the short version is if you like a game in a franchise like command and conquer but it got a shitty sequel this is the place for you to vent your frustrations ( please don't kill me I'm new to the site)
your favorite game that got destroyed by crappy sequels?
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Wing Commander
Yeah I'm going to have to say Ultima. The most respected and venerated CRPG series of all time, the loins from which so many of today's classic RPG's sprung, way ahead of their time technically and thematically...turned into dopey arcade adventures riddled with so many crippling bugs they made Battlecruiser 3000 AD look like the very model of stability.
Who was to blame again? I can't remember.
Oh right, EA.
Imagine that.
Ultima
Wing Commander
Yeah I'm going to have to say Ultima. The most respected and venerated CRPG series of all time, the loins from which so many of today's classic RPG's sprung, way ahead of their time technically and thematically...turned into dopey arcade adventures riddled with so many crippling bugs they made Battlecruiser 3000 AD look like the very model of stability.
Who was to blame again? I can't remember.
Oh right, EA.
Imagine that.
Crash Bandicoot. Hands down. The 1st one was the first game I owned, the second improved, and the third was a classic. Then Sony kicked out Naughty Dog and it all went to hell.
The first game sucked, though, but nostalgia.
The first game sucked, though, but nostalgia.
Correct.Mackheath said:
I admittedly haven't ever played the original Rayman, but Rayman 2 was easily the best game I had ever played for a really big chunk of my life. Rayman 3 was pretty good as well.
Then the Rabbids came.
WHY!?
Silent Hill.
I'm going to disagree with Yahtzee on this aswell so i'll await being mobbed by his fans afterwards.
I loved the first Silent Hill. It was new in the survival horror genre, it was eerie and it had atmoshpere. It had a decent plot and good characters and decisions you made affected the outcome.
Good gameplay, graphics were okay but it felt right.
I just couldn't get the same feel from any of the others. They just seemed to be trying too hard to spooky and failing in the process.
I'm going to disagree with Yahtzee on this aswell so i'll await being mobbed by his fans afterwards.
I loved the first Silent Hill. It was new in the survival horror genre, it was eerie and it had atmoshpere. It had a decent plot and good characters and decisions you made affected the outcome.
Good gameplay, graphics were okay but it felt right.
I just couldn't get the same feel from any of the others. They just seemed to be trying too hard to spooky and failing in the process.
I'd like to know why we've come...what...almost 20 years since X-Com, and there still hasn't really been any games with fully realized destructible terrain aside from Red Faction Guerrilla.HerbertTheHamster said:
I'm going to choose Fallbout-after-Tactics (tactics was my gateway drug), Red Alert after Yuri's Revenge and Deus Ex: Invisible war. The new Fallout lacks the egde and has nuclear boatloads of identical cave/exploded office/Vault crawling, Red Alert 3 is just too silly and DX: IW is just disappointing.
Command & Conquer got ruined when 4 came about, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, Call of Duty, Resident Evil, Tony hawk's etc.
Most mentioned above were ruined later on in their lives primarily because of their latest and previous sequals.
Most mentioned above were ruined later on in their lives primarily because of their latest and previous sequals.
Tomb Raider. The first game was an absolute classic, and the sequel almost as good. I did feel that over the next couple of games they got too hard and were too reliant on sequences where you would die instantly if you weren't pixel perfect in your moves at the expense of the exploration that made the first game in particular great.
They also got terribly actiony and lost direction. Needless to say I'm dreading the reboot.
They also got terribly actiony and lost direction. Needless to say I'm dreading the reboot.
Jack disagrees with this opinion, having love for all the core games equally. True, the originals were great, but it can be regarded as a bold move forward to turn it into a 3D world that is entertaining, very action-filled, and amusing. And if the complaint about bugs comes in, they were all buggy as hell, so I'd be indifferent about that. I liked 'em, other people liked 'em. Let's leave it at that.Darknacht said:
Now ummm...I think for my entry, I'll use Oddworld. Everybody remember Oddworld, featuring our heroic slave-Muddokin, Abe? Those first two games were great fun, and there was promise of a quintology like...years ago. Then...whoops! They dropped the ball and signed up exclusively for Microsoft and released a lukewarm game and a not-really-liked game. Years later, they say "Oh, we're getting back in the game!" and...whoops again! Still on Microsoft and not multi-system like they should. Haven't heard anything since that report, so I guess they're dead again.
Amen to that brother.Shadow-Phoenix said:
I don't begrudge the studio for wanting to try something new, but if they were going to completely change the gameplay they shouldn't have done so with the core storyline. Make a Generals style offshoot to try out your Dawn of War knock offs EA, seriously!
Beyond that, I'm going to have to say that the whole Nintendo expereince is weighing heavy on me these days. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the games are bad or that they should "go away" in any form. I'm just not interested in bonking Goombas, finding the Boomerang, or looking for my Morphball upgrade again. Ever. All the games in these core Ninty franchises are awesome. I loved them all. But I see new versions being made and I just cannot get excited to play them. And I sure can't justify things like a 3DS just for the privledge of going through the same old motions once again. Not even at the new low price.
And let me say this one more time in hopes that the guy who's quoting this post to call me out as a Ninty hater might see it and take pause, I am not saying the games are bad or that no one should like them or that they need to change from your beloved childhood memories in any way, shape, or form. It's just a personal thing with me that I can't see playing a new Zelda, or Mario, or Metroid game.
I'll only mention Tomb Raider else I'll be here all day.
From TR1 - 5 there was progression. The mechanics evolved and changed and the games generally got harder. When I borrowed and finished Angel of Darkness it put me off ever following the series again and I've not played a game in the series developed any later than that, save for Anniversary.
The only thing I remember of AoD now, because it stuck out so much that it overshadowed the rest of the game, is that it was painfully easy. After the fight that Chronicles had put up it felt as if I was being given a red carpet all the way to the end.
Ask me about this series and I'll tell you it only ever had 5 games.
From TR1 - 5 there was progression. The mechanics evolved and changed and the games generally got harder. When I borrowed and finished Angel of Darkness it put me off ever following the series again and I've not played a game in the series developed any later than that, save for Anniversary.
The only thing I remember of AoD now, because it stuck out so much that it overshadowed the rest of the game, is that it was painfully easy. After the fight that Chronicles had put up it felt as if I was being given a red carpet all the way to the end.
Ask me about this series and I'll tell you it only ever had 5 games.
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