Your thoughts on... Feeders and Gainers

Parasondox

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Cowabungaa said:
Also, watch out Parasondax. If you're not careful with all these threads you might become the next Paragon Fury.

[small]We still love you though, Paragon bae. Never change.[/small]
Become? Next? Cunnilingus? Wait, ignore the last word. I mean, I'm already unpredictable and wish to take down... cleanse the Escapist Forums.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Also, watch out Parasondax. If you're not careful with all these threads you might become the next Paragon Fury.
I'm going to take this moment to say I also totally agree they can't possibly be the same person. Nope. Zip chance. Nada. Impossibru.
 

Thaluikhain

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Eh?

Yeah, people are into different things than me/faceless other people. Don't see what the fuss should be.
 

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Whatever floats their boats, I won't stop them from doing what they have to do to get their rocks off.

I do reserve the right to judge them though. That fetish promotes a completely unhealthy lifestyle, and I feel just as much disdain for the feeder (who I see as someone who values getting a chubby over his partner's health, the whole power dynamic between the two of them is also troubling) as for the fed (unhealthy life choices, and the whole bloating thing kind of grosses me out.)

While I don't like it, it is between two consenting adults, they have the right to their own kink, as gross as it may be.
 

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I like it. But I'll save it for drawings. No need to harm anyone.

BTW if anyone's looking for one, look up "Breakfast with Sister". One of my favorites.
 

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Heheheheheheh...oh, the terrible, horrible, scarring Deviantart stories I could link. Oh how I could show you what shame I've masturbated to and then been like "holy fuck, I'm never doing that again that went way to far, way too dark...maybe once more." It's super hard to find the line with this fetish, and if a story you're reading takes a dark turn and you're already jacking it...with tears of disgust in your eyes the show must go on.
 

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I just let people jerk off to whatever they want so long as no one gets hurt.
 

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RaikuFA said:
I like it. But I'll save it for drawings. No need to harm anyone.

BTW if anyone's looking for one, look up "Breakfast with Sister". One of my favorites.
I think that's a reasonable way to look at it. IRL it can lead to a dramatically shorter lifespan, but in a comic it doesn't matter.
 

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I've stumbled across a few online pics that looked like they were designed to appeal to feeders and gainers. Basically fan art that shows obese versions of characters. Because the characters are still made to look attractive despite their massive new beer guts, I get the impression they're meant to appeal to feeders and gainers. Still, since these are static pics, it looks like the characters have gained weight, while you or someone else on this thread said that this is about the process of gaining weight, presumably in the present tense. Would those pics still appeal to gainers and feeders?
 

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I seen a documentary a while back of this subject and, well, yes...it's messed up. There are stealth feeders that sneak weight gain into their girlfriend's diet as they control not only their food intake, but their entire lives too. A few of the guys openly admitted to being mainly aroused by the dependence on their existence as their girlfriends become literally trapped in their growing bodies. I'm sure there are consensual relationships, but even consent can be through low self esteem and fear of losing their partner. I wish i could fully describe my disgust for these control freaks with one simple, satisfying word...
 

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Casual Shinji said:
It's pretty horrid.

Not only is it endangering the "gainer's" health, it also makes them physically and emotionally depended on the "feeder". The gainer gains so much weight they can't do shit for themselves anymore, and they can't break off this relationship should they want to for fear of ending up alone and incapacitated. It's basically a form of enslavement.

Also note that most of these feeders are themselves fitness junkies, who want to endulge in an unhealthy lifestyle without putting their own bodies at risk.

It's not a relationship built on mutual respect and/or love, but on a physically and mentally unhealthy obsession.
The dependency aspect is often a major, if not THE major component of this fetish. You could make the same argument about most any dependency/objectification based fetish. Keep in mind that a fetish and the acts done as part of that fetish do not necessarily mean the participants don't love/respect one another outside of the fetish. Some fetishes are explicitly about disrespecting the other person/being disrespected. Now it is possible that the gainer in this situation may become physically and emotionally dependent and be abused but that's true of a lot of BDSM. As always there is fetishism as an exploration of sexual desire and fetishism as a driving force in one's lifestyle. The former is usually fine, the latter can come with a host of problems.
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
I seen a documentary a while back of this subject and, well, yes...it's messed up. There are stealth feeders that sneak weight gain into their girlfriend's diet as they control not only their food intake, but their entire lives too. A few of the guys openly admitted to being mainly aroused by the dependence on their existence as their girlfriends become literally trapped in their growing bodies. I'm sure there are consensual relationships, but even consent can be through low self esteem and fear of losing their partner. I wish i could fully describe my disgust for these control freaks with one simple, satisfying word...
Doesn't that kind of class as mental (emotional?) domestic abuse? I first say that story being done on the show Fortitude where the teacher was on purposely controlling the diet, intake amount and over feeding his partner. He was doing so to turn his partner into another version of his mother but the storyline was uncomfortable to witness. I thought to myself that that was just TV. Reality isn't that messed up? But then I saw Tumblr.
 
