Xbox iPlayer Deal Delayed Indefinitely

Bob_F_It

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In their greed, it seems that Microsoft have underestimated what the license fee means, believing that they can get a second payment for something which is offered free at point of use everywhere else, including Windows.
 

GamingAwesome1

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Uhrgh. Why does microsoft always require a dollar sign in front of everything before they even consider doing it? I mean, they have most of the worlds money, they could be generous once and not even notice the loss.
I agree, greedy bastards!
 

GloatingSwine

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The Xbox would, of course, be yet another device that I wouldn't actually use iPlayer on, because mostly I use it to have something on to idly watch whilst I've got a game on.
 

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Crimsane said:
Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Sky, Twitter, Facebook, Zune> Iplayer. Everyone has a pc with internet so why not just watch iPlayer on that?
Maybe people want to watch it on their Xboxes! Maybe they should be able to for free just like PS3 and Wii. Microsoft isn't winning anyone over with actions like this.
Yes they are. They are winning the favor of all the gold members who pay thier 60 a year for features like this. What I don't understand is the problem. Why can't they make it for gold members. It isn't like they are paying directly for the service. It is just an extra.
 

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squid5580 said:
Crimsane said:
Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Sky, Twitter, Facebook, Zune> Iplayer. Everyone has a pc with internet so why not just watch iPlayer on that?
Maybe people want to watch it on their Xboxes! Maybe they should be able to for free just like PS3 and Wii. Microsoft isn't winning anyone over with actions like this.
Yes they are. They are winning the favor of all the gold members who pay thier 60 a year for features like this. What I don't understand is the problem. Why can't they make it for gold members. It isn't like they are paying directly for the service. It is just an extra.
Yea but BBC provide iPlayer for free, they don't want people to pay for a free service you can get on the internet when you already pay for your TV licence fee
 

shifty89

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if you are already paying a fee for tv license then you shouldnt have to pay microsoft again for the priveledge
 

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Timelord91 said:
squid5580 said:
Crimsane said:
Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Sky, Twitter, Facebook, Zune> Iplayer. Everyone has a pc with internet so why not just watch iPlayer on that?
Maybe people want to watch it on their Xboxes! Maybe they should be able to for free just like PS3 and Wii. Microsoft isn't winning anyone over with actions like this.
Yes they are. They are winning the favor of all the gold members who pay thier 60 a year for features like this. What I don't understand is the problem. Why can't they make it for gold members. It isn't like they are paying directly for the service. It is just an extra.
Yea but BBC provide iPlayer for free, they don't want people to pay for a free service you can get on the internet when you already pay for your TV licence fee
So would they be paying twice then (I mean the consumer)? Be paying 60 bucks a year and then paying X amount for the TV license on top of that? If that is the case then it doesn't make much sense for MS not to charge an extra fee of top of the license fee and open it to all. Although the discussion would be the same.

*EDIT* Wait a second. Does MS see any of that license money? Or are we to expect that they invest the time, money and bandwidth for free?
 

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Pet Peeve time:

A company is an "it" not a "they."

So, "Microsoft has," and "Microsoft is," rather than "Microsoft have" and "Microsoft are." The more you know!
 

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squid5580 said:
Crimsane said:
Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Sky, Twitter, Facebook, Zune> Iplayer. Everyone has a pc with internet so why not just watch iPlayer on that?
Maybe people want to watch it on their Xboxes! Maybe they should be able to for free just like PS3 and Wii. Microsoft isn't winning anyone over with actions like this.
Yes they are. They are winning the favor of all the gold members who pay thier 60 a year for features like this. What I don't understand is the problem. Why can't they make it for gold members. It isn't like they are paying directly for the service. It is just an extra.
The BBC is paid for by taxes. It therefore doesn't contain any adverts or whatever because it doesn't need them and it's free. People don't want to pay double to watch it (I guess) and the BBC doesn't want to force them to.

edit: Bugger, ninja'd
 

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jedstopher said:
squid5580 said:
Crimsane said:
Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Sky, Twitter, Facebook, Zune> Iplayer. Everyone has a pc with internet so why not just watch iPlayer on that?
Maybe people want to watch it on their Xboxes! Maybe they should be able to for free just like PS3 and Wii. Microsoft isn't winning anyone over with actions like this.
Yes they are. They are winning the favor of all the gold members who pay thier 60 a year for features like this. What I don't understand is the problem. Why can't they make it for gold members. It isn't like they are paying directly for the service. It is just an extra.
The BBC is paid for by taxes. It therefore doesn't contain any adverts or whatever because it doesn't need them and it's free. People don't want to pay double to watch it (I guess) and the BBC doesn't want to force them to.

edit: Bugger, ninja'd
Actually you weren't ninja'ed. You answered a question I had in my second post. We already are paying MS "twice" for the same service. We pay for our internet we get through whatever companies we use. Then we pay MS for being able to use it that every other company gives away for free. I just can't fault MS for not offering a free service it would have to invest resources in to make available.

