x-factor: is it a plague on our society?
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We all know it isn't a singing competition it's a popularity competition and if everyone votes for some guy who can't sing it will just prove something else we already know, that the british people love the absurdSammi Costello said:
No, it's not a plague on society, it's a fucking music-themed reality TV show.
Your horse is so high you're getting a fucking nose bleed. Get off it.
Your horse is so high you're getting a fucking nose bleed. Get off it.
Thats just the industry in general, the second you make music for a demographic (and they teach you to do that when studying music at university) you have sucked the creative and artistic value out of music.The Artificially Prolonged said:
I couldn't disagree more, I am fairly open minded with music, there are no right answers with art, but there are definitely some wrong answers.fletch_talon said:
Art is supposed to be an expression of human emotion, so passionless music that is neither written by or conceived by the artist is always going to be lacking the real X Factor which is why the shows name and premise is a big joke to anyone who is actually interested in music.
Being open minded to others points of view is a virtue, but believing everything is of equal artistic merit is naive!
Honestly, I don't see a problem, yes it does produce these talentless 1 song wonders but that's it. I don't watch it yet I can understand how someone would like it. I don't see it as a plague or a group of demons playing with peoples minds, just a group of people that are very cleaver with marketing.
I think it is because its biased. if someone did heavy metal he wouldn't be taken seriously and the only person who might have a inkling of understanding metal whose ever been on it was Sharon Osbourne. the same applies for ever genre besides pop and R&B or classical
Put simply, no, X Factor is not a plague. If you're asking if it's a symptom of a society with low artistic values, then absolutely, but it's not a plague in itself. But then, shit music didn't start with X Factor, it started aggeeeess ago. X Factor is merely a derivative form of pop, and democracy, combined in the worst possible way, with the worst possible results.shootthebandit said:
There's no need to be melodramatic about stuff like X Factor, it's not 'ruining music', nor 'infecting' people, it's just a shitty TV show that people freely decide to watch. People who want to listen to good music, or improve/expand their taste in music, can do so easily with the aid of the internet. Whether or not other people want to is their choice, even if it is a bad one.
Well, such is the nature of the mainstream becoming more involved in the media in general.shootthebandit said:
Understand that a lot of the arguements against Democracy are based on things like this. If you've taken ethics, socialogy, and similar classes and ever read anything defending Totalitarianism, Dictatorships, Monarchies, and even socialism, you'd be aware of some strong cases being made for having an "elite ruling class" and demonstrations of why strong leadership can benefit a society in the long run. The complete idiocy of the masses and the "lowest human denominator" are not things people are just noticing recently. People have been writing about it for centuries. People becoming disinterested in their own elections, or voting idiots into power based on their needs of the moment or slick presentation are often quoted weaknesses of democracy by people who have advocated other political systems. Ditto for the affects on national pride, and culture.
See, to many minds culture, artwork, etc... is something that exists to elevate a society. It gives people something to strive towards, and puts the intellectual elite on pedestels as people work to understand, and improve upon their works. In a democratic-type society where the people themselves have power, especially a consumer culture, it can be argued that things eventually become as dumb as the masses themselves. Only a rare gem glinting from what amounts to a trough full of feces.
Don't get me wrong, I don't actually AGREE with such stances, and I'm not making pro-democracy arguements here in counter point, I'm simply saying they exist, and do make some valid points. No govermental system is perfect, and for all of it's advantages, what we're looking at is the downside of the system adopted by the US. I simply think the pros of our way of doing things vastly outweigh the cons. For example I'd point out that we STILL get that gem, even if it takes longer to get here, and we have to play "bobbing for gemstones"
in giant barrels full of liquid shit.
I don't think so. I think it's one of many symptoms of a plague sweeping the Western world. That plague is laziness. Not physical laziness- people work just as hard as ever, but intellectual and moral laziness. It's easier not to think and take delight in trivialities. It's easier to judge someone else's life than to judge your own. It's easier to be selfish than selfless. It's easier to justify selfishness than selflessness. It's more natural. It's instinctive. But, it's lazy, and it's damaging.shootthebandit said:
That's what I think the plague is. There are many symptoms.
its like the crap tim and eric on cartoon network spew out of their mouthes they need to be taken off the air
It's just entertainment. Why so serious? 