Your thoughts on... Porn and the Porn industry.

Elfgore

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The industry as a whole is pretty shitty from videos I've seen, I recall a video where former actress Lisa Ann talked about racism. How not only was she, but many other rising actresses were told that interracial porn would ruin their careers. Once she retired she now started her own company and is trying to fix all of that. Of course other issues most likely exist that I have no idea of.

As for porn itself, no issue with it. Though the fact people can blame it for teaching how sex works, or in this case doesn't, shouldn't be blamed on porn. Blame it on the horrendous sex Ed courses in schools and parents not wanting to properly explain it.
 

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I wasn't originally gonna post, but I had to give you props for mentioning Lily Thai.

So, here we go. I am without a partner for several reasons, I don't feel comfortable getting into a relationship with another person before I'm comfortable with myself and how my life is. Second...fuck it, it's a Parasondox thread, I have a micro-penis and I try not to think about how that will affect a relationship.

Thus, I use porn as a tool to clear some stress and my mind once or twice a week. I think porn concepts have gotten a lot worse, meaning much more depraved, but I really don't care to judge. We all have that one (or however many) kink(s) and as long as you're not watching porn at inappropriate times (like work, or on your phone at school, or...in public at all) and an inappropriate number of times that negatively impacts/effects your life, then I think it's totally fine. Sex is hardwired into us at a level where everyone should have a healthy and available outlet for it.

I do however, find it weird that actresses are actually raped on set, and I believe it to be deplorable, so when talking about the industry itself, I would like to see improvement, perhaps a job that's like how there's someone on a movie set making sure the animals aren't hurt...that...that sounds bad but I'm not equating pornstars to animals just...shut up.
 

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Massive prude here. Porn is an awful industry with horrifying amounts of coercion and rape involved, preying on peoples' addictions (the viewers) and other peoples' lack of money (most performers). Shouldn't be banned (prohibition didn't work), but should absolutely be criticized much more than it currently is.

I stay away from it. The oft-repeated message that I, as a male, "need" sexual stimulation is simply untrue. If you don't start, you never have to stop.
 

Casual Shinji

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Hmmm...

I'm more into the 2D stuff (when the mood strikes). Pathetic and a sign of me not being able to deal with real people? Maybe. But with live-action material there's always that lingering sense that one or two (or three) of the people involved aren't doing this of their own free will, coupled with the awkwardness of watching someone doing it. Something about the latter also feels just a tad invasive from my end, even if they're completely okay with making a living that way.
 

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Elfgore said:
The industry as a whole is pretty shitty from videos I've seen, I recall a video where former actress Lisa Ann talked about racism. How not only was she, but many other rising actresses were told that interracial porn would ruin their careers. Once she retired she now started her own company and is trying to fix all of that. Of course other issues most likely exist that I have no idea of.
I saw something like that on the Daily Show a few months ago and when I saw it I just thought "fucking seriously? Racism in porn too?!!!". I was annoyed just at hearing some of the accounts about how an actress would demand extra pay for having sex with a black guy and another on how one actress couldn't sleep with a black guy cause her father will disapprove. Fuck that noise.

Elfgore said:
As for porn itself, no issue with it. Though the fact people can blame it for teaching how sex works, or in this case doesn't, shouldn't be blamed on porn. Blame it on the horrendous sex Ed courses in schools and parents not wanting to properly explain it.
When US sex ed teaches kids that women are like celotape, a dirty shoe, used socks, gum. Then I see why many go to porn for their introduction to sex. Sex ed needs a major fucking change.

Zhukov said:
At the very least I wish people wouldn't treat people who make porn as lesser because of it. Not everyone does of course, but the attitude definitely exists.
I dislike when people do that. Think I remember a thread here that a few years ago that had someone comment on how those who do porn should have no respect at all because of morals or something. Distasteful and disgusting that comment was. If someone did porn, was a stripper or a sex worker, so fucking what? Do not treat them like shit because of their profession because they are humans like all of us making a living. Lord knows in many jobs you are over worked and over paid for donkeys.
 

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as an asexual i find the material rather strange and unpleasant, simoultaneously unable to understand why anyone would find it appealing and knowing that the majority of the population finds it appealing. as to the industry it is known for being ruthless, violating laws in order to cater to fetishes, such as using children and torture in the videos. the actors and actresses usually aren't forced to do it as far as i know and considering how bad the job market for acting is i wouldn't blame someone for takings such a job. however in some countries young women who live in poverty, usually in rural areas are some times kidnapped and forcibly used in prostitution and pornography.
 

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Parasondox said:
Elfgore said:
As for porn itself, no issue with it. Though the fact people can blame it for teaching how sex works, or in this case doesn't, shouldn't be blamed on porn. Blame it on the horrendous sex Ed courses in schools and parents not wanting to properly explain it.
When US sex ed teaches kids that women are like celotape, a dirty shoe, used socks, gum. Then I see why many go to porn for their introduction to sex. Sex ed needs a major fucking change.
Not sure how it is in the UK, but I didn't even have a sex Ed course until I was in 6th grade. In 4th grade they told girls about PMS and for guys... About how are bodies are getting stinkier and we need to start wearing deodorant. I'm not joking. 6th grades was nothing but fear mongering to push absinence. They actually explained it so poorly I thought that just two people having unprotected sex could get an STD. Even if neither partner had one. Same for the one in 10th grade as well, without the absinence part. Just non-stop horror pictures of STDs.

Not once was I taught at school about why my willie got hard when I thought of naked girls. That was a friend. Not once was I told about masturbation. Again a friend. And not once was I given hints at what hole I should be sticking it in. I'm not asking for a Monty Python level of sex Ed, but give me something god damnit!
 

