Hope he gets better. Been enough bad deaths in wrestling. I was a child when I watched Owen Hart die on live TV. That was one of the most shocking events I've ever seen.
WWE Wrestler Suffers On-Air Heart Attack
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wish the guy all the best but don't give a festered rats arsehole about wrestling. the people involved in the whole show(it IS a show) are just people like us, however much I personally dislike the con-job that is 'wrestling' I cannot belittle someones dedication to their career when it reaches a point like this. I hope you recover from this dude and I hope your family is there for you and that they have some support too because I know they will be hurting too. got nothing else to say that wouldn't seem fake, so, hope you get some more time with people you love man.
Nah, they wouldn't do that. If he comes back to commentary, they will work his heart attack into the script at a future date though.Baron von Blitztank said:
Dude, they HAVE done that. Pretty much every time a wrestler wants to take a vacation or needs some time off in the middle of a "storyline", they get carted out of the ring on a stretcher. (unless it's Undertaker, in which case it's a coffin during a random "buried alive" match)ReservoirAngel said:
Although the fact that it was barely recorded, occurring mostly off-camera and through commentary lends more credibility to it.
I remember I was sitting there watching it in a stream, and at first the show was annoying the shit out of me with stupid skit after stupid skit (especially the one involving Sheamus, Ricardo Rodriguez, and David Otunga), and I was about ready to turn it off shortly before the whole heart attack happened.
Normally, I found the commentary team of Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler extremely annoying, but frankly, I would've loved to have dealt with that for the remainder of the show instead of the complete and utter silence that followed on commentary sans the occasional update from Michael Cole. I was relieved by the end of the night to hear he was starting to get better because, annoying on commentary or not, you don't want somebody to die, even if it's inevitable. At least if you're a decent human being.
Normally, I found the commentary team of Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler extremely annoying, but frankly, I would've loved to have dealt with that for the remainder of the show instead of the complete and utter silence that followed on commentary sans the occasional update from Michael Cole. I was relieved by the end of the night to hear he was starting to get better because, annoying on commentary or not, you don't want somebody to die, even if it's inevitable. At least if you're a decent human being.
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For wrestling fans, this is next on interesting too. Notice when he starts snoring and afterwards the bizarre camera cuts and lack of usual commentary. Usually the commentators can't shut up during matches. You'll also notice ~0:46 Cole bending down under the table, Lawler seen no where. 2:20 they start chanting "Jerry".
For wrestling fans, this is next on interesting too. Notice when he starts snoring and afterwards the bizarre camera cuts and lack of usual commentary. Usually the commentators can't shut up during matches. You'll also notice ~0:46 Cole bending down under the table, Lawler seen no where. 2:20 they start chanting "Jerry".
It's a horrible thing but I'm glad King has started to pull through. Props to Michael Cole as well for being professional and carrying on commentary while King was being seen to and for delivering the updates, he maybe a douche but he was obviously worried and did his job.
That skit with Sheamus was great, the whole jewish/irish bit they had. "If your lipshitz what does your arse do?"Sean Strife said:
That aside Jerry is one of my favorite people in all of the WWE, I felt bad to see him suffer a heart attack and perhaps it's time for him to stop being so physically involved. Getting the shit kicked out of you by CM Punk can't be good for anyone, especially someone his age. Surprised Ric Flair is still alive, he was also taking beatings long after he should've quit.
Side note: Anyone wanna bet Ryback is on steroids?
I'm just not comfortable with blanket statements like this. This might sound naive to some people, but based on my experiences with pro wrestling, I can't say that cocaine is all that prominent. It was during the 80's, sure, if you were a big enough star or making enough to get your hands on it. It was the eighties, if you had money/fame then you likely had access to coke. Before and after the 80's, you hear little if any mention of it, especially among average pro wrestlers. I would also submit that the majority of pro wrestlers likely aren't on performance enhancing drugs. If you only look at the WWE within the last 30 year time frame, that doesn't sound right, but if you take into account the last 60 years and broaden the scope beyond the WWE, you find that most wrestlers simply don't have body builder physiques.KingHodor said:
With Lawler, he has the career outliers for heart problems.
He was a big star during the 80's, which increases the likelihood that he used dangerous drugs during his full time wrestling career, which ended in the early 90's, and his family has a history of heart problems. I just genuinely hope that this one man's condition is not seen as indicative of the entire industry.
