Your opinion on Video Game Nudity

[Sporky111]

First off, this is not a sexual desires discussion. This is a serious and mature discussion, anything really immature will get you reported by me; anybody else that sees it, please report it too. What is your opinion on putting nudity of any kind in video games (not just sexual nudity, remember).
Also, I have opted not to put in a poll because this subject is not black and white and I wouldn't be able to touch on all the reasons for peoples opinions.

As a form of entertainment, video games are subject to the same regulations as other mainstream entertainment (TV, cinema, etc). As long as they have a disclaimer that comes up with all the unskippable credits it would be no different than turning on CSI with it's "coarse language, violence, nudity, and sexual themes".

As an art form, games have the same rights to nudity as any other art form as long as it is done tastefully. In Fable 1, for example, Lionhead should have included a choice to have your hero actually naked rather than the stupid Union Jack underwear. That censoring (face it, that's what it was) took away from the experience. You were challenged to do a mission naked, yet you showed up in underwear. In real life you would have been disqualified for it. Technically, as an M rated game not for sale to children, they could have done it.

Even sex in a game can be acceptable. God of War 1 and 2 used it as a minigame to good effect, without selling out with it. Fable 2 used it as a means of gaining children in a realistic way (no storks or cabbage leaves). Both of these games managed to convey the sexual action in a non-filthy way.

However, gratuitous nudity and sexual content in a game is a pointless waste of money that could be used to improve the game in ways that advance the industry. It is a disgusting practice, and anybody who plays a game for the sex appeal is both wasting their money and wasting themselves.

 

[Cortheya]

I believe that sometimes it is appropriate such as in mass effect it had relation to what was going on in the story, rather than thrown in there just to get people to buy it. (though it is perfectly possible that that was the very reason they even included it, however)

 

[Johnnyallstar]

I think it's contextual. If there's plausible reason for it, then sure, but if you're just throwing it in there to be M rated, or "controversial" then no.

 

[Not Good]

I say look at the lucrative Japan video game porn business.

 

[thedo12]

However, gratuitous nudity and sexual content in a game is a pointless waste of money that could be used to improve the game in ways that advance the industry. It is a disgusting practice, and anybody who plays a game for the sex appeal is both wasting their money and wasting themselves.

what gives you the right to tell people that there "wasteing themselves" for playing a game for gratuatous sex and violence?



people enjoy, sex (theres a reason porn is the most succesful internet industry) and people enjoy violence, or at least watching it. If people enjoy these things then how is it in any sense wasteing there money and themselves?


EDIT:


my opinion is that if someone wants to make a game about revealing women in awkward positions . then they have every right to do so, if you dont like it then don,t buy the game.

 

[thefrizzlefry]

I really don't care. You could put Nazi Furry Porn in your game for all I care. I don't have to buy it, and someone else probably will.

 

[rekabdarb]

You know, if the story leads down the path, and its well acceptable... then yeah sure throw it in there.

I read the Berserk manga, and there is tons of nudity in there, not a lot recently, but i'm not upset or anything... although i think Griffith's storyline is retarded. The creator of Berserk puts nudity in it, but at appropriate times ie: taking a bath. or when a character *attempts* to get raped. (which happens quite happen) i think i lost sight of the conflict... whats going on again =D

 

[Trivun]

First off, this is not a sexual desires discussion. This is a serious and mature discussion, anything really immature will get you reported by me; anybody else that sees it, please report it too.

Kudos for being careful, you get many internets . We've had so many problems over the last few days with stupid comments that I'm glad someone has the sense to warn people of the repercussions for not being serious on a serious thread. Well done.

As for the actual topic, I personally don't have a problem with nudity in games. Obviously we should stop short of full blown sex in games, unless the game is specifically based around sex (e.g. hentai and sex games on the internet, or Japanese erotic games). Erotica in games is sometimes a specific part of the game, as I say, in some Japanese 'eroge' games sex is the main purpose of the game. However, in non-sexual games then nudity still isn't a big problem. The problem is the access that people have to it.

GTA has come under a lot of fire for the infamous 'Hot Coffee' mod in San Andreas, which apparently was merely unlocked and was a part of the game itself, although Rockstar claim it is nothing to do with them, but rather the work of an ambitious modder. It has also, more recently, been attacked by Jack Thompson and others for the gratuitous amount of sex in GTA4. The main concern is that children will see this content. The thing is, these games are rated 18 (in the UK), or M for Mature. They aren't meant to be seen by kids, and kids seeing them are in the wrong anyway for playing the game in the first place. Mass Effect barely showed a person's bum for about a second, and the media were up in arms for such 'disgraceful' content. That is the main thing that prevents nudity from being seen in games. Only mods and online games can possibly be used to create a gaming environment where nudity is acceptable.

