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***Obvious Spoilers are Obvious***

Okay so I figured there should be a thread for what aired last night. I always considered X-files to be important and noteworthy in Geek culture even if it wasn't always great.

I watched it religiously with my dad in the 90s and loved it but lets not pretend all the episodes were great. Hell even the last few seasons after Mulder left were absolute ass and not worth watching.
I'd say the good episodes are still good but the bad episodes are somehow worse.

But I digress. Last night's episode was...interesting.

The good: It was so satisfying to see Mulder and Scully together again, even if their on/off relationship has taken a mawkish turn towards the sloppy and silly.

It was so amazing to hear that theme again. I even liked that the opening footage was from the original show nearly 10 years ago. Made it feel like as far as the canon is concerned these are just more episodes.

I like how they modernized it, with drone surveillance, social media, YouTube vloggers, the militarized police state. And Mulder's paranoia somehow works well with modern political/human rights concerns.

The Okay: The acting was exactly what we've come to expect. Serviceable but not exceptional. Wooded, but its a very nice rich wood you can appreciate.

I even enjoyed Skinner and the Smoking Man being alive again. Them dying was a stupid plot-choice and it was fun to see Skinner and Mulder buck heads without missing a single beat from the last decade.

Joel McHale was an interesting character. Pseudo Bill O'Reilly but with more...I guess millennial-ness. I will say him flirting(at least I think it was) with Scully was off-putting, mostly because it came from and went nowhere. I mean she's in his limo, drinking his champagne. Are they heading back to his place to have sex? Scully never struck me as the type of person who sleeps with men she's just met that morning and who are what, 15 years younger than her?!

The Bad: I'm not sure what the plot was supposed to be.

First off with all she's experienced you'd think Scully would cut Mulder some more slack. Here she is lambasting him for his conspiracy theories and obsession when she herself has fallen victim to the very evil forces she's telling him don't exist.

Also I remember liking Mulder more and him being less dumb. He just felt like a central-park blindfolded horse the entire time. Being led by the nose and believing the opinion of the last person he talked to, even if it contradicts everything he had believed and personally experienced about aliens.

Speaking of, aliens aren't real anymore? Or at least not active? So the American government has been using UFO abductions as a smoke-screen to cover up normal human abductions for nefarious reasons.

Sure! Good! Great!

But what about the actual aliens from the show? I mean here we have Fox Mulder, alien believer, saying he doesn't think aliens are behind abductions anymore when he himself has been abducted! For fucks sake he rescued Scully from a giant alien ship in the first movie! And they've seen alien hybrids, stopped invasions, found out about Government conspiracies, and fought more ghosts, zombies, monsters and daemons than Scooby and the Gang!

And Scully really needs to get her head out of her ass. Not believing Joel, Fox or the one chick about aliens when she's been abducted like 4 times, was artificially impregnated during one abduction and has fought and killed multiple aliens through the show and movies. Hell, she watched a giant UFO fly over her after her abduction in the first movie.

And yes at the end she confirms that the canon did in fact happen and that she remembers being abducted, but that was like the last 2 minutes. For the rest of the episode you'd be forgiven for thinking she's forgotten the entire show ever happened.

Oh saying Mulder has depression which simply explains everything was weak.

And the great conspiracy is that what, taking over America? A. How Saturday Morning Cartoon-show of them and B. wait, the American Government is trying to take over the Government? Correct me if I'm wrong but if this shadowy elite organization already controls the Presidency, the Pentagon, the entire Military, the Police, news organizations and almost all corporations then how are they not already in charge? And how are they not just the Government as normal?

Mulder himself points out the Government lies and does illegal things all the time. And yet here we have Scully and Mulder in a plot to stop the Government from using the Government to lie and do illegal things?

When she gave her big "this is stupid" speech I fully expected Scully to bring something like that up. The Government already exists. Uncovering lies is one thing, but you can't stop the government from taking over the government. And she should have pointed out that Aliens are in fact real because she's fought and killed them before and both she and Mulder have been actually abducted by ?grays?.

The conclusion: For the sake of the show I'm eager to see where they're going with this. I do think the script needed another draft to tighten things up.
But it was a delight to see Mulder and Scully doing their thing and I'm eager to see them investigating the paranormal again!
 

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undeadsuitor said:
I'm confused though. So the aliens I guess detected H-Bombs, circa Star Trek First Contact, and came to Earth to save us form our own technology/obsession for war. Sure I'll run with that.

Then why did Mulder reference ancient aliens coming down to visit out ancient ancestors and references in the bible to flying saucers. It's not like during the Exodus or Trojan War we had H-bombs going off.

Also if the aliens are supposed to be helping us, why are they being dicks? Presumably at this point aliens are not abducting people, its been our government the entire time. But what about the plans for alien colonization and human erradication from the earlier seasons? Did those just not happen?

Bio-engineered bees anyone?!?
 

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undeadsuitor said:
I was actually talking about the episode with my dad at the gym tonight and his view was that because Christ Carter left the show after the 3rd season and he's writing these episodes and is on record saying he didn't like where the producers took the show after he left then as far as we fans should be concerned this is the unofficial official 4th season.

Everything past the 3rd season is non-canon and this is the 'real' season 4.
 

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Of course the skeptical answer to Scully could be explained by the idea that just because you kill a werewolf doesn't make vampires real. Even if I believed in aliens doesn't then necessarily correlate to a belief in all aliens. 'Patient X' episode in Season 6 (Edit: It was season 5) has Mulder do the exact same thing. Mulder doesn't necessarily disbelieve in aliens, he just comes to find that his faith in all alien accounts to be ludicrous. He even goes so far to say that most of them are likely garbage born from a willingness to believe, as opposed to a desire for the truth.
 

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I enjoyed it - I followed the original X-Files series for several seasons, and most of the new season seemed to be television well shot and made. The second episode was better, and from what I've heard, the third will be even better still.

The thing that annoyed the hell out of me, though, was the scheduling and the football game.

Here's the thing - I don't begrudge sports fans their televised football, I really don't. But these channels have been airing televised sports longer than I've been alive (and, for that matter, almost as long as my father has been alive). They know how long these games are - they've had literal decades to figure it out. And yet, they consistently give the game a timeslot that is at least half an hour too short, causing hell to anybody trying to follow a show or DVR it (as I did). So, rather than watching the premiere in HD on my DVR, I got to watch the first half of the premiere on the DVR, and the other half on choppy video online.

It's a serious piss-off if you're not a sports fan, and it's not even a benefit to the network (after all, give the game an extra half hour on the schedule, and that's an extra half hour of advertising time you can sell at a premium because of all the sports fans). But, they're still doing it out of...I honestly have no idea - it really makes no sense to me.