XCOM: Not compatible with Win XP.

[Andrew_C]

Yet still be able to afford Xcom.....

So, maybe he's been saving since they announced it?

It's an amazing concept. What you do, is you don't spend all your money every month, but you set a bit aside so you can buy something expensive you really want later. It may be illegal in the States though, because it's socialist and anti-consumerist.

 

[Woodsey]

This started happening at least 2 years ago. So, uh... quelle surprise? 7's meant to be the XP slayer anyway.

 

[Zhukov]

I heard it also won't run on a typewriter.

Scandal, I say, Scandal!

 

[LGC Pominator]

Wow you guys are being brutal about this one...
I am actually surprised that XP has maintained a strong support base for all these years, however it is a fairly solid OS, so it does kind of make sense in some ways.

Honestly though, my abacus can't run this game?! WORST COMPANY EVAR

 

[thenumberthirteen]

It's not surprising. I mean it's 11 years old. That's like complaining they're not bringing out a PS2 port. They'd have to work extra hard and spend a lot more money to get it to work on an older system for little return. If you are serious about PC gaming then you should really upgrade to a newer OS.

 

[Joccaren]

Hell, throw out the XP issue and could a five year old computer even run XCOM?

My 7 year old computer ran Crysis, so I'm going to go with yes. Easily.

OT: Yeah, as cruel as it sounds, XP is old and very outdated. I was originally against an upgrade even to 7, as it still arbitrarily re-arranges a number of things from where they were in XP which was just annoying, but you get used to it. Once you figure out where everything is, its better than XP in most, if not all, ways. It is a worthwhile upgrade if you want to keep gaming on your PC, and IMO even if you don't.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

There's literally only one reason not to upgrade to Win7, and that's because it disables stereo mix devices.

Just dual boot.

 

[Jandau]

To the people who ask "Why don't you upgrade" with the same condescension of suggesting people might want to start wiping their arses with toilet paper instead of dry leaves, the cheapest I can get the most basic W7 Home edition in my country is around $180, with the Professional and Ultimate editions going above $200 and as high as $400-500. Now, to you this might seem like a small amount. To me it isn't. I'm using a 5-year old PC and my gaming budget is VERY tight. I buy all my games discounted, I trade with my friends, we share Steam accounts, and even then it's not much fun. For the amount of money that some of the more advanced versions of Windows cost I could almost build a solid PC...

Now, I understand that people might find it absurd that someone is complaining about such an old system not being supported, but please don't be douchebags to those of us who might not be thrilled at the idea of dropping down roughly $200 to get more or less the same functionality we have on the XP.

Yet still be able to afford Xcom.....

Yes. I can wait for it to be on sale and maybe share the cost with a few friends. I'll probably end up paying $20-30, depending on how good a sale I can find and how many people pitch in. Buying W7 Professional would wipe out my gaming funds for 5-6 months. I was looking forward to XCOM and I'd love to play it, but I'm not up for paying several hundred dollars for it.

So you need a professional edition for.... you are on a domain network?

Or do you just want a professional edition because you dont know any better?

$180 is the bare minimum I'd have to pay for the Home edition. I'd like the Professional edition if I could get it since I like some of the extra features, but that aside, even the cheapest I could go for would demolish my budget until next spring, and that's assuming I could cough up the money on the spot, which I can't. I'd have to stop all spending and save for several months just to get the OS, and then I'd have to save even longer to get the game itself (since the people I'd normally share the cost with aren't going to be getting the game since they don't really feel like getting a new OS for just one game).

In fact, I'm not quite sure what your point is here. To persuade me I have more money than I actually have?

And all that is completely beside the point - I don't object to there not being XP support for XCOM, I object to people in this thread being condescending pricks to anyone who might no like that development. You know, kinda like you're being...

 

[babinro]

My 2001 PC can't run XCOM either....WTF!

 

[RicoADF]

To the people who ask "Why don't you upgrade" with the same condescension of suggesting people might want to start wiping their arses with toilet paper instead of dry leaves, the cheapest I can get the most basic W7 Home edition in my country is around $180, with the Professional and Ultimate editions going above $200 and as high as $400-500. Now, to you this might seem like a small amount. To me it isn't. I'm using a 5-year old PC and my gaming budget is VERY tight. I buy all my games discounted, I trade with my friends, we share Steam accounts, and even then it's not much fun. For the amount of money that some of the more advanced versions of Windows cost I could almost build a solid PC...