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Parasondox said:
But really, after seeing many documentaries surrounding porn and the behind the scenes of it, it a profression that is tough, cruel and extreme at times with little to less care for the performers.
Unlike every other profession where employers care deeply about their workers and strive to ensure that wages are high and that they enjoy a stress-free life of ease and comfort on and off the workplace.
 

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Well, as a single guy in his 20s and a daily consumer of said material (sue me!) I have to say it's a great relief to live in the era of streamable porn, where you don't have to worry about someone catching you or try to sneakily buy mags late at night. I'd say porn in today's world is a necessary evil, and a hell of a lot better than having nothing at all (pent-up male sexual frustration and all that).

The industry... eehhh, yeah, it can be quite messed up, but then again, so are the food, restaurant and medical industries. And if you feel uncomfortable watching something where you think someone is being exploited, there's always cam sites. But it absolutely should not be used in sex ed, no more than action movie car chases should be used on driving lessons.
 

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Veylon said:
Parasondox said:
But really, after seeing many documentaries surrounding porn and the behind the scenes of it, it a profression that is tough, cruel and extreme at times with little to less care for the performers.
Unlike every other profession where employers care deeply about their workers and strive to ensure that wages are high and that they enjoy a stress-free life of ease and comfort on and off the workplace.
This.

If it makes you feel better about watching porn, just remember that the device that you play your video games on or even read this comment with was almost certainly built by modern-day slaves who work in environments that will send many of them to their graves.

Compared to that, porn isn't so bad.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Parasondox said:
Made me think twice about Brazzer. Then again I don't like Brazzer, it seems so damn fake.
Seems? I can't even get a twinge down there when I see a Brazzers video. Like watching a toddler smash a Barbie Doll and GI Joe together.
Hey, they started to put Bane references on their videos so they do deserve some credit.

Also, this then happened
 

DOOM GUY

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No though, real porn is okay, sometimes.

Would be lying if I said I haven't viewed a lot of it...
 

Parasondox

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Veylon said:
Parasondox said:
But really, after seeing many documentaries surrounding porn and the behind the scenes of it, it a profression that is tough, cruel and extreme at times with little to less care for the performers.
Unlike every other profession where employers care deeply about their workers and strive to ensure that wages are high and that they enjoy a stress-free life of ease and comfort on and off the workplace.
Seriously? I said it's A profession that is tough on it's workers. I didn't compare it with others and create a sarcastic tone about it.
 

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I greatly support the amateur porn industry even if all I do is click on their ads and not buy their [demo] DVDs, but for glob's sake hentai production companies, will you please slow down on the NTR/rape OVA releases? I'd rather watch the artistic expression of a shorta hentai OVA than to keep running into the notion of getting turned on by a forced pseudo-tsundere!

*ahem* Other than that, despite my love for more T.I.T.S., it still has no bearing to my asexual-ness any less than my overall perversion that came before said realization... With that said, thank you J-List for that DVD box set...
 

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Porn's fine -- great even. Benefits are many, the downsides are almost entirely supplier-side. Sex workers often get fucked over (hurr,) and what I find most unfortunate is that if a former porn star is outed, usually a woman, their lot in life is much harder when they move on and try to lead a normal life. Possible employers turn them away, and they're treated like freaks by many. That's very sad, but it's not porn's fault, it's society's backwards take on the subject.
 

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I'm into some weird shit (although probably pretty tame compared of some of the weird shit others are into), and I'm sure your first guess would probably be correct. Even so, I don't really use porn, mostly because I seem to just naturally be in the mood for a wank either before I go to sleep or directly after waking up, and as hilarious as this might sound ... I just can't be bothered getting out of bed and sitting at my computer while I do it. I especially can't be bothered going on the internet or retrieving my USB, plus I just like the comfort of laying in bed.

So I'm largely apathetic to porn.
 

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I see nothing wrong with porn as a thing. The nature of the industry varies tremendously depending where it is filmed. In modern first world countries with enforceable laws, I don't believe people who claim there is any significant proportion of trafficking, coercion, or other unsavoury practices, but I'm sure that's a big problem in countries with less rule of law or more corruption in law enforcement.
As for my personal preferences, there are a few ladies I enjoy watching because they have a body type I prefer, such as Shizuku Amai, but on the whole I much prefer a well written dirty story or well drawn hentai. Most live action performers don't really do it for me, especially since I'm not really into blonde hair and tanned skin. Besides which, some of the stuff I really like is literally impossible in real life, such as fantasy races.

Edit: There are some porn games that are pretty fun, too. I've recently been enjoying Custom Maid 3D 2. I think certain internet commentators would have a meltdown if they encountered this game.
 

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Heh, I think it's something healthy to have, though it could definitively use some more control. The potential for abuse or a massive outbreak of sickness among the performers is simply too great to stay as lax on regulations as the industry is.

Louis Theroux did a few interesting pieces on the effects of pornography on the performers (as well as their families), it's interesting, touching, and obviously a tad bit depressing, I'd highly recommend it, but then again, I'd highly recommend pretty much anything Theroux does.

As far as I, personally, am concerned, I can't watch porn with the sound on. The moans/screams/squeals just completely take me out of it.
 

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In principle, not necessarily bad. Neutral.

In practice, frequently awful and in desperate need of more effective oversight.
 

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Dragonbums said:
I prefer the fanfic smut and 2D drawings. Nobody real is harmed in them.
And yet.....My dad's mind has never been the same since he walked in on me "browsing through".

Oh Daddy...why didn't you knock on the damn door.

*sniff*