I'll wait until The Last Story. Monolith Soft made me spend all my patience having to tolerate the indulgent Xenosaga series. Unfortunately I get the feeling that a lot of people who insisted on it getting released will chicken out.
They are not fully releasing it. They are limiting the release to only two retailers, one of which is Nintendo itself. That's called a limited release. You know how they released Skyward Sword everywhere, Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, Gamestop, etc.... That's called a full release.Trishbot said:You punish them for a bad decision... you should reward them for a GOOD decision, shouldn't you? That sounds fair.randomguy425 said:Mainly cuz Im still upset that they refused to bring it over here in the first place.Semudara said:Why not add it to the pile? ^_^randomguy425 said:This would be a great thing, but with all the amazing games that have been pouring out lately I have completely lost interest in this.
I mean, there are certain companies that make stupid decisions, but I still will give them credit, and reward them, when they make the right choices.
They are releasing the game "fully". You can pre-order the game right now from Gamestop, or buy it directly from Nintendo on Dec 19th.Kakulukia said:This is retarded. Either release the game or don't. Why this "limited release" bullshit?
They did the exact same thing with Chibi-Robo (Wal-mart exclusive), Tenchu on DS (Gamestop exclusive), or Nintendo-exclusive games entirely (Doc's Punch-out Trainer, the Game & Watch DS catalog, etc.)
Nothing is stopping you from buying it from them OR Gamestop. Hell, they could sell this great game only at McDonald's and I'd buy it in a heartbeat because what matters is the game is GREAT, and I'd be proud to support both the developers that made it and the decision of releasing it to us.
They wanted three games released and they got ONE and it's a limited release. They haven't won.Sylocat said:So, Operation Rainfall actually won one! HOORAY!
Now, comes the moment of truth: Will they put their money where their mouths are and actually BUY the game?
I fully expect at least half of them to chicken out. I've learned not to fully trust the gaming communitySylocat said:So, Operation Rainfall actually won one! HOORAY!
Now, comes the moment of truth: Will they put their money where their mouths are and actually BUY the game?
RPGs took a massive nose-dive in the last gen of consoles; I mean really, even Final Fantasy kinda fell into the wayside for a while there. My guess is that Nintendo is using those figures to assume that RPGs aren't going to sell in the states.4RM3D said:I am still clueless as to why it never got released in the USA.
That is a shame...WhiteTigerShiro said:RPGs took a massive nose-dive in the last gen of consoles; I mean really, even Final Fantasy kinda fell into the wayside for a while there. My guess is that Nintendo is using those figures to assume that RPGs aren't going to sell in the states.4RM3D said:I am still clueless as to why it never got released in the USA.
On the bright side, the WiiU is backwards-compatible. You could buy Xenoblade in April and then play it when the WiiU's out.Yal said:Dammit, Nintendo, first Skyward Sword, now this. I don't want to buy a Wii six months before they replace it!
You seem to believe a niche JRPG like Xenoblade could sell as much as Skyward Sword or Call of Duty... only ONE JRPG has sold more than a million copies in the US in over five years, and that was Final Fantasy XIII. This is a SMART move by making and releasing enough copies to satisfy the people (like me) that asked for the game without losing money by making more copies than people will buy.Crono1973 said:They are not fully releasing it. They are limiting the release to only two retailers, one of which is Nintendo itself. That's called a limited release. You know how they released Skyward Sword everywhere, Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, Gamestop, etc.... That's called a full release.
Those other three games you mentioned with a limited release, yeah, I never heard of them until now so you can see how effective a limited release is. I think they want the game to fail so they can say "We told you so" the next time there is a movement like Operation Rainfall.
If they sold this game ONLY at McDonalds and you bought it anyway, they YOU are part of the problem. Read my text: RETAILER EXCLUSIVE GAMES ARE A BAD THING! DON'T ENCOURAGE IT! Please.
Trishbot said:You seem to believe a niche JRPG like Xenoblade could sell as much as Skyward Sword or Call of Duty... only ONE JRPG has sold more than a million copies in the US in over five years, and that was Final Fantasy XIII. This is a SMART move by making and releasing enough copies to satisfy the people (like me) that asked for the game without losing money by making more copies than people will buy.Crono1973 said:They are not fully releasing it. They are limiting the release to only two retailers, one of which is Nintendo itself. That's called a limited release. You know how they released Skyward Sword everywhere, Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, Gamestop, etc.... That's called a full release.
Those other three games you mentioned with a limited release, yeah, I never heard of them until now so you can see how effective a limited release is. I think they want the game to fail so they can say "We told you so" the next time there is a movement like Operation Rainfall.
