Your Thoughts On Suicide

[Extraintrovert]

I've been thinking (shocking, I know). About life, death, and everything in between. The nature of human existence, the purpose of our being, the value of life. General things. But also about my own pathetic excuse for a life, the lack of desire for it to continue, and the growing desire for it to end, culminating in a decision. Certainly in greater detail than I produce here, but I have always been terrible at verbalising my thoughts and it is doubtful that will change now.

Anyway, so what I want to know, The Escapist, is how the hive mind views suicide? After all, the best source of information is random people I will never meet whose only connection is the intertubes. Will there be a continuous spew of the same trite arguments, or, as surprisingly occurs, someone will provide genuine, interesting insight? I suppose the only way to know will be for me to select the "post" button.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

There was a thread like this posted some months ago, and I thought it was really thoughtful on the subject. I don't know its title so I won't look for it.

Well, my thoughts is that it's a coward's escape. When shit hits fan, find a rag, don't run from it. And really, you're only leaving a larger (and not to mention more expensive) problem to your family and friends.

 

[Lust]

We exist simply to exist. If we didn't, we wouldn't.

So, enjoy what you got. You only get one shot.

Besides, suicide is never the answer.

EDIT: Hedonism is your friend.
Anyway, you probably have already made up your decision. I cannot decide what you do with your life.

 

[Alumit]

There was a thread like this posted some months ago, and I thought it was really thoughtful on the subject. I don't know its title so I won't look for it.

Well, my thoughts is that it's a coward's escape. When shit hits fan, find a rag, don't run from it. And really, you're only leaving a larger (and not to mention more expensive) problem to your family and friends.

Right on the dot mate. It's never the answer, and it's throwing any honour or achievements in your life down the drain. Believe me, I know things can start to seem REALLY dark at times, but there's always light at the end of every tunnel. Otherwise it'd just be a cave. And life isn't a cave. It's a pathway that may lead you through tunnels. Never caves.


Peace~

 

[NorthernTrooper]

My mother suicided when I was nine, and my father suicided this year, April 22nd. Being so close to suicide has affected me greatly, but I will never follow suit.

Thinking positive helps me get by as well as having great friends.

 

[Cynical skeptic]

The standard sentiment is "Permanent solution to a temporary problem," and all that. But a good amount of people actually get angry at suicides. "How could they do that to me?" "How selfish of them to hurt me like that!" Theres also the school of thought that says it is only, ever a result of mental disease.

Honestly, fuck all these people. Its easy to argue the preceding is somewhat selfish, but when faced with an objectively meaningless existence, you're either caught up in several sets of subjective circular "meaning" or you truly understand how pointless all of this is. When faced with that, suicide becomes extremely tempting.

 

[Scobie]

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[MiracleOfSound]

My brother took his life in 1998.

All I can say is that it is a horrible thing to go through for the people who are left behind.

I don't judge though, some people are just dealt cards in life that make them so miserable that any alternative imaginable to them is better than living in this strange fucked up world.

 

[Marter]

The world can suck, and often times does. People who go through hell on earth pretty much have two choices.

A) Give up
B) Keep going

Now, in choice number one, one of the ways to accomplish that is to commit suicide. When someone does that, it's over. Done. You don't get another chance. You can't start to repair things in your life. You are gone. You have left people who cared about you in turmoil. You don't care any more, because you no longer exist, but those people's emotions are still impacted, and often in a drastic way.

But, if you choose the second choice, you get a chance to repair your life. People who choose this option usually end up in a better situation because of what they have gone through. They end up being stronger, and able to help people who still are living with negativity. These people become benefits to society, as opposed to the burden on people that they would be if they committed suicide.

With that said, I don't believe people can completely rule out suicide. An example where it might be acceptable would be if diagnosed with a terminal illness. A very painful terminal illness, where you can't get relief. Then it may be acceptable.

 

[ThreeWords]

We exist simply to exist. If we didn't we wouldn't.

So, enjoy what you got. You only get one shot.

This man has put my thoughts better than I could've done.

 

[capin Rob]

I've thought about doing it deeply and have come very close to following through, Never could quite push myself to do it though....

As for thev eiw on it, it's subjective to the person.

To some, Life is Grand and good, the feeling of life is the best thing ever.

To others, Life is bleek and shit and death is the Sweet release to remove the Darkness and pain.

 

[DonMartin]

"Life is a beautiful gift, no matter if it's sweet, bitter, sour or spicy. It would be rude to throw away a gift like that."

