to entertain the fans?Timbydude said:I don't have too much respect for people who participate in stage fighting that's marketed as real, but I guess I agree with what he said...
... you're not a fan of physical sports are you?
I don't respect the fact that every single action in that ring is a hoax. The entire crux of wrestling is to make sure that the audience is convinced that the fighting onstage is real, even though it's not. WWE is barely a notch above the latest diet pill advertised on TV.
Yeah, lol. It's heavily implied but not explicitly stated. Wrestlers get a lot of shit from their companies if they threaten the scripted nature of the business. Triple H got demoted to the "minor league" for breaking character during a show. For hugging and cheering on two wrestlers?real life friends?that were leaving the company.Jonluw said:Huh, he seems like he admits that WWE isn't real fights.
Timbydude said:...What? That wasn't at all what I was talking about.Trucken said:You don't respect people who take huge risks and suffer serious injuries to entertain the fans?Timbydude said:I don't have too much respect for people who participate in stage fighting that's marketed as real, but I guess I agree with what he said...
... you're not a fan of physical sports are you?
I don't respect the fact that every single action in that ring is a hoax. The entire crux of wrestling is to make sure that the audience is convinced that the fighting onstage is real, even though it's not. WWE is barely a notch above the latest diet pill advertised on TV.
News flash for you. (almost) EVERYTHING ON TV/MOVIES/THE INTERNET IS NOT REAL. Do you also say that you have no respect for games that say "The most real shooter/driving sim/ Cooking adventure" because thats the exact same thing.Timbydude said:...What? That wasn't at all what I was talking about.Trucken said:You don't respect people who take huge risks and suffer serious injuries to entertain the fans?Timbydude said:I don't have too much respect for people who participate in stage fighting that's marketed as real, but I guess I agree with what he said...
... you're not a fan of physical sports are you?
I don't respect the fact that every single action in that ring is a hoax. The entire crux of wrestling is to make sure that the audience is convinced that the fighting onstage is real, even though it's not. WWE is barely a notch above the latest diet pill advertised on TV.
Is there a chance that you went to the same school as the guy you quoted and he was talking about you?Disaster Button said:I also remember being tombstoned at school.Prometherion said:Maybe games dont cause violence, but I certainly remember the time my friend tombstoned my other friend at school.
*scratching head* Vince McMahon out and out said it (not being real fights) years ago, on national television. They aren't trying to hide it anymore - thus the whole transition to "sports entertainment*.PatchlingZoon said:Yeah, lol. It's heavily implied but not explicitly stated. Wrestlers get a lot of shit from their companies if they threaten the scripted nature of the business. Triple H got demoted to the "minor league" for breaking character during a show. For hugging and cheering on two wrestlers?real life friends?that were leaving the company.Jonluw said:Huh, he seems like he admits that WWE isn't real fights.
Maybe if we beat the Congresscritters' heads in, they'll develop some sense?Not G. Ivingname said:...Why is a guy that gets his head beaten on a regular basis have more sense then every single person in Congress?
He said that? Huh. Goes to show how little I actually keep track of the developments in wrestling.epunk35 said:Hulk Hogan said it wasn't real so whatever. Why does it being fake upset so many people? I mean you watch TV Shows and well those characters aren't real. They're portrayed by actors...Jonluw said:Huh, he seems like he admits that WWE isn't real fights.
Pretty sure they stopped marketing it as real after the 80's.Timbydude said:I don't have too much respect for people who participate in stage fighting that's marketed as real, but I guess I agree with what he said...
Other people have also pointed out that the performers do indeed get hurt; and we are aware of that. That isn't the point though. We aren't arguing that the fighters aren't getting hurt when we say it isn't real. We're arguing that it's scripted: The outcome of the match has been decided beforehand. When people watch, say, boxing or MMA, they want to see two professional fighters putting their honed skills up against one another, not watch two actors hurt eachother until the bell rings, and then have one of them arbitrarily called the "winner".tpbloomfield said:Timbydude said:...What? That wasn't at all what I was talking about.Trucken said:You don't respect people who take huge risks and suffer serious injuries to entertain the fans?Timbydude said:I don't have too much respect for people who participate in stage fighting that's marketed as real, but I guess I agree with what he said...
... you're not a fan of physical sports are you?
I don't respect the fact that every single action in that ring is a hoax. The entire crux of wrestling is to make sure that the audience is convinced that the fighting onstage is real, even though it's not. WWE is barely a notch above the latest diet pill advertised on TV.
While wrestling is fake, and can be argued as being essentially acting, with a lot more grunting, the damage it does to the wrestlers isn't false at all. Look at the highflying moves (jeff hardy springs to mind...). The tombstone, if done wrong can break the next and cause severe damage.
For fans of ECW, before it became integrated into WWE, Axl and Ian Rotten's Taipai Death Match -- taped up hands, dipped in super glue, then dipped into broken glass, then beat the hell out of each-other. How do you fake that? The entire front row around the stage got to see the taped up, glassed up, hands up close before the match too, to confirm it was real glass.
Or Terry Funk and Sabu's barbed wire match, replacing the ring ropes with barbed wire. Sabu sliced his arm open (later needing over 100 stitches, still got a very big scar from it), grabbed athletic tape, taped his arm up, and kept going. The match ended with a pinfall despite Funk's shoulders not being down because the wire was a few centimetres from his throat.
They put their bodies on the line every week to entertain the audience. Yes, the audience can be seen as barbaric, but the wrestlers thrived on it.
If that doesn't convince you... Chris Benoit. The damage he suffered by wrestling, as well as the drugs he was on to keep going in wrestling (because it's not just a career, it's a way of life, once you've been out there in the ring in front of thousands of fans you can't do anything else) is the most likely cause of his actions*. Post-mortem autopsy of his brain showed damage equivalent to that of a seventy year old alzheimer's patient.
*for those that don't know what he did, look it up. I'm not going into it here.
Blow by blow, reality television is more faked than wrestling.The_root_of_all_evil said:How many people watch X-Factor and are convinced that's real?
Point made.