You mean the movie where Mickey Rourke plays a retired pro wrestler who saved his money and got a sweet gig doing commentary, likely making more than some active wrestlers half his age doing it, who's still famous despite not having wrestled a full schedule in more than a decade ONLY to suffer a heart attack likely by no fault of his own?Vault101 said:
I'd still say that The Wrestler exaggerates circumstances in some cases for dramatic purposes. Usually the guys that end in Rourke's position weren't typically main eventers. It's entirely possible, and there are a number of wrestlers who had their zenith in the 80's who then fell on hard times. Still, there are plenty of stories where wrestlers turned out just fine in the end. Brad Rheingens saved his money, bought a cottage on a lake, and trained Brock Lesnar. Rick Steiner sells real estate. Karl Gotch lived to the age of 82, and taught early MMA leagues in Japan. Things just aren't anywhere as dismal for the industry as The Wrestlers, unfortunately, leads people to believe.piinyouri said:Oh believe me, I know.Jack the Potato said:Most pro wrestlers absolutely love the business, and have a very hard time letting it go. Can't say I blame them, it really seems like a dream career. Lawler is old, that is true, but fans still love to see him do the occasional match to prove he's still got it, and I think I can safely say he loves to do them as well. Sometimes you do things that don't make sense in order to be happy and have fun, yea?piinyouri said:
I was watching RAW when it happened, and it was pretty eerie. I was touched by Michael Cole's very extreme concern for Lawler, given that in-character they're supposed to hate each other. I'm glad he's stabilized, and I hope to hear how he's doing from his own mouth very soon.
I know he's just doing what he loves.
It just..honestly hurts me to see my favorite wrestlers put their lives in jeopardy this way.
The movie The Wrestler got it pretty much right on the head as far as wrestler's lives and careers go, and not being able to leave.
As per the responses above, you would be genuinely surprised how many actually do see their 50th. There are over 13,000 pro wrestlers listed on the Internet Wrestling Database, and that's taking into account that (in the course of a massive re-design) they haven't yet added wrestlers whose names begin with N. I know plenty of wrestlers who don't have articles on there yet who are definitely trained and licensed. IWD also doesn't list nearly as many Mexican Luchadors as the Luchwiki (around 3000, btw). Or any of the wrestlers from the developing world, such as Rwanda. There are just too many, and there's no reliable way to keep track of them all. Many of the wrestlers who have died before the the age of 65 in the last two decades were almost always stars of the 80's, most of whom subscribed to a fitness routine closer to the needs of a body builder than to those of a high impact athlete.Dags90 said:
S#$& be complicated, yo.
As a wrestling fan, this is shocking news (even though I'm not a Lawler fan). This proves that wrestling can be "real" at times. Also, I'm kinda surprised on Cole's comments involving the whole situation, considering how much shit he gave Lawler for most of last year.
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.
Lawler's actually one of the notable people who has (apparently) never smoked, drunk, or used drugs.[/quote]Antitonic said:
DVS was talking about the business in general in terms of it taking a toll. He even replied with an image of Chris Benoit.
Besides, just about everyone was notable for not doing drugs until caught.
I still expect CM Punk to be found dead in a hotel with a needle in his arm.
I'm not trying to imply this guy was that much like the main guy in the movie...it was just the "older wrestler having a heart attack in the ring"...that was it, alot of the other comments implied that thease kind of health problems for wrestlers are more of a "thing" that I would have thourghtSadakoMoose said:
as for the movie....I figured in Randys case it was because the guy didn't think too far ahead in terms of his future and was bad at managing money
DVS was talking about the business in general in terms of it taking a toll. He even replied with an image of Chris Benoit.Zachary Amaranth said:
Besides, just about everyone was notable for not doing drugs until caught.
I still expect CM Punk to be found dead in a hotel with a needle in his arm.[/quote]
Punk is straight edge. He has been forever, and it's even been worked into his gimmick every so often.
OT: Call me a baby, but I was damn near in tears when this happened. Jerry was a prominent figure in my life growing up, with the old WWF and even to nowadays. I thought I just watched the man die on live TV, and then Cole looking all sad and putting on his Owen Hart voice...god, it was just a torrent of feels that made me so sad. Glad to see he's doing okay, although he's more than likely gonna be of commentary for a LONG time.