xbox 3 to not play used games rumor.

darksakul

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Magichead said:
Oh didn't you hear? We've not been buying a product for years, when you buy software you are apparently, despite purchasing a physical item with all necessary information for function included, only buying a license to use a service, or some shite.

As to the rumour, well, I doubt this is true, but if it is Microsoft can look forward to having all of its shit pirated pretty much forever, on a much larger scale than is the case today. It's doubtful they'd be able to prevent the console itself being sold secondhand, so anyone who waited a year or so for the price to drop could buy a 720 up cheap, chip/flash it, and just pirate every game they release. Most people buy used games because they can't afford the prices of new, and if the PC as a platform has demonstrated anything, it's that people without a big disposable income would rather play your game for free than not play it at all. That's not advocacy, by the way, before anyone gets report-happy, it's simply my honest assessment of what will happen.
I grudgingly agree with that statement. It be only a matter of time until someone hacks the Next Gen Xbox (what ever MS decide on calling it) and we load our own emulators, home brew and pirated games on the system. It is sad that the more anti-copy, anti-used games that are made the more the legit customer base gets punished and the more customers that are now lost to Microsoft for favor of another console that will treat them well or they just go pirate shit.

If this turns true I hope Sony don't make the same mistake MS does, just so there is an next gen console I can go purchase. As I am already avoiding the Wii U like a vegan avoids double bacon cheese burgers.
 

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This is to be expected, despite all the vitriol fired by everyone. The industry went full force behind consoles because they had more control over the platform and it was much harder to duplicate and pirate software (which still isn't hard, incidentally, but its harder).

Now the oft-discussed spectre of GAMESHARING (which is astonishing to me, because of many memories of bringing a new game to a friend's house to play) is the new topic of ire; do not be surprised when the highly regulated consoles prevent it utterly.

Everything is going to be Steam-like in the future. Period. No doubt about it. You won't get boxes and the only thing you'll buy in stores are gift cards and download codes.

Too bad the networks are going to look a lot more like Origin and games for windows live, and a lot less like Steam.

I will stick with the Wii (and Wii-U?) for nostalgic console gaming, mostly to play new iterations of Metroid, and will keep my PC loaded with Steam titles to keep me busy otherwise.
 

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They know that there are 40% of people that play offline games, eliminate used games and the console will fail. They wouldn't do it, I won't believe it until Microsoft announces it themselves.
 

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I like rumors like this, because they give me a good laugh over the lunch hour.

Firstly: If Microsoft decides to impliment this type of system (I assume either via activation codes or some other sort of code) they should be smart enough to realize that they need to drop the price of their games to reduce the MASSIVE backlash they would get.

Also, they wouldnt completely nix the used game market, they would most likely offer some way for you to purchase a "activation code" so they could get $$ back.


I doubt that these will come to fruition though, as again.. there would be a large backlash from people who use the used game market as their primary source of purchasing
 

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as much as this has 'horribly bad idea' written all over it, (in florescent pain with bright neon lighting)

>.>

i wanna seen em try, cause i don't think it'll work. console disks don't have activation codes, only PC games do
 

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Lilani said:
henritje said:
why would they? As far as I know MS doesn't lose profit on used games.
We have a winner! Unless Microsoft is getting paid off by publishers to do this (which is doubtful, they've already got enough money to line a few olympic sized swimming pools with gold) there is absolutely no reason for them to do something like that. It would just hurt the marketability of their console and would make them the biggest assholes of the decade.

If they thought they could use it to rope in some xbox exclusives they might. Especially if its something that they think would sell the game on release a bit like FF and MGS do for the PS.
 

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News flash, Xbox 3 is going to have windows 8 on it, if they're trying to bridge the gap between PC and console, maybe they're trying to have game installs.
 

RJ Dalton

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I never liked Xbox to begin with, so it makes no difference to me. If they want to wipe themselves out of the competition, that's their business.
 

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Yeah, it's still in the rumor mill so I take that with a grain of salt, but if that's true that will have a huuuuuge impact on my willingness to get the console.

It'd have to be able to dispense free tacos and give me the gift of flight in order to make up for that. I'm hoping it firmly stays in rumor territory, 'cause that's troubling.
 

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Exclusives aren't worth a dime if your customer base hates you so much they won't buy the console. Plus it's also disfranchising retailers, so even the stores they'll be counting on to sell the games and consoles will be mad and might even stop carrying their stuff.

And, now that I think about it, why would this need to be done on a console level? All publishers would have to do is a product key like they do with PC downloads and voila. Same results, and no having to bribe a console maker to do it.
 

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I can't see why... unless they're planning to go digital with it, in which case they better be selling a couple quid below retail to begin with. Honestly I can see the appeal in that though. They'd be paying out more on storage to host all of the titles, but they'd get a cut off publishers and their own titles would be near enough pure profit. It's just a matter of selling the idea to the public.

Unless of course they go the Origin way of doing things by trying to sell digital games at boxed retail price.
 

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Lilani said:
Talshere said:
Exclusives aren't worth a dime if your customer base hates you so much they won't buy the console. Plus it's also disfranchising retailers, so even the stores they'll be counting on to sell the games and consoles will be mad and might even stop carrying their stuff.

And, now that I think about it, why would this need to be done on a console level? All publishers would have to do is a product key like they do with PC downloads and voila. Same results, and no having to bribe a console maker to do it.
Your point assumes that the developers are actually in touch with reality. Time and time again devs and publishers have proven that they have not idea what is going on in the world and what the public think of them.
 

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Microsoft was the first company to require online activation for a major software product, Windows XP. Consumers fought it back then, but I doubt many of us are still using Windows 2000 or earlier. After MS proved that consumers could tolerate online activation for software, less than a decade later most major PC game releases require activation on steam, origin, etc even if they are bought at retail.

So yeah, I'd be surprised if the next generation consoles from MS and Sony don't have required online activation. They can prevent the "I keep my console offline" excuse by shipping the system with built-in 3G satellite internet; that's what Amazon does for the DRM on some kindles.
 

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If this was true I'd just get a PS3 and no new Xbox. But it isn't. So nevermind. Microsoft would lose way too much money, and they're hardly charitable enough to consider doing that.
 

Lilani

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Talshere said:
Your point assumes that the developers are actually in touch with reality. Time and time again devs and publishers have proven that they have not idea what is going on in the world and what the public think of them.
And what about the other part? The part about how just attaching product keys to all of their games would be a much simpler, much easier, much cheaper, and much easier to implement way of not allowing their games to be sold used? They may not give two shits about their customers, but they do care about their bottom line, and I can guarantee just about ANYTHING is cheaper than paying off a company like Microsoft.
 

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If that's true, I'll keep my 360. Maybe get a PS3 alongside as well. I don't think it is though; nobody, not even Microsoft, would think that was a good idea.
 

Zen Toombs

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Yeah, I find this unlikely. Also, if the third Xbox is just as expensive and doesn't allow used games, then I probably won't buy it. I buy a mix of used and new games, because I don't have anywhere near the money needed to buy all of my games new.