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Meriatressia said:
That would not happen if the children were raised properly.
If they did that, they'd be insane.
If they were insane, they'd need commiting to a mental hospital immedately. Because something would be seriously wrong with them.
Incest is always wrong and is disgusting.
Could you cite some evidence for that? And please don't quote the Westermarck effect. Just because we evolved to find something distasteful doesn't mean it's morally wrong. The inbreeding thing doesn't hold much water either, provided one has access to contraception. Besides, using inbreeding as a justification for opposing incest on moral grounds falls apart in the case of relationships between same-sex siblings. And please don't conflate parental incest with sibling incest. Also keep in mind that I don't think incest can be okay unless the two participants are of roughly the same age and the same mental capacity; I don't want to come across as an apologist for sexual abuse.

By the way, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth or dismiss your argument before you give it, I just want to avoid arguing over the same points that always come up in these threads.

OT: If it were my kids... well, I can't really say how I would react, not being a parent myself, but I can try to guess. I wouldn't have any moral problem with it, even if I found it disgusting. Like other posters have said, I would worry about the effect it could have on their relationship as brother and sister. I would want to talk about it with them, make sure that they knew what they were getting into. I would only allow it to continue if I could be very, very sure that it wouldn't cause any emotional or psychological damage for them down the line. In fact, I would support them 100%.

If they're both adults, though, absolutely no problem whatsoever. I figure they'll have lived long enough to make an informed decision on their own by then.

Also, Kudos @chinangel for addressing this topic. It's one that really needs to be discussed more.

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Sure... why not. Let's just start saying everything is okay and be done with it. Let's just throw our arms in the air in regards to... EVERYTHING. Because everything is okay. Nothing can be wrong. Feelings might get HURT!
I'm pretty sure more feelings get hurt by suggesting that incest can be okay than the other way around. You don't have to blame political correctness for everything you disagree with.
 

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I don't see the fuss over it, even if they were a heterosexual couple. As long as they're consenting and no pressure or coercion is involved, people should be allowed to love who they want to love. It's not my place to judge what you do in the bedroom and who you are attached to so long as no one is being hurt in the process.
 

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Jusey1 said:
I did not wish to bother with your whole post. Just that one part caught my eyes and I replied to it only.
That seems odd since my entire post is relevant to what you said and directly addresses the point you brought up. But okay.
 

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Well for what it's worth, I know a lesbian couple, who are sisters and are respected in their community (one is a middle school teacher) and are considered 'normal' by everyone who knows them. (I should probably point out that they are not 'out' but given the way they act with each other in public at least a few other people have to know.)
OT--no clue.
 

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I would start projectile vomiting and wonder where I went wrong as parent. I'd be cool with them being gay, be gay with others. Incest is just so... gross, don't know why Japan loves it so much in their hentai (xenophobia maybe).

Cannot explain my disgust, it's just involuntary, like watching the Human Centipede, or two men go at it (they can be gay, just in another room guys).
 

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That relationship would probably screw more things than just the two of them. At that age I wouldn't take anyone's "love" very seriously, Attraction? Sure, but I'd try and get to the bottom of it. Letting them have it would most likely be a high-risk low-reward situation.

Or something else... the hell could I know? I don't have kids. I can't really pretend to know the mindset of a teenager's parent.
 

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"But in the Bible..." - Shut up former Catholic self. No one is asking you anything so pipe down.


On a Serious Note: I seriously did not know that, after reading the many post in this thread, a lot of you would respond;

"Yeah sure I see nothing wrong with it."

Has others who replied similar to that, thought about it in the view point of the parents? If it were my children (still questioning if i even want kids or not), I'd think of myself as a failed parent. I don't mind if they were gay with other people but not their sibling. Even hetro-relationships, have it with others not your younger brother or sister. Hear many points made here and still trying hard to process it and understand it but until then, I'll have to say I wouldn't allow it.
 

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I would have very long discussions with my partner about it, that much can be guaranteed.

If it ultimately gets our blessing or not is questionable. Personally I'm dead-set against incestual relationships so it would disgust me to no end. The homosexuality I would be perfectly fine with but siblings in the house? Ech...

It would take a lot of convincing from everyone in the house, partner and all the children in the house to get me to accept it. I hope I never have to explain to my kids that feelings like that are appropriate outside of the family.
 

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TristanBelmont said:
Dragonlayer said:
Force them to be the main characters in my disgusting new incest manga.
So, to discourage them from doing anything, write weird fanfiction about your kids. I can get behind this.
It's how I deal with most of life's problems: write fan-fiction with as much filthy erotica as possible. Then cry myself to sleep.
 

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Dragonlayer said:
TristanBelmont said:
Dragonlayer said:
Force them to be the main characters in my disgusting new incest manga.
So, to discourage them from doing anything, write weird fanfiction about your kids. I can get behind this.
It's how I deal with most of life's problems: write fan-fiction with as much filthy erotica as possible. Then cry myself to sleep.
that seems like the problem-solving skill of most writers actually.
 

