You know what pisses me off? Nostalga worship....(rant-tasic)
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Can't agree with you about the music, I know better than that. Of course this all depends on what kind of music you like. If you only like 80's synth pop or 90's grunge rock, then no you probably won't like most of the new music because you are limiting yourself on what you listen to. I guarantee you though that if you look hard enough, you will find some music from today that you do like. I personally think that music stays at an even pace, doesn't go downhill or uphill. The only thing that changes is what is the most popular with younger audiences at that time.Kukulski said:
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal said it best, in my opinion: "Pop music peaked right when I was most emotionally vulnerable to trite love songs."
Expanded, I think this sums up why people gravitate to the media of their middle youth. For me, it was the 90s. Nostalgia is nice; it's a reflection of comfort. Many kids -- not all, but a lot -- grew up in a reasonably happy environment. What is the music you heard on the radio while you were skipping around in the park? What are the movies you watched with your friends, young and carefree? What was going on at the same time as you were innocent and happy, with none of the burdens and cynical sniping of the Real World?
Yep. 90s music. Or whatever decade you come from. Just about everyone has rose-tinted glasses; you tend to forget the bad crap that happens in life after a certain while, and yo8u remember mostly the good stuff. After so many years, your childhood probably seems like a golden ideal, and as such, so will everything in it. Your first non-kiddie video games, which were soooo amazing but in the end probably aren't actually any better than some of the modern games. Music you laughed to and angsted to as a teenager, which just keeps being redone in different styles and slightly different lyrics, but you swear it was better back then.
"The fabric of the universe just happened to unravel when they grew up." Yeah, it did. They got bitter and cynical and stopped enjoying things they liked as a kid. They Grew Up, with capital letters, and thus now they're nostalgia seekers looking to return to the happy moments of their youth.
...At least, that's how I see it.
Expanded, I think this sums up why people gravitate to the media of their middle youth. For me, it was the 90s. Nostalgia is nice; it's a reflection of comfort. Many kids -- not all, but a lot -- grew up in a reasonably happy environment. What is the music you heard on the radio while you were skipping around in the park? What are the movies you watched with your friends, young and carefree? What was going on at the same time as you were innocent and happy, with none of the burdens and cynical sniping of the Real World?
Yep. 90s music. Or whatever decade you come from. Just about everyone has rose-tinted glasses; you tend to forget the bad crap that happens in life after a certain while, and yo8u remember mostly the good stuff. After so many years, your childhood probably seems like a golden ideal, and as such, so will everything in it. Your first non-kiddie video games, which were soooo amazing but in the end probably aren't actually any better than some of the modern games. Music you laughed to and angsted to as a teenager, which just keeps being redone in different styles and slightly different lyrics, but you swear it was better back then.
"The fabric of the universe just happened to unravel when they grew up." Yeah, it did. They got bitter and cynical and stopped enjoying things they liked as a kid. They Grew Up, with capital letters, and thus now they're nostalgia seekers looking to return to the happy moments of their youth.
...At least, that's how I see it.
oh god music.....there is NO logic when it comes to thatdlsevern said:
speaking of wich I can apreciate (more or less) all kinds
like just today I got Nicki Minaj's album "Pink Friday" (a guilty pleasure)
and now that its safley on my ipod, I'm going to hide it somwhere where NO ONE will ever find it
There's this Swedish show called Nittileaks that reminisced about the nineties and what happened then in Sweden. I grew up in the nineties, and that show made me realize how much I don't want them back.
You know what's as bad as people who won't take nostalga goggles off? People who think everything that isn't new isn't worth a damn.
But yeah I do love it when people say that x from the from time period Y was the best, just bring up something that was rubbish and ask if they remeber it.
But yeah I do love it when people say that x from the from time period Y was the best, just bring up something that was rubbish and ask if they remeber it.
I am equally annoyed by people who jump on every moderately decent movie as if it's the current best movie ever made... Avatar, Inception blah blah triffle. They are mostly pretty decent by modern standards, but I hold 80's movies in much higher regard, from an artistic and not made-by-a-computer standpoint.
