Xbox One Top-Selling US Console in December, According to NPD

[Yopaz]

Now if you read the bit you did quote you will see that I am referring to those who said it would be a COLOSSAL FAILURE. I agree when you say it's not winning, but if you're going to call it a colossal failure at this point I would like to know your definition of small success. Because that must mean they sell 10 consoles to every single living person in the world if you're going to this a COLOSSAL FAILURE.

Having your enemy breate in your neck in the only market you can still hold over while last time you beat same guy 3 times over in same market is a collosal failure. we never said it would go bankrupt, no, just that it will loose severely to PS4. SO far the loss is 1.5 million. if you were to add WiiU sales in the period since PS4 launch to XboxOne sales you still wouldnt get as many sales as PS4. PS4 is clearly leading the board, and if, as you say, their sales is limited by supply shortage, that means there still are plenty of people that are waiting to buy it as fast as they can. As predicted, this is clear win for PS4. Heck, they almost took the US market - the Xbox stronghold almost fell to Sony. When your enemy is picking at your walls raising them down you are loosing the war.

So the fact that they're only beating Sony by a little is a colossal failure? If you're going to exaggerate this much I see no need to argue this with you.

 

[Jadak]

Step 1: Wait years for new console of your choice.
Step 2: Save for months to afford it.
Step 3: Go to get it at the midnight release.
Step 4: Decide to get a different one because the one you want is out of stock.

Wait........I can't speak for everyone but thats definitely not how anyone I know operates.

That's because you've mistaken several of the steps in that particular chain of thoughts.

In this sort of case it would be more like:

Step 1: Go to store at arbitrary time, not midnight release, to buy new console.
Step 2: Maybe you had preferences, maybe you didn't care which. Either way, only one is in stock, decide to get that one.

Not everyone is an avid fan with their heart set on one or the other, definitely not a good number of parents simply trying to get gifts.

 

[RedDeadFred]

As others have pointed out, this is more a show of how Microsoft was able to meet its consumer demands more than Sony rather than a show of which console is in higher demand.

I wanted to get a PS4 but it sold out too quickly and if I wanted to get one from Amazon, Id have to wait until two days ago (this was back in the middle of November). I'm kind of happy this has happened now though seeing as the launch lineup is fairly unremarkable. Second Son is the game I'm looking forward to.

You'd think Sony would have realized how many consoles they needed to make from their pre-order numbers. Even thought I have no intention of buying an Xbone for the foreseeable future, I've gotta hand it to Microsoft for being ready.

 

[babinro]

leaked NPD numbers

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=176178&page=32

XBO: 908k
PS4: 864k
360: 643k
Wii U: 481k
PS3: 299k

Huh. Based on everything else I've seen on The Escapist and other gaming sites, I would have thought Sony was eating Microsoft's lunch. Guess it's not that clear cut.

Agreed.

The online impression from sites like this is that PS4 is on top because people want a 'next gen' look. WiiU is very close behind because it clearly offers the best games on the market and best prices. Xbone is a complete failure that only appeals to die hard fanboys who must continue with their exclusives.

More importantly than that the online impression tells me that none of these consoles are worth supporting at all. They should all be bringing very low sales numbers relative to expectations because of all the corporate practices that refuse to change and in fact get worse with each console generation.

Clearly, the general mind set of gamers at the escapist or similar sites are completely out of touch with reality.

 

[Strazdas]

Of course it matters, Sony have handed Microsoft a major victory here and they will feel it for years to come. By allowing Microsoft to selling so many consoles they have allowed Microsoft to build up a massive install base, a bigger install base than they had in the first 12 months of the 360 in fact.

This means the Xbone will now remain competitive for a long time to come, more consoles out in the wild means more revenue from games and services for Microsoft. Many people will only by one console as well, what happens if they got the Xbone instead? What should have been an easy victory for Sony has turned sour because Sony couldn't meet demand.

No its not meaningless and I do not know what parallel universe exists where it would be.

But there is no major victory. Microsoft has managed to sell mroe consoles than sony in US? Anyone expected anything else? Victory? It would ahve been victory if it would have played out like Xbox360 vs PS3 - 3 times more sales in US. right now it looks like its a neck on neck, and they are loosing everywhere else in the world, so i wouldnt call that a victory.
Microsoft already had a massive install base. Same for Sony and Nintendo. Besides, you talk about it like Sony would have a lower install base now. they sold more consoles worldwide you know. and almost same amount in US. the difference is ~10-20% at best.