Better Funk?
 

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Danny Ocean said:
Chipperz said:
Ranooth said:
Good old Mirco$oft.
Congratulations! You worked out that the dollar sign looks like an "S"! You are the first person ever to realise that! You're so witty!
Calm down tiger.


I don't see the problem here. Everyone has a PC anyway, why not just watch it on that?
Exactly. I've got 2 PCs and 2 TVs, one has Virgin and one has Freeview, so I can watch Iplayer in four different places at the same time. Somehow. If you've got even basic cable or satellite on any TV in your house, you can get iPlayer.

shifty89 said:
if you are already paying a fee for tv license then you shouldnt have to pay microsoft again for the priveledge
If you have a TV license, the likelihood is that you have access to Iplayer on your TV. If you have the internet (which you would, seeing as it would be on Live, you can access it on that. It doesn't matter. At all.
 

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Danny Ocean said:
Chipperz said:
Ranooth said:
Good old Mirco$oft.
Congratulations! You worked out that the dollar sign looks like an "S"! You are the first person ever to realise that! You're so witty!
Calm down tiger.


I don't see the problem here. Everyone has a PC anyway, why not just watch it on that?
My arguemnt for pro PC gaming, everyone has one, why not have it do everything?
 

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Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Sky, Twitter, Facebook, Zune> Iplayer. Everyone has a pc with internet so why not just watch iPlayer on that?
Y'know, the same could be said for everything else you said except Zune.
 

johnman

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Xzi said:
What the hell is an iPlayer? And why should I care, considering that I live in America? You know what, don't answer either question.
There is more to the world than America, and a large number of users are Europeon on this site.
Do you hear the rest us complaining about the vast majority of content on this site being American? No?
Then shut up


Stubee said:
I couldn't give a shit about iPlayer, or Netflix, or Sky on my xbox.

Am i the only one who plays games on my xbox now?

Why should you get any of that stuff for free? They dont owe you shit
I assume you have no internet connection or Tv in your house then, as if you do the BBC owes you shit loads. But then if your happy to give the BBC money for no return then I suppose they dont.
 

wooty

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I usually watch iPlayer on my PS3, my computer chair is so bloody uncomfortable, cant sit and relax for that long
 

teutonicman

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Microsoft deserves to eat all the dicks. It is very nice not paying for gold, the extra $60 feels nice.
 

SG Xibalba

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Thank you the voice of reason - Shifty89.

You know, whilst I certainly don't begrudge anyone having this service if it's made available, what people outside of the UK (yes, we're looking at you America), don't seem to realise is that all that good stuff you got on XBL last year? We've only just got it (ie: watching a movie with your friends for instance). Whilst you were able to utilize Netflicks, we weren't and were stuck with crappy downloads that you could only watch on your own. I could go on.


Ok, I will.

The iPlayer service does concern me however, as I am convinced that this is nothing more than the BBC's way of clandestinely placing their services in any and every possible way into UK households and then increasing the License Fee because 'well, you have it on your house, it's not our fault you don't watch it' - because THAT my friends is how it works over here.

You see, until about 3 months ago before the national switchover to digital, we had 5 'terrestrial' broadcast channels available to all:
'BBC1'
'BBC2'
'ITV'*
'Channel 4'*
and 'Five'*
*These last three are not publicly funded, and raise their revenue like most American tv stations via advertising. Regardless of whether you ever watched one of those BBC channels during those 365 days, we are required (by law) to pay the BBC £139:50 a year (approx $230), no arguements, that's it. This is on top of any seperate plan you may have taken out (ie: satelitte or cable services with other companies due to most of the BBC's programming being sh*t or repeats).

You should also be aware that the BBC has such a hold (due to it's 'Royal Charter', that they only managed to renew a few years ago by the skin of their very teeth), that if you ever purchase a new TV here in the UK you are required by Law to register your address and have it confirmed before it leaves the store - this is for their infamous 'TV Detector DataBase'.

The BBC's greed knows no bounds - about 2 years ago the BBC even tried to push thru a new bill that would ensure that rather than charging an annual £139:50 ($230) per houshold, it would begin charging PER TV SET. The British public were of course up in arms about this (not helped either by the fact that the BBC squanders much of these publicly raised funds on crap every year - something that happened to come to light around that time, giving them major bad press), and it never came into law, but it was close - such is their sheer arrogance.

So you see, my issue is the fact that America inparticular never gives a stuff when the British or any other country starts complaining that they can't obtain a certain service that Americans have (Hulu is another good example that we couldn't access, along with youtube starting to follow the trend of late to a ridiculous extreme) - yet as soon as you see someone else with something shiny that you don't have, you kick off.

My fear is that because the BBC's iPlayer is available online should people want it, and because it may very well end up on gaming consoles (like the PS3 for example), that WE will be paying for it.

So hey, kick back, enjoy.

Don't worry about us.