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chinangel said:
Dragonlayer said:
TristanBelmont said:
Dragonlayer said:
Force them to be the main characters in my disgusting new incest manga.
So, to discourage them from doing anything, write weird fanfiction about your kids. I can get behind this.
It's how I deal with most of life's problems: write fan-fiction with as much filthy erotica as possible. Then cry myself to sleep.
that seems like the problem-solving skill of most writers actually.
Why wouldn't it be? After all, it requires absolutely no effort whatsoever: load up a Word document, splurge your abominable fantasies all over the page and then upload it to that bastion of quality control, the internet and watch the praise flow.
 

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Considering that I find it rather repulsive, and that it's illegal in my country with rather hefty penalties, socially taboo and probably unhealthy, I'd strongly advise them against it and probably work towards setting them up in therapy. It would suck, it really would, but yeah. I'd also assume that I'd done something wrong.

But whatever, I'm probably not ever having kids. And chances of homosexual incest would be so slim as to be zero if I was.
 

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I'd have to put my foot down and make sure it didn't go any further. Not because of moral issues concerning incest, but because of the devastating effect it would have on the family when things inevitably go sour (they're teenagers, it's not going to last).

While I can't say I'd be comfortable dealing with it myself, I find it hard to argue against incest between two consenting adults on moral grounds. However, 14-16 year olds are not adults, their hormones are raging, and they don't know what they want. Hell, I had all sorts of inappropriate crushes at that age (nothing incestuous, but teachers who were old enough to be my parents, that sort of thing). If you'd asked me at the time, I would have said I wanted to sleep with them and have a relationship and wouldn't have seen anything wrong with it. Nowadays, I feel very differently.

Fortunately though, this isn't a situation I'll ever find myself in.
 

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If they were male and female, I'd still support them. There are ways around the ethical problem it can bring (for example, adoption). What I guess I would do is have several good, long, serious talks with both of them, get their view points, understand them and let them know just what they are doing. I have no moral problem with incest, however, as long as all are willing and it's fully consented.

So yeah, I'd support them so long as they fully know what they're doing and both are committed to it. If they were brother and sister, then I'd have a more stern conversation with them and guide them onto a path that is absent problem while not condemning them.
 

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Interesting coincidence, I just read a discussion regarding the law on this issue in Sweden. It is specifically meant to adress the inbreeding part, although perhaps a bit outdated. Half-siblings are allowed to sleep with each other and get children above the age of 15, and the law only concerns heterosexual situations. A couple of the same gender would be legal.

On a personal note my biggest concern would be social stigma. Society is not nice towards "undesirables", but since the example referred to a same sex couple they would be protected by anti discrimination laws. They probably already know about how society views it. I would tell them to wait until after they are adults and have moved out, as there is a significant risk that as a parent I would lose custody, they would get split up and get shuffled around foster homes with barely any transparancy. Putting the children at risk for suicide with no proper support.
If there is any signs of the relationship being unequal or coercion, the tune would be very different. I am a very overprotective person, especially in the case of hypothetical children.

The reason to why I am open minded on the subject? If you try to look upon the subject in a unbiased manner then you discover that the two main problems are genetics and potential unequal power balance between the two. Then we have the fact that I have already heard the "You are selfish and ruin the family!", "What will people think of US?!", "You are disgusting and should be killed", "You are just confused and sick in the head, we should therefore outlaw any form of support!". All to often... Being transgendered really makes you the worst kind of person in a lot of "normal" people's minds already.
I have promised myself to never sink to the level of "normal people", and as long as they do not hurt anyone and are happy I will simply not allow the lives of my children to be destroyed by society. No matter what kind of witch hunt they organize.
 

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My main problem is their age. Teenagers often don't understand the consequences of their actions. You can explain it to them but the won't really comprehend it till it actually happens (I'm 26 but I can pretty clearly remember how stupid I was as a teenager). And incestuous relationships are a minefield for bad consequences. If they're adults, fine, they can do what they want. But at that age I'm not on board. I wouldn't bring down the wrath of the Gods upon them but I would try to calmly but sternly explain why it's a bad idea.
 

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I would have no problem with it, in fact, I'd be happy for them. Incest is all good and well as long as it's consensual.
 

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BathorysGraveland2 said:
If they were male and female, I'd still support them. There are ways around the ethical problem it can bring (for example, adoption).
There is absolutely no way an incestuous couple would be allowed to adopt. Non-incestuous homosexual couples still aren't allowed in a lot of places. Hell, plenty of heterosexual couples (again, non-incestuous) have trouble getting permission.
 

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Jeez. Of all the weird hypotheticals posted around here, this is the latest.

Um. Let's just say I'd certainly have a few questions to ask; at the very least I'd be worried about the sibling power dynamics involved.
 

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It's still wrong. I honestly don't see why it would happen though, humans tend to be incapable of sexual attraction towards those which we've known before the age of 8, a psychological mechanism that exists for just this reason.
I dunno. I always thought it was the damage done by inbreeding that made it wrong. If they cannot inbreed, then what's wrong with it?