Xbone will remain competetive. a polished turn would remain competetive. Thats brand loyalty to you. And it wont matter if it was MS or Sony that pulled that. The real question is how much and how long. PS4 is a more pwoerful hardware, and as we saw at the end of the last cycle, this is a huge advantage that shows up over time. PS4 also has higher install base now worldwide, also has plenty of players in all over the world meaning all types of genres are going to be profitable, meanwhile Microsoft will ahve to rely on western oriented sales only.
Microsoft may have been able to defend its stronghold in this battle but the PS4s are piled so high they are almost over the walls. Sony has won this war.

So the fact that they're only beating Sony by a little is a colossal failure? If you're going to exaggerate this much I see no need to argue this with you.

the fact that the are only beating sony by a little in US and loosing everywhere else is a colossal failure. This is a failure of the level of if microsoft would sell better in Japan than sony or nintendo. they almost lost their home castle, they already lost all the land outside of it. to continue the war analogy, a lord may boast strenght behind his castle walls but hes going to starve under siege all the same. And the castle walls are crumbling.

You'd think Sony would have realized how many consoles they needed to make from their pre-order numbers. Even thought I have no intention of buying an Xbone for the foreseeable future, I've gotta hand it to Microsoft for being ready.

Its not about realizing the demand, its about chinese sweatshops not being able to bend time.

 

[Yopaz]

So the fact that they're only beating Sony by a little is a colossal failure? If you're going to exaggerate this much I see no need to argue this with you.

the fact that the are only beating sony by a little in US and loosing everywhere else is a colossal failure. This is a failure of the level of if microsoft would sell better in Japan than sony or nintendo. they almost lost their home castle, they already lost all the land outside of it. to continue the war analogy, a lord may boast strenght behind his castle walls but hes going to starve under siege all the same. And the castle walls are crumbling.

Just out of curiosity, do you have any degrees of failure? Colossal failure is something I would rate pretty high on the failure scale. If you're going to use the most extreme adjectives on small things which ones are left to use when you actually need strong adjectives? If beating Sony by a small margin is a colossal failure how would you rate it being beaten by the Wii U? Super Awesome Massive Colossal failure? Power death? Apocalypse?

Are you one of those guys who report on extreme drought when precipitation is 10mm less than the median in a year?

I won't say this is a huge success on Microsoft's side, I even suggested this may simply be a matter of availability rather than a competitive edge.

I don't care about the Xbox One, but I do get annoyed with people who have to go to the extremes at small things. You should work in the media, they do love that kind of stuff there.

Now you have a few choices here. You can either admit that "Colossal failure" is an exaggeration, or you can do the passive aggressive thing and simply leave it or you can define your degrees of failure to me and explain why this is a colossal one and also explain to me what degrees come after colossal.

If you fail to do this and still reply, still exaggerating then I will ignore your post and all your future posts because I will do like you and exaggerate and conclude that everything you you have ever said will be worth NOTHING du to exaggerations and that all your future posts will be worth NOTHING due to exaggerations. Your choice.

 

[J Tyran]

Of course it matters, Sony have handed Microsoft a major victory here and they will feel it for years to come. By allowing Microsoft to selling so many consoles they have allowed Microsoft to build up a massive install base, a bigger install base than they had in the first 12 months of the 360 in fact.

This means the Xbone will now remain competitive for a long time to come, more consoles out in the wild means more revenue from games and services for Microsoft. Many people will only by one console as well, what happens if they got the Xbone instead? What should have been an easy victory for Sony has turned sour because Sony couldn't meet demand.

No its not meaningless and I do not know what parallel universe exists where it would be.

But there is no major victory. Microsoft has managed to sell mroe consoles than sony in US? Anyone expected anything else? Victory? It would ahve been victory if it would have played out like Xbox360 vs PS3 - 3 times more sales in US. right now it looks like its a neck on neck, and they are loosing everywhere else in the world, so i wouldnt call that a victory.
Microsoft already had a massive install base. Same for Sony and Nintendo. Besides, you talk about it like Sony would have a lower install base now. they sold more consoles worldwide you know. and almost same amount in US. the difference is ~10-20% at best.

