I believe that list only applies to American companies so Konami and Ubisoft aren't options either way.XenoScifi said:I am sure EA and Ubisoft execs are high fiving each other somewhere knowing they almost certainly cannot get worst company of the year award this year. Oh no, that award is already gobbled up by Konami...and they may take next years as well just for all this. Just saying
YouTube Overturned Konami's Copyright Claim Against Critical Video
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They should, but the DMCA is older than Youtube, which is part of the problem.Bob_McMillan said:
In 1998 Youtube wasn't around, video streaming wasn't in wide use and even Napster hadn't started up. The DMCA covers issues that the US legislators hadn't even conceived of yet, so naturally they got it all wrong and mostly did what the MPAA and RIAA told them to.
Holy fucking crap.
So not only do we now have a precedent where Youtube actually checked the first claim in the history of DMCA, but there also appear to have some humans working there still. Since all we ever get from them are automated responses I figured their copyright bot net took over long ago and gassed the remaining filthy humans, yet it seems some have survived in there.
So not only do we now have a precedent where Youtube actually checked the first claim in the history of DMCA, but there also appear to have some humans working there still. Since all we ever get from them are automated responses I figured their copyright bot net took over long ago and gassed the remaining filthy humans, yet it seems some have survived in there.
HOLD ON! HOLD ON!
I think we missed the real story.
YouTube investigated a copyright claim on their own and restored the content after looking at the case?!
Stay inside people because i think the sky may begin falling any moment. Google did something right.
I think we missed the real story.
YouTube investigated a copyright claim on their own and restored the content after looking at the case?!
Stay inside people because i think the sky may begin falling any moment. Google did something right.
Seems like everybody wants to join EA's ranks. There was Microsoft for a while (and may still be, IDK), Ubisoft, and now Konami.XenoScifi said:I am sure EA and Ubisoft execs are high fiving each other somewhere knowing they almost certainly cannot get worst company of the year award this year. Oh no, that award is already gobbled up by Konami...and they may take next years as well just for all this. Just saying
To those posting YouTube are not to blame and it's just the DMCA at fault.
Bad law or not, the DMCA takedown requirement only applies to valid and legitimate claims.
YouTube accepts all takedown claims not just the valid and legitimate ones.
No innocent until proven guilty system applies at all. After two weeks all the bogus claims lapse and whatever revenue would have been made is lost forever.
With many topical issues, the debate has moved on and only the content maker suffers.
The bogus takedowns are intended to remove the content for those two weeks, they do exactly what the abusers want.
YouTube can easily stop this abuse with no more effort than used to allow it.
Firat simply freeze the payment on the video until it's resolved, this system already exists and is an option used by some legitimate DMCA claims where the claimant takes the money instead of removing the video.
So no automatic takedown needs to happen at all.
The winner of the dispute decides what happens, only once the claim is resolved. Not before.
Removing the entire purpose of abusing the system, stops the abuse.
This is why YouTube is to blaim, they allow the abuse of their system.
The DMCA doesn't apply to false claims. YouTubes rules do.
Bad law or not, the DMCA takedown requirement only applies to valid and legitimate claims.
YouTube accepts all takedown claims not just the valid and legitimate ones.
No innocent until proven guilty system applies at all. After two weeks all the bogus claims lapse and whatever revenue would have been made is lost forever.
With many topical issues, the debate has moved on and only the content maker suffers.
The bogus takedowns are intended to remove the content for those two weeks, they do exactly what the abusers want.
YouTube can easily stop this abuse with no more effort than used to allow it.
Firat simply freeze the payment on the video until it's resolved, this system already exists and is an option used by some legitimate DMCA claims where the claimant takes the money instead of removing the video.
So no automatic takedown needs to happen at all.
The winner of the dispute decides what happens, only once the claim is resolved. Not before.
Removing the entire purpose of abusing the system, stops the abuse.
This is why YouTube is to blaim, they allow the abuse of their system.
The DMCA doesn't apply to false claims. YouTubes rules do.
Wow, Youtube actually does something good for once? I hoped they can carrying on doing that.
Now that I watched the actual video, it was interesting and it seen another company will meet their downfall soon.
Now that I watched the actual video, it was interesting and it seen another company will meet their downfall soon.
Hmmm, I wonder if this attempt to squash discussion on the internet at large about their buffoonery will lead to more discussion about their failures... What's that? People who hadn't even heard about Konami's antics are now condemning Konami and videos talking about it are getting a lot more traffic because of this? What??
Konami better get busy and DMCA strike all videos remotely mentioning them. Even if they're tagged in a video, that could be enough to start a discussion about the company in a negative light and that's just not permissible.
Konami better get busy and DMCA strike all videos remotely mentioning them. Even if they're tagged in a video, that could be enough to start a discussion about the company in a negative light and that's just not permissible.
You know I usually ignored brands and companies when I bought games unless it was a company I really liked like Blizzard..
But nowadays you have to check and see what and which company is pro consumer, which does the major screw ups, put it on a put in on a balance and decide to buy their games or not.... damn last year in gaming really changed everything!
But nowadays you have to check and see what and which company is pro consumer, which does the major screw ups, put it on a put in on a balance and decide to buy their games or not.... damn last year in gaming really changed everything!
They never had a leg to stand on with this complaint as the video clip in question absolutely falls under the "Fair Use" clause. The fact that a large corporation is so incompetent as to not know this is almost mind boggling, the fact that they went ahead and did this even though they knew it would get press and that their customers would react poorly is criminally stupid.
A well written news article on The Escapist? Youtube actually doing something right? What is the world coming to.
Wow, kudos on Youtube. This has easily been my biggest gripe with them and if they make this a habit it'll go a long way to restore lost faith in them.
It may have something to do with their move from console gaming to mobiles, and their focus on their other venues of revenue. I'm not sure what advantage burning bridges would have here, but then again, Konami hasn't been acting too intelligent lately.loa said:
Youtube actually doing their job is unheard of. I can tell you what REALLY happened:
Someone high up was really looking forward to Silent Hills.
Edit: Also, keep up the good work Mr. Zimmerman. This wasn't just a good read, but should be the standard all other articles on the Escapist are held to, at the LEAST.
Someone high up was really looking forward to Silent Hills.
Edit: Also, keep up the good work Mr. Zimmerman. This wasn't just a good read, but should be the standard all other articles on the Escapist are held to, at the LEAST.
Nah. Konami isn't insane, they're just stupid. Really, really, really, really, stupid.MonsterCrit said:
To be fair, it is Conrad Zimmerman. We mere mortals still cannot comprehend the power bestowed upon him by the greatness of his mustache.EndlessSporadic said:
[sub][sub]I miss the podcast antics with Jonathan.[/sub][/sub]