Now, I understand that people might find it absurd that someone is complaining about such an old system not being supported, but please don't be douchebags to those of us who might not be thrilled at the idea of dropping down roughly $200 to get more or less the same functionality we have on the XP.

To be fair, people are responding to someone that doesn't seem to understand that new games are no longer supporting an old OS and seem to be degrading said game since they don't want to (or can't) upgrade. If you understand that new games are no longer going to support said OS, and accept it, then it's not you people are complaining about.

In regards to the cost, shop around you can get Win 7 for around $120 AUD online. Or in your case I'd suggest looking at saving up for your next pc (if your not already) as this is just the tip of the iceberg, your 5 year old machine is getting to the end of its lifespan of playing new games. Soon you wont be able to play any on it, so best to start planning ahead, not just for xcom but for future gaming.

 

[Spacefrog]

To the people who ask "Why don't you upgrade" with the same condescension of suggesting people might want to start wiping their arses with toilet paper instead of dry leaves, the cheapest I can get the most basic W7 Home edition in my country is around $180, with the Professional and Ultimate editions going above $200 and as high as $400-500. Now, to you this might seem like a small amount. To me it isn't. I'm using a 5-year old PC and my gaming budget is VERY tight. I buy all my games discounted, I trade with my friends, we share Steam accounts, and even then it's not much fun. For the amount of money that some of the more advanced versions of Windows cost I could almost build a solid PC...

Now, I understand that people might find it absurd that someone is complaining about such an old system not being supported, but please don't be douchebags to those of us who might not be thrilled at the idea of dropping down roughly $200 to get more or less the same functionality we have on the XP.

Yet still be able to afford Xcom.....

Yes. I can wait for it to be on sale and maybe share the cost with a few friends. I'll probably end up paying $20-30, depending on how good a sale I can find and how many people pitch in. Buying W7 Professional would wipe out my gaming funds for 5-6 months. I was looking forward to XCOM and I'd love to play it, but I'm not up for paying several hundred dollars for it.

Not to sound like another "Douchebag" but you need to stopnseeing it as paying 180 dollars for playing XCOM, and see it as paying 180 dollars to play any new game you want without software problems.

If 5-6 months of gaming budget not worth 5-10 years of games, then maybe PC gaming is not for you.

 

[Jandau]

To the people who ask "Why don't you upgrade" with the same condescension of suggesting people might want to start wiping their arses with toilet paper instead of dry leaves, the cheapest I can get the most basic W7 Home edition in my country is around $180, with the Professional and Ultimate editions going above $200 and as high as $400-500. Now, to you this might seem like a small amount. To me it isn't. I'm using a 5-year old PC and my gaming budget is VERY tight. I buy all my games discounted, I trade with my friends, we share Steam accounts, and even then it's not much fun. For the amount of money that some of the more advanced versions of Windows cost I could almost build a solid PC...

Now, I understand that people might find it absurd that someone is complaining about such an old system not being supported, but please don't be douchebags to those of us who might not be thrilled at the idea of dropping down roughly $200 to get more or less the same functionality we have on the XP.

To be fair, people are responding to someone that doesn't seem to understand that new games are no longer supporting an old OS and seem to be degrading said game since they don't want to (or can't) upgrade. If you understand that new games are no longer going to support said OS, and accept it, then it's not you people are complaining about.

In regards to the cost, shop around you can get Win 7 for around $120 AUD online. Or in your case I'd suggest looking at saving up for your next pc (if your not already) as this is just the tip of the iceberg, your 5 year old machine is getting to the end of its lifespan of playing new games. Soon you wont be able to play any on it, so best to start planning ahead, not just for xcom but for future gaming.

Of course I understand and accept that games will slowly stop supporting XP. I'm not happy about it, but I understand. But quite a few people in this thread are being dicks to anyone who might still be running XP, which IMO isn't fair and is quite unjustified.

As for my next PC, I'm pretty much safe as far as hardware goes until the next console generation. Nobody is making games that would actually put all that advanced PC hardware to use, anything that has the budget for high-tech graphics is also likely coming out on the consoles as well and will therefore be made to accomodate their hardware as well. The length of this console generation has left gaming in a stasis bubble as far as graphics go.

In fact, this is also why I'm not quite sure why XCOM wouldn't support XP. It's built to run on a 360, so it can't be super advanced technically in any way, shape or form. So what the hell?

Not to sound like another "Douchebag" but you need to stopnseeing it as paying 180 dollars for playing XCOM, and see it as paying 180 dollars to play any new game you want without software problems.

