Yet another pointless piracy question.

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Now a lot of people, myself included have been having a problem dealing with EAs idiotic origin service, and I really wish to play mass effect 3 on my laptop. Now lets suppose hypothetically I were to purchase the game anyway. And lets suppose hypothetically I were to light the game on fire while doing a sort of ritual dance with my friends. And lets suppose hypothetically I were to take a picture of that game, mail it to EA along with picture of my middle finger and go online to see if I can pirate the game without having to install origin (hypothetically I would leave the checking part for last on purpouse).

In this extremely hypothetical situation that will surely never happen in any way, shape or form would you find what I did morally repulsive (I'm mainly asking about the pirating part, not the ritual dance).
 

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You know what you do then?

You buy games on the consoles.

Here in the console nation, we have little to worry about with EA's Origin being complete shit, and games not appearing on Steam.

All we have to worry about, is whether or not we bought in new or not, which even isn't much of a big deal anyways.
 

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Swifty714 said:
You know what you do then?

You buy games on the consoles.

Here in the console nation, we have little to worry about with EA's Origin being complete shit, and games not appearing on Steam.

All we have to worry about, is whether or not we bought in new or not, which even isn't much of a big deal anyways.
Let's not turn this into a console "nation" versus PC "nation" debate. Some people are stuck with PC's for one reason or the other. Telling them "Har har consoles" isn't exactly contributing to a solution. It's a "Then let them eat cake" thing, and we know what happened to Marie Antoinette...
 

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Vegosiux said:
Swifty714 said:
Let's not turn this into a console "nation" versus PC "nation" debate. Some people are stuck with PC's for one reason or the other. Telling them "Har har consoles" isn't exactly contributing to a solution. It's a "Then let them eat cake" thing, and we know what happened to Marie Antoinette...
I wasn't being 100% serious with that comment.

However, a lot of PC gamer's constantly hold Steam over console gamer's heads and act as if they are some kind of supreme gaming race.

It's just nice to hear that sometimes, PC gamers are having a bit of trouble.
 

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Swifty714 said:
It's just nice to hear that sometimes, PC gamers are having a bit of trouble.
Now that's a slightly mean thing to say. I'd rather gamers wouldn't have trouble at all.
 
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Vegosiux said:
It's a "Then let them eat cake" thing, and we know what happened to Marie Antoinette...
I wanted to make a series of "head" puns........But then I decided to spare you all. :p

Anyway, OP, if I were you I'd keep the actual disk and boxed copy AND receipt so if EA tries to bust you for piracy, you can prove you actually OWN the game.

Thank goodness I didn't get ME2 on the PC...Yeah sure, I lose the save files from the first game (I have ME2 on PS3), but at least the graphics look better than on my laptop and I don't get drop kicked by origin. And honestly, they covered all the really important choices in the cartoon at the start of ME2 anyway.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Swifty714 said:
You know what you do then?

You buy games on the consoles.
Yeah, but then EA gets money. Which is bad.
In the situation The OP described, EA had already gotten money, so it doesn't matter by this point.
 

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Swifty714 said:
Vegosiux said:
Swifty714 said:
Let's not turn this into a console "nation" versus PC "nation" debate. Some people are stuck with PC's for one reason or the other. Telling them "Har har consoles" isn't exactly contributing to a solution. It's a "Then let them eat cake" thing, and we know what happened to Marie Antoinette...
I wasn't being 100% serious with that comment.

However, a lot of PC gamer's constantly hold Steam over console gamer's heads and act as if they are some kind of supreme gaming race.

It's just nice to hear that sometimes, PC gamers are having a bit of trouble.
And on both sides, it's typically less the fault of the platform and more the fault of the trained monkeys - I mean publishers - who saddle games with idiotic "solutions" to problems the average user did not cause and does not care about.

Take this situation, for instance: EA is attempting to wrest control of the market away from Steam, and in doing so is breaking up our games libraries, forcing the installation of more pointless, ethically questionable storefronts, and keeping their precious games away from the horrible specter of Steam sales. (Price control, in other words. They can keep selling it at $60 as long as they want) They are seeking a material advantage, and it's coming out of our pockets, our ease of use, and our satisfaction.

Likewise with Ubisoft's DRM - it's a straightforward case of "We don't want people pirating it, so we'll be blanketing it with rules and policies that may (and probably will) impact your ability to play it at times. Oh, and good luck trying to resell it - buy our games and you're out the full chalupa. No refunds." (Six months later: Waaaa, people pirated our games anyway, so our horrible solutions had no effect whatsoever!)

And finally, we have Project $10 and similar on consoles. Buy a game new? No problem - just don't expect to get nearly as much in trade at GameStop as you used to. Buy a game used? Don't expect more than $10 off the retail price, which you'll be paying back anyway through the multiplayer pass, making it a slightly-grubby $60 purchase anyway. Want to transfer your license to a new console? Maybe they'll let you, maybe not. You might have to shell more money out of your pockets to keep playing your games on new systems! Oh, and there's a chance your online codes won't even work. Yeah... sorry 'bout that. Buy another one.


In short: Everyone's in on the same game, and the name of that game is "milk the customer." They will get as close as possible to making you revolt, no matter what platform you're on, as long as they can get more money in the end. And I hate to say this, but the only entity who's actually providing value along with their jabs is, in fact, Steam. Know this and weep.
 

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Swifty714 said:
ResonanceSD said:
Swifty714 said:
You know what you do then?

You buy games on the consoles.
Yeah, but then EA gets money. Which is bad.
In the situation The OP described, EA had already gotten money, so it doesn't matter by this point.
I'm boycotting EA products, they don't get any money from me and I'm not playing games with their badges on them. =D If that means skipping ME3, then so be it.
 

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I do wonder if every time one of these comes out I should just boycott it and buy another copy of Witcher 2.
 

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A better way to put this hypothetical situation would be: If one were to purchase and origin locked game, keep proof of purchase (receipt), and then for one reason or another be unable to play said game (broken/lost disc, hacked/lost origin account etc.), would it be morally justifiable to pirate said game, which one has previously purchased and has proof of said purchase, in order to play a game which one has already purchased?

Just thought I would formulate it in a less douchey fashion, no offense op.

Side note: Wouldn't it be logical to forbid threads of this nature, where someone almost always gets banned due to their comment coming off as in support of piracy, even though it isn't. Not talking about banning users who start these threads, just deleting the threads themselves.
I ask this here, since I personally don't feel it's a question which needs an entire thread dedicated to. Feel free to ignore this part if you like.

Also just in case SOPA gets passed, I'm gonna post the following before I see someone else do it: I used to pirate games, until I took a SOPA to the knee. (please dont ban me for that, not meant as support of piracy).
 

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Get like 100+ or so people to do that whole burning thing and post it on YT. I bet somebody at EA will notice, hell they might be the ones that'll call for the video to get taken down.