I admit that I prefer a lot of things from my youth, movies especially. I watched Bladerunner the other day, and damn that's an awesome film, and it struck me that my top 5 movies are all pretty old. Aliens, Pumpkinhead, Bladerunner, Robocop, Predator. I've watched those movies dozens of times, and will watch them again. IMO Ridley Scott is an incomparable genius.
The last movie that I really did like was Gran Torino, I thought that was great, Clint Eastwood did an excellent job on that and he puts people half his age to shame. I enjoyed True Grit as well, and Smokin Aces, Death Proof. I'm not totally down on modern movies, but usually they need something old-school - an old actor, a traditional plot, old filming techniques.
I'm getting that way with TV as well, been re-watching LOST, because there just isn't enough on TV, no matter how many channels we have. For games, well ResidentEvil4 is my all time fave game, so I'm spoilt for remakes, HD versions, directors cuts... I still prefer the trusty old GameCube version though - RE4 doesn't need anything added to it.
I admit that I prefer a lot of things from my youth, movies especially. I watched Bladerunner the other day, and damn that's an awesome film, and it struck me that my top 5 movies are all pretty old. Aliens, Pumpkinhead, Bladerunner, Robocop, Predator. I've watched those movies dozens of times, and will watch them again. IMO Ridley Scott is an incomparable genius.
The last movie that I really did like was Gran Torino, I thought that was great, Clint Eastwood did an excellent job on that and he puts people half his age to shame. I enjoyed True Grit as well, and Smokin Aces, Death Proof. I'm not totally down on modern movies, but usually they need something old-school - an old actor, a traditional plot, old filming techniques.
I'm getting that way with TV as well, been re-watching LOST, because there just isn't enough on TV, no matter how many channels we have. For games, well ResidentEvil4 is my all time fave game, so I'm spoilt for remakes, HD versions, directors cuts... I still prefer the trusty old GameCube version though - RE4 doesn't need anything added to it.
Vault101, I've got to ask, are you dyslexic or something? Because your profile says you're from Australia and you work in an office, but every post I see from you reads like a crime against the English language. If you're dyslexic (or something) no matter, but I have this tick that starts every time I read one of your posts, which is a shame because you generally write interesting posts - once I've deciphered them.
Sorry if I'm being rude, but I don't have it in me to phrase it more delicately right now. Aaaah, the tick is gone now. Good to get that off my chest.
OT: I like retro music more myself - especially 80s rock - so in that way I'm definitely nostalgic. Games however not so much. There were some awesome games in the 90s, but I'm quite enjoying most of the games I got past the 2005 mark, thank you.
But there will be hipster elitists in all things. Kinda like I was in the beginning of the post regarding your writing, Vault. So you're certainly free to ignore me about it, just like I ignore other elitists that annoy me =)
Sorry if I'm being rude, but I don't have it in me to phrase it more delicately right now. Aaaah, the tick is gone now. Good to get that off my chest.
OT: I like retro music more myself - especially 80s rock - so in that way I'm definitely nostalgic. Games however not so much. There were some awesome games in the 90s, but I'm quite enjoying most of the games I got past the 2005 mark, thank you.
But there will be hipster elitists in all things. Kinda like I was in the beginning of the post regarding your writing, Vault. So you're certainly free to ignore me about it, just like I ignore other elitists that annoy me =)
On your statement about how rock is dead. My answer would be what about Queens of the Stone Age, The Mars Volta, Eagles of Death Metal, The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, or The Black Crowes(an old band, but they recently came out with a great new album) to name a few. Rock is not dead and never will be, it just isn't the mainstream. I'm actually glad it isn't, I think rock is better when it is not in the limelight. When it is, you get crap like Nickleback or Buckcherry.Kukulski said:
I'm heartbroken, stranger on the internet. Be careful so you don't step on the shards of my broken soul on your way out.dlsevern said:
People have their rights to like something because they like it or don't. I hate Star Wars movies and I can't stand the tripe of Micheal Bay's movies. I like classic kung fu and samurai movies. I also like cheesy 80 - 90's action flicks like anything Arnold or Van Damme been in. I detest modern mainstream music. I grew up on 70's-90's Funk RnB and Soul. I liked the sound of Chiptune in the games I played. I like one player games or at lease local co-op and or versus. Over the whole multiplayer, teamwork, achievement whoring kinda thing in games today.