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No, Parasondox, I didn't want to finish my lunch. I'm absolutely full after one bite. Thanks.

I... I don't like this fetish. Even in manga form. It just really grosses me out. Didn't even know it's name until now. I came here expecting a discussion about MOBAs. Hell, I can't even look at my food right now. Again, thanks Parasondox.

I'm absolutely fine with people doing as they please. As long as there is consent I can't find anything wrong with it.
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My thoughts are "I'm so glad I don't have a fetish, they seem like hard work".
I really love American Dad's musical numbers.
 

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Gorrath said:
The dependency aspect is often a major, if not THE major component of this fetish. You could make the same argument about most any dependency/objectification based fetish. Keep in mind that a fetish and the acts done as part of that fetish do not necessarily mean the participants don't love/respect one another outside of the fetish. Some fetishes are explicitly about disrespecting the other person/being disrespected. Now it is possible that the gainer in this situation may become physically and emotionally dependent and be abused but that's true of a lot of BDSM. As always there is fetishism as an exploration of sexual desire and fetishism as a driving force in one's lifestyle. The former is usually fine, the latter can come with a host of problems.
Stuff like BDSM isn't 24/7 though, and the recipient typically has a safety word for when it gets too much. The gainer however can't step out of their morbidly obese body once they and the feeder had their fix.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Gorrath said:
The dependency aspect is often a major, if not THE major component of this fetish. You could make the same argument about most any dependency/objectification based fetish. Keep in mind that a fetish and the acts done as part of that fetish do not necessarily mean the participants don't love/respect one another outside of the fetish. Some fetishes are explicitly about disrespecting the other person/being disrespected. Now it is possible that the gainer in this situation may become physically and emotionally dependent and be abused but that's true of a lot of BDSM. As always there is fetishism as an exploration of sexual desire and fetishism as a driving force in one's lifestyle. The former is usually fine, the latter can come with a host of problems.
Stuff like BDSM isn't 24/7 though, and the recipient typically has a safety word for when it gets too much. The gainer however can't step out of their morbidly obese body once they and the feeder had their fix.
For some people, BDSM is a lifestyle, not just something they engage in inside a bedroom. Additionally, not all gainers are fat to the point of being unable to move or take care of themselves. The sort of feeder/gainer dichotomy where one person is totally incapacitated is quite rare, even within the community of people who find the fetish exciting.
 

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Bocaj2000 said:
RaikuFA said:
I like it. But I'll save it for drawings. No need to harm anyone.

BTW if anyone's looking for one, look up "Breakfast with Sister". One of my favorites.
I think that's a reasonable way to look at it. IRL it can lead to a dramatically shorter lifespan, but in a comic it doesn't matter.
Hell the stuff I like the girls look like they're 140-180lbs. Anything higher and I'm all like "NOPE!"
 

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Damn you, well-timed Vice Essentials episode...

OT: It's another thing that makes me hungry just looking at it...

Other than that, I would probably be a submissive feeder, at best... "Y-you want more pizza, my master? *flinches* It's just cheese this time... I swear..."
 

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Parasondox said:
Doesn't that kind of class as mental (emotional?) domestic abuse? I first say that story being done on the show Fortitude where the teacher was on purposely controlling the diet, intake amount and over feeding his partner. He was doing so to turn his partner into another version of his mother but the storyline was uncomfortable to witness. I thought to myself that that was just TV. Reality isn't that messed up? But then I saw Tumblr.
In that sense, it would i imagine. But not something as easy to prove. There were those that had no contact with family and situations that weren't known till it was bad enough that they required help from the fire services just to be extracted from their homes. People will justify these desires to control others if they find a person willing to submit, but it's not something they can back out of easily if they believe they made a mistake. Reality is fucked up.
 

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FPLOON said:
Damn you, well-timed Vice Essentials episode...

OT: It's another thing that makes me hungry just looking at it...

Other than that, I would probably be a submissive feeder, at best... "Y-you want more pizza, my master? *flinches* It's just cheese this time... I swear..."
That was the TV show I was referring to. The description of the episode said it was about online dating. I turned to the show late into the episode. I saw maybe one segment about online dating. After a commercial break, without warning, it was about this fetish. NO! Oh, Great! Now, I need to watch some wholesome tentacle porn to get the memory of watching that show out my head.
 

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I don't think the people who make other people overeat are necessarily bad people by default but they fail to realize the consequences of their actions. the gainers ten to be people in need of money while the feeders are the ones getting the enjoyment. the gainers usually regret this later because of fatal obesity. so i think that until they make some kind of viritual gainer which does not affect the well being of aa real person this particular fetish should not be practiced