Xbone will remain competetive. a polished turn would remain competetive. Thats brand loyalty to you. And it wont matter if it was MS or Sony that pulled that. The real question is how much and how long. PS4 is a more pwoerful hardware, and as we saw at the end of the last cycle, this is a huge advantage that shows up over time. PS4 also has higher install base now worldwide, also has plenty of players in all over the world meaning all types of genres are going to be profitable, meanwhile Microsoft will ahve to rely on western oriented sales only.
Microsoft may have been able to defend its stronghold in this battle but the PS4s are piled so high they are almost over the walls. Sony has won this war.

Sony have far from won, thats why this is a victory for Microsoft. The launch should have been an easy win for Sony, it should have been a knock out punch but they fucked it up.

Sony had the better console, they had a better price and they where riding a huge wave of consumer good will. Microsoft had angered their customers and the console was worse value, it was Sony's race to lose. They had it in the bag but they slipped up, mediocre games and poor supply have allowed Microsoft to do pretty well.

No they have not sold as many consoles as Sony but its Microsoft's best selling console ever! and that puts Sony pretty far from winning this generation, not only that with Xbox One games holding the highest average positions in the sales charts with an average of three games per console Microsoft are selling more games! Thats upset Sony so much they are apparently forcing retailers to sell bundles only.

Now I am sure you can carry on ignoring the implications of that if you want but the facts are the facts, Sony had a far worse start to the last generation and they did all right in the end and turned it around with great games. Microsoft are nowhere near that far behind and are looking pretty successful.

So yes Sony turning what should have been a catastrophic launch of the Xbone into Microsoft's best selling console ever and selling more games than Sony is a victory for Microsoft and now at this point this console gen is still up for grabs. When it comes to regional issues Microsoft have always been focused in the west and had practically non existent sales in Japan for instance.

 

[Strazdas]

Just out of curiosity, do you have any degrees of failure? Colossal failure is something I would rate pretty high on the failure scale. If you're going to use the most extreme adjectives on small things which ones are left to use when you actually need strong adjectives? If beating Sony by a small margin is a colossal failure how would you rate it being beaten by the Wii U? Super Awesome Massive Colossal failure? Power death? Apocalypse?

Are you one of those guys who report on extreme drought when precipitation is 10mm less than the median in a year?

I won't say this is a huge success on Microsoft's side, I even suggested this may simply be a matter of availability rather than a competitive edge.

I don't care about the Xbox One, but I do get annoyed with people who have to go to the extremes at small things. You should work in the media, they do love that kind of stuff there.

Now you have a few choices here. You can either admit that "Colossal failure" is an exaggeration, or you can do the passive aggressive thing and simply leave it or you can define your degrees of failure to me and explain why this is a colossal one and also explain to me what degrees come after colossal.

If you fail to do this and still reply, still exaggerating then I will ignore your post and all your future posts because I will do like you and exaggerate and conclude that everything you you have ever said will be worth NOTHING du to exaggerations and that all your future posts will be worth NOTHING due to exaggerations. Your choice.

there are many degrees of failures but that is not the point. colossal failure is high, albeit admittedly a bit exaggerated in the situation. however Microsoft did fail pretty hard in this case.
This is not any degree of sucess on microsofts side, the question is only how big the failure is.

I also already explained why this is a colossal failure in my previuos posts, you can read that up there.

Sony have far from won, thats why this is a victory for Microsoft. The launch should have been an easy win for Sony, it should have been a knock out punch but they fucked it up.

SOny have won. By 1.5 million, even against the superior supplier. There is no victory for microsoft here, only strong walls they inherited from the old generation not giving in yet. Nothing in console market is an easy win, and as been pointed before us, the enthusiasts, are only a minority of consumers. Majoritys choice replies on far more than which console is actually better and even then we saw a victory for Sony.

Sony had the better console, they had a better price and they where riding a huge wave of consumer good will. Microsoft had angered their customers and the console was worse value, it was Sony's race to lose. They had it in the bag but they slipped up, mediocre games and poor supply have allowed Microsoft to do pretty well.

Except, that, sony actually won. Games were mediocre on both sides, but thats the launch lineup for you.

No they have not sold as many consoles as Sony but its Microsoft's best selling console ever! and that puts Sony pretty far from winning this generation, not only that with Xbox One games holding the highest average positions in the sales charts with an average of three games per console Microsoft are selling more games! Thats upset Sony so much they are apparently forcing retailers to sell bundles only.