I think we should cherish whatever time we have here.

...also about my own pathetic excuse for a life,

That's both subjective and relative, dont you think? Life and truth are both constantly changing, so nothing is absolute, nothing is definite. Considering your own life as pathetic will only make it pathetic, whereas embracing the world, thinking, and actually opening your eyes will make the world seem so much different.

I have attempted suicide twice, but after just a short comment a friend made to me, ("Youre a great guy. I love you, as do many. But youre the only one making it hard to do so. Youre making it hard for people to love you. Even to care for you.") I changed. My mind is clear, my body is fit, i walk upright and do my best to make others feel good. I recovered from my OCD. I had panic attacks no more. I feel better than ever, right now.

A great man once said "Eat your food, move your bowels, pass water and when you're tired go and lie down. The ignorant will laugh at me, but the wise will understand." This man was Bruce Lee. Not only a movie star and arguably the greatest martial artist that ever lived, a very wise man and philosopher, who died, long before his time was due. What does this tell us? Was that the "pathetic life" you were talking about?

There is no need to kill ourselves, for death will find us soon enough. And usually, when he does, we do not want to be found.

?Anyone desperate enough for suicide...should be desperate enough to go to creative extremes to solve problems: elope at midnight, stow away on the boat to New Zealand and start over, do what they always wanted to do but were afraid to try.? If you dare consider suicide, you dare consider everything else.

?The most authentic thing about us is our capacity to create, to overcome, to endure, to transform, to love and to be greater than our suffering.?


I often say i try to love everything, respect everything and be grateful for everything. Some may call me naive. Maybe i am, maybe i am not. It is a strange thing, to see that people who damn this world, call it horrible, bleak, cold, that people are evil, are more popular than the people who think otherwise.

?There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you still get the same soaking. This understanding extends to everything.?

"Everyone will suffer in their lives. He who realizes this will not let himself be taken down by pain, hate or suffering. He who considers his life to be special, might call it unfair."

Alright, you get my point? There is no need in killing yourself. Suicide is the first alternative we see when we think there's no return. All we need is to turn our heads, and there's a world of other possibilities.

 

[DonMartin]

Go on, cap all those know nothing fuckers who are quite happy to dispense advice on somethign they have no fucking clue about.

So rather than people telling someone to cheer up, you would have them do nothing? Of course people are going to want to say something to atleast try to make things better. They dont want that someone to kill themselves, that's why they try.
But if you react to it like it's "they have no fucking clue about" rather than seeing the actual fact that they are trying to help you, then youre just being blind. Sure, some people just say it because "youre supposed to", they've learned that suicide is bad and should be stopped, but what about the ones who really mean it?

Otherwise, i agree with most of the things you said in your post, and i can relate to them aswell. You know what youre talking about.

 

[Mass B]

I prefer to tough it out than to take what some would consider the easy way out. Things can always improve, and they have for me.

 

[TehCookie]

My thoughts on suicide, if you are having serious thoughts do the world a favor and kill yourself. If you don't want to live your life don't make everyone's around you as disappointing and horrible as yours, so go die. Also do it neatly so I don't have to clean up after you, it's even worse when someone attempts suicide and doesn't die and I still have to clean up the bloody mess.

 

[MikhailGH]

I simple view it as a game of chance. Look, if there is only something like rebirth or reliving, alright. If there is heaven and hell, you'll end up for eternity in hell. But what if there is nothing at all? I mean what if there is absolutely nothing after life? Congratulations, you just threw away 30/50/70 years of playing games or doing anything you want. And I mean WHATEVER. If you really feel like life has nothing to give you, do something you would have never dared to do. Go join a rebellion army in Africa. Hijack an airplane and go skydiving with it. Rob a bank. I mean what can happen? You'll get hurt, maybe even die? Well, at least you tried something out, and didn't just jump from a bridge.

So basically, I think I am too much of a coward to actually kill myself. I'll rather spend the next 50 years gaming and/or doing crazy stuff than killing myself.

 

[DonMartin]

Aw shucks, i bet you say that to all the ex alcaholic depressives whove been suicidal <3


Its not that people want to help, its that so many people totally misunderstand how the individual is feeling. I appreacite that I'm being a bit of a **** but to me it would be like if i was trapped in a burning house leaning out the window screaming for help and having to be polite and pretend i appreicate the bloke pissing through my letterbox.