If they sold this game ONLY at McDonalds and you bought it anyway, they YOU are part of the problem. Read my text: RETAILER EXCLUSIVE GAMES ARE A BAD THING! DON'T ENCOURAGE IT! Please.
For example, Battlefield 3 has sold 3 million copies to date, but there are 8 million copies just floating around on shelves. Now, maybe those will be sold, but more than likely they'll just linger on shelves until they're dumped or sent back to the publisher, which counts as a significant loss of money for every copy unsold.
But, here, let me mention another game with a "limited" release: Two Worlds II. It was Amazon-exclusive in Europe... and it still sold over 2 million copies (which, for the record, is FAR MORE than Skyward Sword, the game you mentioned).
I am not "a part of the problem". There is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING wrong with supporting a game and developer by buying the game where it's available. I'm "part of the problem" if I bought Infinity Blade on the Apple store because they don't have the game available anywhere else on any other platform? Am I "part of the problem" when I buy a game off of Valve's Steam service that isn't available on consoles or at retail stores? Am I "part of the problem" when I bought Shadow Complex off of Xbox Live, the only place you can buy it from?
Don't be so ignorant. There is no "problem". In fact, if you think a limited release is a "problem", the best way to fix it is to BUY THE GAME!
Disney, for instance, wanted a "limited" re-release of The Lion King in theaters a few months ago... until it broke several records, made them a ton of money, and they realized "wow, people want to see this!" and expanded their "limited" release by nearly a month and to several hundreds more theaters. That only happened because people came out to support and buy tickets for the movie.
SUPPORTING something is how you get rid of a "limited" release, so buy it. If you hate Gamestop THAT much, just buy it directly from Nintendo, the publisher, and give them and their hard work all the money instead. You get a phenomenal game, your Wii gets some much needed JRPG love, fans show they wanted JRPGs in the West, the publisher and developers get full profits from you, the customer, and maybe we'll get the other great RPGs waiting in the wings. There's zero downside. Everyone wins.
Apparently someone has never read a "novel" before. It's okay. They have teachers out there that can help you if you're intimidated by anything longer than a twitter post.Crono1973 said:So, from scanning your novel here, I see that you agree that this is not a full release and is, in fact, a limited release. So we agree.
It seems that we don't agree that retailer exclusive games are a bad thing. I think they are worse than retailer exclusive DLC and you take the "addict approach" and say that "anything is better than not getting the game at all".
Oh and BTW, I love Gamestop but I still don't like retailer exclusive stuff. See how easy it is to say something without writing a novel?
So you don't think a game being released at only two places, one of which is from the publisher is a limited release? How do YOU define limited release? If Disney only released it's newest feature film in one or two chains of theaters, that would be a limited release would it not? Same thing here.Trishbot said:Apparently someone has never read a "novel" before. It's okay. They have teachers out there that can help you if you're intimidated by anything longer than a twitter post.Crono1973 said:So, from scanning your novel here, I see that you agree that this is not a full release and is, in fact, a limited release. So we agree.
It seems that we don't agree that retailer exclusive games are a bad thing. I think they are worse than retailer exclusive DLC and you take the "addict approach" and say that "anything is better than not getting the game at all".
Oh and BTW, I love Gamestop but I still don't like retailer exclusive stuff. See how easy it is to say something without writing a novel?
You apparently don't understand what quotations around words mean either when I kept using them for "limited", which I did, which meant that, no, I don't agree with you that it is not a full release.
Also, I never said I LIKED the fact Gamestop has US-exclusive distribution right. Never, ever. I would MUCH prefer it to be widely available at every store on the face of the earth, game-related or not.
I also don't understand your "addict" analogy. For a content-starved system, anything IS better than nothing! A better analogy would be a thirsty man in the desert gets a single glass of water rather than nothing at all. Now, maybe he might prefer beer or fine wine, or maybe he was a Coca-Cola guy. But you can't tell me that if he was offered something to quench his thirst he wouldn't take it, even if that glass of water came only from one distributor.
Do you know how few good JRPGs have come out in the past 10 years? I can count them on one hand. Xenoblade is ONE of them. Reports are even saying Gamestop is the one that offered to shoulder distribution costs so Nintendo would be enticed to sell the game to American citizens in the first place.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter. If you want to avoid the game for this reason, it's nobody's loss but your own. In the big picture, it just seems silly that you wouldn't buy it from Nintendo directly if you're so upset about it, and you'd rather have ZERO experience with one of the best Wii games and JRPGs ever created rather than swallow a little pride, give it a chance, and enjoy it in spite of the manner that it was released.