Its also Sonys best selling console ever. the market simply grown larger. I looked up the weekly sales charts for the consoles yesterday and it seems that Micirosft had won merely on account of COD being in the top all the damn time. Also need i remidn you that there was TWICE as many software preorder for PS4 than Xbox One? ALso ironically Xbox 360 sold more games than Xbox One, so thats hardly a measure.

Now I am sure you can carry on ignoring the implications of that if you want but the facts are the facts, Sony had a far worse start to the last generation and they did all right in the end and turned it around with great games. Microsoft are nowhere near that far behind and are looking pretty successful.

The facts are simple. Sony sold more consoles. Sony sold more everywhere but US. In US sony sold almost as much as microsoft. US is considered microsoft stronghold and they expected to sell at least twice the amount that sony did. Sony is sold out and is selling off all it can manufacture, while Microsoft is paying for storage. Facts are in Sonys favour.
Oh and lets not predict which one will sell more games in 8 years since we got no idea what games are they going to be.

So yes Sony turning what should have been a catastrophic launch of the Xbone into Microsoft's best selling console ever and selling more games than Sony is a victory for Microsoft and now at this point this console gen is still up for grabs. When it comes to regional issues Microsoft have always been focused in the west and had practically non existent sales in Japan for instance.

Really, now its sonys fault that Xbox sold so much? Because its not like microsoft went back on all the bad practices that clearly won a lot of costumers back (we saw a lot of such posts on this forum alone). Yes, microsoft has always been more focused in the west, and they are loosing even there, so what will happen once we open the eastern market? you expect Microsoft to win that one and outshoot Sony? i sure dont.

 

[Branindain]

I would just like to point out that while the XB1 has a narrow lead in North America (where the 360 beat the PS3 to a pulp) the One is getting an absolute pantsing throughout Europe, almost 3 to 1 last I looked.

 

[J Tyran]

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I admire your dedication to your chosen champion but sorry I do not see how Sony handing Microsoft a lifeline is a good thing, its a collosul fuckup and there is no other word for it. Turning what should have been an easy victory into a two horse race is not a good thing.

Neither is Microsoft's best selling console ever a failure, its a success [http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/success?q=Success] by every measure. Is it as big as success as the PS4 sales? No obviously not, if you want to actually know what a failure [http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/failure?q=failure] is have a look at the Wii U. By every measure thats a failure, Nintendo will have to work hard to turn it around. Microsoft on the other hand can just hold their course while the console recoups its RnD costs and then the hardware is in profit as each console is already profitable on production costs, the software sales are already speaking for themselves. The lead Sony have is not insurmountable either, its far smaller than the gap between the PS3 and the 360 last generation so one million more consoles is not a huge obstacle so Sony cannot afford to make any more mistakes like this. There is no way to tell how things will pan out in the future yet so declaring either a "winner" or a "loser"[footnote]Only the raging fanboys with zero objectivity really give a crap about that anyway[/footnote] is premature to say the least, Microsoft might release a Kinect free version and undercut Sony on cost or Sony might blow us away with awesome games over the next two years. Too early to call it, you are ignoring another important factor too.

This console generation is no longer just about how many consoles are out in the wild, its as much about the other revenue streams and exclusive deals. Microsoft will be making hundreds of millions of USD a year with all its NFL and streaming services, Sony will be making immense profits from other similar services and its own music and movie services. These deals and services will factor heavily on the financial success of both machines, I would bet that Smartphones and mobile devices will be heavily involved in this by the end of the generation as well with both manufacturers having their own lines of mobile devices.

But if you want to go on thinking that Sony handing their biggest competitor a lifeline and failing to capitalise on all the advantages they had is a good thing I won't stand in your way, have at it hoss.

 

[Strazdas]

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I admire your dedication to your chosen champion but sorry I do not see how Sony handing Microsoft a lifeline is a good thing, its a collosul fuckup and there is no other word for it. Turning what should have been an easy victory into a two horse race is not a good thing.

Then, i take it, you know how SOny could have easily crushed microsoft so they wouldnt sell a single console? Because Sony does not control humans liek slaves and didnt jut tell them to buy MS product over it. Im sure Sony did the best they could, or at least they think so. New console release could never be an easy victory.

Neither is Microsoft's best selling console ever a failure, its a success by every measure.

A successful sale does not mean you beat your competitor though. Just because your opponent hasnt completely crushed you does not mean that you won.

