I agree with you that Endless Waltz was really good (even if I was really confused about how the Gundam redesigns were supposed to make sense the first time I saw it, before I knew that that was just sort of a tradition among Gundam designers). The villain's conversation with Releena about "the three beats of War, Peace, and Revolution" was particularly memorable.Mr.Petey said:Millenium Actress. I usually get awkward with romance sagas but this one is more than that, with a nice mix of comedy and heart. Heck it got me watery eyed by the end of it!
That and Gundam Wing Endless Waltz was very well put together, putting a tangible storyline to the end of the series
It sets up an interesting setting and tackles some interesting concepts , but the anime version is just too neutered to get the job done. I was very intrigued up until about episode 10 - 12, but its shortcomings just became more and more apparent. Character motives and events pretty much come out of the blue regularly (which they don't as much in the VN, I'm told, being properly set up there).The Zango said:...
I loved trying to figure out the mystery, the world that existed around them and the relationship between Beato and Battler, but as you said, it kind of goes spare towards to end. Plus it just has stuff happening that comes totally out of the blue, such as the confrontation between Ange and the random woman. As you said though, if they ever animate the second part, which is unlikely due to poor sales, it would actually be worth buying, but until then its interesting, but not particularly satisfying.
I hear the Umineko VN is far superior. Of course, that's been a consistent truth for every single VN->anime adaptation ever as far as I know, so nothing new. A certain anime about a "Moon Princess" comes to mind.Imperator_DK said:It sets up an interesting setting and tackles some interesting concepts , but the anime version is just too neutered to get the job done. I was very intrigued up until about episode 10 - 12, but its shortcomings just became more and more apparent. Character motives and events pretty much come out of the blue regularly (which they don't as much in the VN, I'm told, being properly set up there).The Zango said:...
I loved trying to figure out the mystery, the world that existed around them and the relationship between Beato and Battler, but as you said, it kind of goes spare towards to end. Plus it just has stuff happening that comes totally out of the blue, such as the confrontation between Ange and the random woman. As you said though, if they ever animate the second part, which is unlikely due to poor sales, it would actually be worth buying, but until then its interesting, but not particularly satisfying.
I really wanted to like it (being a huge fan of Higurashi and psychological horror mystery in general), but this adaptation of the - admittedly very complex - story was just too manhandled to be satisfactory. And more than Higurashi - so very much more - this is a storyline that hinge on an overall solution to be enjoyable, which will likely never come (out on anime; the games are apparently still progression). Where the first season of Higurashi could be enjoyed separately, Umineko just puts so much weight into the mystery part that it's debilitating for it to leave it utterly unsolved. And the ending of pointedly not solving the mystery, but rather completely grasping for straws, "defeating" Beatrice is just bullshit of the highest calibre.
They always lose some detail, but I don't think they always lose quality. Higurashi managed to remain thoroughly enjoyable in anime form in and of its own (I've yet to play the VNs, having little expirience with the medium beyond a few reviewed on this site). Comprising is an art in itself and where Higurashi succeeded (as far as I can tell), Umineko failed miserably.omegawyrm said:...
I hear the Umineko VN is far superior. Of course, that's been a consistent truth for every single VN->anime adaptation ever as far as I know, so nothing new. A certain anime about a "Moon Princess" comes to mind.
You're certainly not wrong that Higurashi held together a lot more than Umineko did, and while I did enjoy the Umineko anime, both Umineko and Higurashi have a quality gap in their anime adaptations. Umineko's was just a lot larger...Imperator_DK said:They always lose some detail, but I don't think they always lose quality. Higurashi managed to remain thoroughly enjoyable in anime form in and of its own (I've yet to play the VNs, having little expirience with the medium beyond a few reviewed on this site). Comprising is an art in itself and where Higurashi succeeded (as far as I can tell), Umineko failed miserably.omegawyrm said:...
I hear the Umineko VN is far superior. Of course, that's been a consistent truth for every single VN->anime adaptation ever as far as I know, so nothing new. A certain anime about a "Moon Princess" comes to mind.
I've just begun watching the Fate/Stay Night anime, it'll be interesting to see how it holds up on its own. I plan to use it as a trailer of sorts to whether I should get into the VN's of that extensive universe. I've seen a glowing review and am intrigued, but a game (and universe) that vast takes some commitment.
I had heard that Fate/stay Night suffered some in its adaption, especially regarding characterization of it's main character (who so far seems like a doormat extraordinaire), less-than-stellar animation (which doesn't bother me though) and less exciting fights (which seem odd considering that the VN should have stationary CG's with very limited animation).omegawyrm said:...
You're certainly not wrong that Higurashi held together a lot more than Umineko did, and while I did enjoy the Umineko anime, both Umineko and Higurashi have a quality gap in their anime adaptations. Umineko's was just a lot larger...
As far as the F/SN anime goes, I feel a little bit more confident speaking on it, because unlike Umineko and Higurashi, the original has been entirely translated. I can say the F/SN anime was good. It made me want to play the game to see what I missed. But when I played the game it really makes the anime adaptation seem pathetic by comparison. It's honestly the best, most encompassing, and complete novel I have ever read, and the anime only contains a bare shade of that.