If 5-6 months of gaming budget not worth 5-10 years of games, then maybe PC gaming is not for you.

What "new games"? The number of games that don't support XP and are actually worth playing is pathetically low. The only game I can think of that requires Vista or higher that I wanted to play was Just Cause 2. Halo 2 also required Vista, but it could be made to run on XP just fine. In fact, XCOM is the first game in a long while that has this requirement. It's coming out on the same day as Dishonored (another game I'm looking forward to), which will happily run on XP. Skyrim, Borderlands 2, Mass Effect 3, to name just a few more recent major releases that I enjoyed, all these ran on XP.

So no, I don't see much point in dropping most of my extra income for the next half year to play one game. I'll have to upgrade eventually, most likely when the next console generation hits, but I won't be upgrading just for XCOM, no matter how much I've been looking forward to it. I'm just disappointed I won't get to play it any time soon.

As for the whole "PC gaming might not be for you" bit, are you serious? Console gaming is even more expensive. Just the entry fee of getting a decent TV, a console and a basic library of games dwarfs the costs of upgrading that I mentioned above.

 

[Jandau]

You do know that time wont stop after Xcom right? The 5-10 years may begin right now. New games are future tense. Not past. You are pulling in Skyrim as an example when you need to be pulling in Elder scrolls 6.

We are back to the whole problem of foresight again.

Sure, but what games? When are they coming? Foresight is lovely when you have tons of money. But when you're gaming on a tight budget, you need to prioritize. I mentioned Skyrim and the other games as an example that XCOM isn't a part of a growing trend, it's an isolated incident. Sure, that will likely change at some point, but not for a while yet.

I could start saving up for forseeable future, get no new games or anything and then at some point buy a new OS, likely sometime mid next year. And then have all the games that come out in the next year or two be XP compatible, meaning I would have been better off spending the money on an OS later and enjoying games in the meantime.

I'll upgrade when I start seeing a significant percentage of games I want not support XP. So far, it's one game (XCOM). When a third or half of the games I want to play refuse to work on my OS, then I'll start saving for a new one. I'm not demanding that XCOM be made to work on XP, I'm not raging at the developers, I'm just slightly sad about it.

I'd love to have the money to buy W7 right this moment, but I don't. I'm sorry you can't seem to understand the situation I, and a lot of other people are in, but at least try not to be condescending about it and assume we're idiots...

 

[Hargrimm]

You do know that time wont stop after Xcom right? The 5-10 years may begin right now. New games are future tense. Not past. You are pulling in Skyrim as an example when you need to be pulling in Elder scrolls 6.

We are back to the whole problem of foresight again.

Sure, but what games? When are they coming? Foresight is lovely when you have tons of money. But when you're gaming on a tight budget, you need to prioritize. I mentioned Skyrim and the other games as an example that XCOM isn't a part of a growing trend, it's an isolated incident. Sure, that will likely change at some point, but not for a while yet.

I could start saving up for forseeable future, get no new games or anything and then at some point buy a new OS, likely sometime mid next year. And then have all the games that come out in the next year or two be XP compatible, meaning I would have been better off spending the money on an OS later and enjoying games in the meantime.

I'll upgrade when I start seeing a significant percentage of games I want not support XP. So far, it's one game (XCOM). When a third or half of the games I want to play refuse to work on my OS, then I'll start saving for a new one. I'm not demanding that XCOM be made to work on XP, I'm not raging at the developers, I'm just slightly sad about it.

I'd love to have the money to buy W7 right this moment, but I don't. I'm sorry you can't seem to understand the situation I, and a lot of other people are in, but at least try not to be condescending about it and assume we're idiots...

Well... this is the escapist forums after all, so what did you expect?

My advice for you is to either wait for a mod that fixes compatibility issues(unlikely) or just look for other games.
There are the original X-com games for example, if you haven't tried them already. There is also the UFO series and UFO:Extraterrestrials or UFO: Alien Invasion, which are the closest you can get to the original X-com experience(arguably even moreso than the new XCOM). EDIT: forgot Xenonauts

You could also try Jagged Alliance 1/2(2 preferably with the 1.13 mod), Silent Storm and 7.62 mm. Maybe Fallout Tactics or the Close Combat series.
There is really no point to be sad about not being able to play the new XCOM when there are so many (better) alternatives that you could play.

Although not supporting XP, which is still a widely used OS despite what the other guys in the thread may think, is still a dick move. Just look at the statistics.