Microsoft on the other hand can just hold their course while the console recoups its RnD costs and then the hardware is in profit as each console is already profitable on production costs, the software sales are already speaking for themselves.

consoles (as in hardware) arent profitable on sale. the numbers we had was ONLY the hardware parts and assembly costs, and let very little left for storage transportation, maangement, ect. They arecertainly still selling for loss-loading on both MS and Sony case. Software is telling us that 360 is the most popular one and that PS4 was so popular it crushed Xbox in preorders and that Xbox players were mroe careful and bought the games later. It also confirms us again that world is crazy for COD.

The lead Sony have is not insurmountable either, its far smaller than the gap between the PS3 and the 360 last generation so one million more consoles is not a huge obstacle so Sony cannot afford to make any more mistakes like this.

Considering that last generation 360 was leading up to 3to1 ratio meanwhile sony not only got that up and managed to overshoot them this is clearly a mistake on Microsoft part. Can Micrisoft take over if they suddenly become the holy grail? certainly. Does it look like they will? not unless they do another 180 and actually be consumer friendly.

There is no way to tell how things will pan out in the future yet so declaring either a "winner" or a "loser"[1] is premature to say the least, Microsoft might release a Kinect free version and undercut Sony on cost or Sony might blow us away with awesome games over the next two years. Too early to call it, you are ignoring another important factor too.

Yes, therefore we should stick with the present. and present says that Sony won everywhere but US, and noone expected it to win in US to begin with. However it still did so well it almost won there too. and as you say, noone knows what will happen in the future so lets stop predicting microsoft suddenly becoming new steam and taking.

This console generation is no longer just about how many consoles are out in the wild, its as much about the other revenue streams and exclusive deals. Microsoft will be making hundreds of millions of USD a year with all its NFL and streaming services, Sony will be making immense profits from other similar services and its own music and movie services. These deals and services will factor heavily on the financial success of both machines,

This is true, however this does not negate the fact that larger install base is still better in this model, and Sony simply has larger install base as of latest data. How profitable said services be we will see once the financial reports hit, however if MS will continue using same "Free games" as competition to playstation plus as it is now i think the tendency is quite clear.

I would bet that Smartphones and mobile devices will be heavily involved in this by the end of the generation as well with both manufacturers having their own lines of mobile devices.

thats different department. if we include that we may as well include sonys movie industry and microsoft office products. But lets not, because were talking consoles here, not companies.

But if you want to go on thinking that Sony handing their biggest competitor a lifeline and failing to capitalise on all the advantages they had is a good thing I won't stand in your way, have at it hoss.

The problem with this sentence is that you think sony somehow intentionally allowed microsoft to "have a lifeline". Thats not how old brands competing work. brand loalty alone woudl ensure MS survival, the question was just who will take the lead and by how much.

P.S. before you start thinking im a fanboy or anything, im not. I dislike both consoles and am a PC gamer, however the victory for Sony this time is quite obviuos.

 

[Lightknight]

So I certainly wouldn't use the word "winning" to describe Microsoft at all right now. Not unless my last name was Sheen.

Neither would I. I would also say that it's too soon to say anything at all. If you read beyond that sentence you quoted you will see that I state various reasons why this might be, including that Sony have released its console in more countries than Microsoft which means the stock will be lower.

Now if you read the bit you did quote you will see that I am referring to those who said it would be a COLOSSAL FAILURE. I agree when you say it's not winning, but if you're going to call it a colossal failure at this point I would like to know your definition of small success. Because that must mean they sell 10 consoles to every single living person in the world if you're going to this a COLOSSAL FAILURE.

Edit: Also it seems you to have misunderstood my comment about their stock.

I didn't mean that they had less stock GLOBALLY, I specifically said this might indicate that they had less stock in USA. You know, the country where it has currently sold the most.

Seriously, did you make even a slight attempt to read my post? I'll be honest and say I didn't bother with yours because you blatantly ignored ALL of mine and just went straight to disagreeing.

Considering the amount of market share they appear to have given up to Sony, yes, I think it would be appropriate for some to think of this as a colossal failure. Maybe it's not a big enough failure to end the division altogether but they had everything going for them before E3. A failure is doing the best you can and coming up short because the competition was better. A colossal failure is shooting yourself in the foot such that your competition has a significant headstart and don't even have to directly compete with you except to rub your own errors in your face.

Now, in the US the damage isn't as bad as it could have been. They went from around 2/3rds of the market (often doubling Sony in sales in the US)to very close to 50-51%. This was Microsoft's territory. The big one keeping them afloat. They even gave up ground around the world by entirely dropping some markets and delaying release to the others.