No, that was just a compliment from one ex OCD depressive to another slightly different depressive who have both been suicidal <3

Right, i get what youre saying, and i agree, after a while you dont want people to tell you how to get out of whatever's bothering you. But we can atleast try to be understanding, and see that atleast theyre trying to help, or just say
"sorry, id like to figure this out on my own, and seeing as everybody's different, im sure youll agree that i find it hard to believe that doing something someone else has done to help themselves will fix my problems. I still thank you for you consideration and i appreciate that youre trying to help."

Right, so maybe not exactly that, but you know what im saying.

 

[slowpoke999]

I simple view it as a game of chance. Look, there is only something like rebirth or reliving, alright. If if there is heaven and hell, you'll end up for eternity in hell. But what if there is nothing at all? I mean what if there is absolutely nothing after life? Congratulations, you just threw away 30/50/70 years of playing games or doing anything you want. And I mean WHATEVER. If you really feel like life has nothing to give you, do something you would have never dared to do. Go join a rebellion army in Africa. Hijack an airplane and go skydiving with it. Rob a bank. I mean what can happen? You'll get hurt, maybe even die? Well, at least you tried something out, and didn't just jump from a bridge.

So basically, I think I am too much of a coward to actually kill myself. I'll rather spend the next 50 years gaming and/or doing crazy stuff than killing myself.

Yeah but this isn't GroundHog day where everything goes back to normal the next day,more then likely people who are suicidal and tend to do crazy shit because they feel they've got nothing to lose, end up getting themselves in trouble,maybe even locked up and having to face their consequences, nothing would suck more then feeling suicidal, getting thrown in jail for hijacking a plane, then not feeling suicidal anymore, feeling suicidal really is a shit bag as most people who don't commit suicide end up doing things that they will later which they didn't do.

 

[MikhailGH]

Yeah but this isn't GroundHog day where everything goes back to normal the next day,more then likely people who are suicidal and tend to do crazy shit because they feel they've got nothing to lose, end up getting themselves in trouble,maybe even locked up and having to face their consequences, nothing would suck more then feeling suicidal, getting thrown in jail for hijacking a plane, then not feeling suicidal anymore, feeling suicidal really is a shit bag as most people who don't commit suicide end up doing things that they will later which they didn't do.

I am not sure I am getting everything here, but I think you say I may stop being suicidal after doing something crazy, but become it again when I face the consequences? Yes, that may suck, but what I meant was that simply killing yourself isn't an option. I know it, I think about it every third day, but I won't do it. I want do something, anything, as anything is better than just being dead. And I am not 100% sure I'll rebirth as a worm, or end up on an astral plane, so yeah, keep living is simply a better option

And btw, the guy asked for our THOUGHTS on suicide, he didn't say "Hey mates I need help give me some hugs" or whatever.

 

[KindOfnElf]

If you dare consider suicide, you dare consider everything else.

I'll agree with this completely.

OT: I've been where you are, and it's a complicated getting out alive out of there, but there is a way. And for me it was that thing right there in the quote: I started considering everything else, cause I realized that no matter how hurt I am from life (and believe me I was) I am not going to make any good to no one if I only cause more pain. So, I abandoned everything. I committed "suicide" to my personality at the time, cause obviously it was not working. And it wasn't the worlds fault - it was my fault.
I packed my bags, isolated myself from people, shut down phone, PC, paused faculty, and went away. I froze the time for me.
And bit by bit, I released myself from the pressure I felt inside, accepting me for who I am, what I do, what I can, but most important what I CAN'T. And realized that IT'S FUCKING OK to can't do things. Understand? It does not mean that if you lower your expectations for yourself you are a loser. No. Only a person aware and smart enough can know it's limits and can set the pace of it's own life. YOUR PACE, YOUR LIFE!
For me, it was a brand new start in a brand new world. For a first time I sat down with myself and had a proper introduction. Then I found out what are my likes and dislikes. Then my abilities, what I can and what can't I do - first for me, and later for other people; what I have to offer as a person, what I really want in return from the other person, questions about ethics, family, friends, career, partner. I met me, the real me that couldn't do so many things that thought could do, and end up suicidal cause expectations were too high. An of course I thought myself for a loser and pathetic! It's what happens when one bites way more than one can chew. Than got back on the ground, worked on my self confidence from the real point: with what I really had, and hey, turns out I am not that bad! Not that bad at all.

It's up to you. It's all up to you. It takes courage to reach for your own life, that I know too well, but it also takes courage to step out of it and create yourself all over again. Just close this fucking chapter, blank yourself out from everything, and rewrite yourself, only this time use more imagination. It can work if you want. Best of luck.