Nudity, though, is a natural part of life and everyone is (hopefully) familiar with the human body itself. Therefore showing nudity in games, as long as it's tasteful, shouldn't be a problem. The taboos that society place on nudity mean that we can't even show a bum for a second in a (very long) game, yet we can take children, even toddlers, to nudist colonies where they see much more graphic nudity, and where they themselves are seen naked. How does this make any sense, is the question I pose here.

 

[Beffudled Sheep]

I personally do not see why people wish games to be burned and shot into the sun for having nudity.

I myself don't care if their is nudity in a game or not, as long as it doesn't somehow alter the game in some horrible way I couldn't care less.

I really wish that people would stop complaining about nudity in video games though.

I just wish that people (mainly parents) would get some common sense and stop complaining... but we all know that they will never shut up (not even if they get their way).

 

[Glerken]

However, gratuitous nudity and sexual content in a game is a pointless waste of money that could be used to improve the game in ways that advance the industry. It is a disgusting practice, and anybody who plays a game for the sex appeal is both wasting their money and wasting themselves.

what gives you the right to tell people that there "wasteing themselves" for playing a game for gratuatous sex and violence?
people enjoy, sex (theres a reason porn is the most succesful internet industry) and people enjoy violence, or at least watching it. If people enjoy these things then how is it in any sense wasteing there money and themselves?

Because it's not real?
I agree with the others, if it goes with the story line, and moves the plot go ahead and add it. If you just want to add it for the publicity, then no.

 

[PirateKing]

What came to mind was Elizabet bathing in a pool of blood in Ninja Gaiden 2. I kind of liked that,um...I guess I don't really mind. People make such a big deal about it. I love violence, but I think it's strange that a naked body is seen as worse than one that has been mutilated. They should be equal.

 

[thedo12]

Because it's not real?
I agree with the others, if it goes with the story line, and moves the plot go ahead and add it. If you just want to add it for the publicity, then no.

and what innocent video games are real again?

 

[internutt]

If you want to make a game with nudity in it, by all means go ahead.

If you are a parent who buys said game for their children under ten, it is the parent's fault, not the maker of the game. There is a time and place for nudity in any media, be it porn/hentai games, shower scenes or part of a loving relationship between two people. Lets face it, it is meant for mature audiences, so there is no problem with such content so long as the general populace understand what game ratings mean and do not buy it along with Hannah Montannah Karaoke for their child's Christmas.

Before we see more sex or even nudity in games we need to grow up a little. Treat the subject as less taboo and evil. It is how humanity create new generations after all. Nudity is a very natural thing, we are born that way.

EDIT: I am very tired, hopefully my points make sense.

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

I am torn between: What's the point? And: Why not?

 

[Shade Jackrabbit]

I think the problem is still that games are viewed as either a child's toy or something played by immature adults who "don't count" in the census of gamers. Therefor they come under flak for content unsuitable for children.

If video games were treated as any other medium, there wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately they aren't, and selling a game that has sex in it is thought to be equivalent to having dildos next to the Lego in a toy store.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

If its in context to the fiction then there is no problem with it.

The trouble try doing it in the established system of fou thought IE corporate mentalities, they think people are stupid and will fear it thus they think they will lose whatever family friendly street cred they think they have.

Gaming is stuck in the 60/70s where film was limited and restricted, it could well take us to 202X to get out of such stagnant mindsets.

 

[Mookie_Magnus]

However, gratuitous nudity and sexual content in a game is a pointless waste of money that could be used to improve the game in ways that advance the industry. It is a disgusting practice, and anybody who plays a game for the sex appeal is both wasting their money and wasting themselves.

What gives you the right to tell people that there "wasting themselves" for playing a game for gratuitous sex and violence?

People enjoy sex, (there's a reason porn is the most succesful internet industry) and people enjoy violence, or at least watching it. If people enjoy these things then how is it in any sense, wasting their money and themselves?

There, I fixed you minor errors. The world is at peace.(My impersonation of a grammar Nazi)

What give YOU the right to criticise someone for voicing their opinion? You have to remember that anything that is ever said, EVER, is opinion. Here, make life easier, anytime you read something or hear something that can be argued against, place the words '..in my opinion..' to the end of those statements. You will find that life will be a lot more bearable.

Now, as for my opinion, I personally don't see a problem with nudity in any form of art. What I DO have a problem with is people making a big deal out of even the most tame shots or pictures that portray the human body in its natural state. Look at most, if not all, of classical and Greco-Roman art. They had their models portray themselves nude and sculpted/painted them in that fashion. Why can we not do the same with video games and television? It is because in our modern society, every uncovered piece of flesh can be viewed as sensuous or vulgar, capable of warping the minds of our children. It is because of this indoctrination that nudity is a bad thing. It is because of this that any time an artist(game developers ARE artists) tries to show the convince the world otherwise, they are slammed with a wave of protests and censorship.

-Mookie_Magnus, an irate intellectual-