This is potentially catastrophic for them to be equal to a competitor whose traditional area of strength was the rest of the world only and not the US. In those other areas, Sony has also made huge strides. In Europe, Sony had a smaller lead over the 360 than Microsoft had over the ps3 in the US. Now it looks like Sony's lead has expanded significantly into to potentially be more than 66%. Add that to the ps4 being the only one of the two launching in Asian markets and I would absolutely think colossal failure could be used here.

However, as you said, we're looking at three months of data. It'll take a couple years to review the long term trends and to see what changes the two companies make along the way.

As for the stock comment. I'm not sure what the distinction between global supply and local supply matters in the modern market where shipments around the world require little time. Sony did send shipments every week. They just couldn't send enough. But I do agree that a failure to stock shelves in the US likely resulted in people getting an XBO because it was available rather than by preference.

 

[Yopaz]

Considering the amount of market share they appear to have given up to Sony, yes, I think it would be appropriate for some to think of this as a colossal failure. Maybe it's not a big enough failure to end the division altogether but they had everything going for them before E3. A failure is doing the best you can and coming up short. A colossal failure is shooting yourself in the foot such that your competition has a significant headstart.

So still not trying to understand or read my post. Well I can see you're not going to make an attempt either so I'm not going to bother with a decent reply.

 

[Lightknight]

Considering the amount of market share they appear to have given up to Sony, yes, I think it would be appropriate for some to think of this as a colossal failure. Maybe it's not a big enough failure to end the division altogether but they had everything going for them before E3. A failure is doing the best you can and coming up short. A colossal failure is shooting yourself in the foot such that your competition has a significant headstart.

So still not trying to understand or read my post. Well I can see you're not going to make an attempt either so I'm not going to bother with a decent reply.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you in the majority of the discussion so much as contributing. Does that clear things up? The component that I am disagreeing with you in is why I think colossal failure would be admissable here. It's not how many units it has successfully sold. It's how many it should have sold in relation to the competition. A generation that loses larges amounts of market share is a failure.

You also responded to me while I was editing my post. I thought it best to add some numbers and a few things like clarifying that this is only information gained from three months. Something you and I agree is too little time. Especially when Microsoft can make any number of changes.

 

[Lightknight]

Oh, I'll also respond to the OP here with the comment that the NDP isn't talking about the number of consoles sold. They're talking about the amount of money changing hand. Don't forget that every XBO sold is an additional $100 over every ps4 sold.

However, 6 of the top 10 software spots is impressive any way you slice it. Here is my analysis of it:

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2013/USA/ (just go down the list and only count the ones with WiiU, PS4, or XBO and only look at the "yearly" column rather than total)

1. New Super Mario Bros. U (WiiU 945k)
2. COD: Ghosts (XBO 941k)
3. COD: Ghosts (PS4 815k)
4. Nintendo Land (WiiU 686k)
5. Super Mario 3D World (WiiU 666k)
6. New Super Luigi U (WiiU 661)
7. Battlefield 4 (XBO 640k)
8. Battlefield 4 (Ps4 589k)
9. Assassin's Creed IV (PS4 520k)
10. Forza Motorsport 5 (XBO 509k)

I count 4 = WiiU, 3 = XBO, and 3 = PS4

Note that 4 and 5 come bundled together. I do not know if NDP thinks of these as software sales so much as a WiiU bundle like Nintendo land is too. Perhaps they didn't count WiiU? That'd be interesting if that's how the government views the WiiU as not a next gen console... It is nice to see WiiU games on the list though. I suppose they did have a year to sell compared to the other consoles' less than two months to sell.


1. COD: Ghosts (XBO 941k)
2. COD: Ghosts (PS4 815k)
3. Battlefield 4 (XBO 640k)
4. Battlefield 4 (Ps4 589k)
5. Assassin's Creed IV (PS4 520k)
6. Forza Motorsport 5 (XBO 509k)
7. Dead Rising 3 (XBO 495k)
8. NBA 2k14 (ps4 425k)
9. Ryse (XBO 414k)
10. Killzone: Shadow Fall (PS4 406k)

Hmm, I'm still seeing 5 and 5. There's no way they would be 6 if WiiU was included so I think the real story here may be that the government doesn't see the WiiU as next gen, which would indeed be insulting.