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The Crispy Tiger

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So, SHIT. I have never played a Zelda game. EVER. I really want to get into it. But I can't. My computer can't run 3d games so the only thing I can do is get a NES emulator. If it wouldn't break my computer! So now I want to get into Zelda but I don't own a Nintendo console, nor can I actually use an emulator. DAMN IT. Why does trying to get into Nintendo got to be so hard! This is worse then when I tried to get into the Dreamcast! Should I,

A. Save up for Gamecube, A Old Tv, and Trying To Find All The Cables that go with the GameCube, and of course Nintendo Games

B. Get a gaming computer, Emulate the shit out of old Nintendo games from the NES Era all the way to the Early Wii

OR C.

Save up for a PlayStation 4 and tell Nintendo to go fuck itself.

Those are my options. Help me out guys.
 

Pink Gregory

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Not much point buying a console for just one game, but then again obtaining a Gamecube is probably cheaper than buying a gaming PC, but there's more advantages to the latter.

I don't know how rare it's become now, but there's a special edition of Wind Waker that comes with Ocarina of Time on a seperate disc. Might be your best bet.
 

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Well one, buying a Gamecube isn't as much a hassle as you make it seem. If you go that route, buy Windwaker. Could also try to find a N64 and play Ocarina, since that's where a large portion of Zelda fans came from.

Or get a 3DS, then you can get Ocarina 3D, as well as classic NES/SNES Zelda games on the virtual store or Club Nintendo if you earn the coins. (I have the original Zelda and Link's Awakening installed on mine)
 

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The Crispy Tiger said:
B. Get a gaming computer, Emulate the shit out of old Nintendo games from the NES Era all the way to the Early Wii
No because, unless you purchase those games you plan to emulate, it's illegal.

A. Save up for Gamecube, A Old Tv, and Trying To Find All The Cables that go with the GameCube, and of course Nintendo Games
Why not a Wii instead? There are two Zelda games on that system, and the virtual console, which will give you access to most of the others, plus it's backwards compatible, so it's also a Gamecube.

OR C.

Save up for a PlayStation 4 and tell Nintendo to go fuck itself.
That's also a good option
 

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Pink Gregory said:
Not much point buying a console for just one game, but then again obtaining a Gamecube is probably cheaper than buying a gaming PC, but there's more advantages to the latter.

I don't know how rare it's become now, but there's a special edition of Wind Waker that comes with Ocarina of Time on a seperate disc. Might be your best bet.
Buying a console for "one game" is just the entry game. I got a 360 just for Oblivion, but I eventually got a very large library for it. I got a PS2 for Vice City, and again, large library, etc.
 

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Saelune said:
Pink Gregory said:
Not much point buying a console for just one game, but then again obtaining a Gamecube is probably cheaper than buying a gaming PC, but there's more advantages to the latter.

I don't know how rare it's become now, but there's a special edition of Wind Waker that comes with Ocarina of Time on a seperate disc. Might be your best bet.
Buying a console for "one game" is just the entry game. I got a 360 just for Oblivion, but I eventually got a very large library for it. I got a PS2 for Vice City, and again, large library, etc.
Well, you're not wrong, I can say that.
 

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Save up for a PS4? Yeah, I think that eliminates getting a gaming PC. Those things will certainly run you more than the PS4. I'd also avoid the gaming PC route because downloading ROMs for games you don't own is illegal.

Anyways, why not buy a 3DS? It's relatively cheap compared to the other options, and it currently has a much stronger library than the PS4. You can also play A Link Between Worlds, Ocarina of Time, Zelda, Zelda II, Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons, and Link's Awakening (once you include the Virtual Console). If that's not an option, then just go with the PS4. No point in getting a Gamecube just for Wind Waker and possibly Twilight Princess (if you plan on getting the other games on the system, though, then it is definitely worth it). Besides, missing out on Zelda is hardly the end of the world. It is a very popular and classic franchise, but I'd wouldn't say you have to play it to have any respect.
 

The Crispy Tiger

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Eclipse Dragon said:
The Crispy Tiger said:
B. Get a gaming computer, Emulate the shit out of old Nintendo games from the NES Era all the way to the Early Wii
No because, unless you purchase those games you plan to emulate, it's illegal.


What, if a game gets really old, I believe you can get it once the company isn't making money off it for new sales. I don't know I'm not a law expert. Someone can tell me if I'm wrong or not.
 

The Crispy Tiger

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Saelune said:
Well one, buying a Gamecube isn't as much a hassle as you make it seem. If you go that route, buy Windwaker. Could also try to find a N64 and play Ocarina, since that's where a large portion of Zelda fans came from.

Or get a 3DS, then you can get Ocarina 3D, as well as classic NES/SNES Zelda games on the virtual store or Club Nintendo if you earn the coins. (I have the original Zelda and Link's Awakening installed on mine)
I tried buying a gamecube before and it was a hassle doing it through Amazon. But you're probably right. I might get a Wii/3ds and get all of that stuff for and more there like Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time, A Link Between Worlds, Windwaker HD... Ok I'm sold.
 

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The Crispy Tiger said:
Eclipse Dragon said:
The Crispy Tiger said:
B. Get a gaming computer, Emulate the shit out of old Nintendo games from the NES Era all the way to the Early Wii
No because, unless you purchase those games you plan to emulate, it's illegal.


What, if a game gets really old, I believe you can get it once the company isn't making money off it for new sales. I don't know I'm not a law expert. Someone can tell me if I'm wrong or not.
Unfortunately it applies even to old games. Nintendo likes to put those old games on their virtual console, which means they're still making money off of them. Even if they were just sitting on an IP and you never saw it again, it would still be illegal.
 

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Pink Gregory said:
Saelune said:
Pink Gregory said:
Not much point buying a console for just one game, but then again obtaining a Gamecube is probably cheaper than buying a gaming PC, but there's more advantages to the latter.

I don't know how rare it's become now, but there's a special edition of Wind Waker that comes with Ocarina of Time on a seperate disc. Might be your best bet.
Buying a console for "one game" is just the entry game. I got a 360 just for Oblivion, but I eventually got a very large library for it. I got a PS2 for Vice City, and again, large library, etc.
Well, you're not wrong, I can say that.
Well, buying a console literally for one game (and never more than that one game) would then be a waste, but I don't see why most people willing to buy a console would do that. Its a lot of fun when I get a new console and have a new world of games open to me. Like when I got a Wii U, 3DS, and PS3. Was even better for me when I got the Wii U and 3DS cause I never owned a Wii or DS, and my first few games for both were old ones. (Backwards compatibility is a GOOD thing...)
 

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Eclipse Dragon said:
The Crispy Tiger said:
Eclipse Dragon said:
The Crispy Tiger said:
B. Get a gaming computer, Emulate the shit out of old Nintendo games from the NES Era all the way to the Early Wii
No because, unless you purchase those games you plan to emulate, it's illegal.


What, if a game gets really old, I believe you can get it once the company isn't making money off it for new sales. I don't know I'm not a law expert. Someone can tell me if I'm wrong or not.
Unfortunately it applies even to old games. Nintendo likes to put those old games on their virtual console, which means they're still making money off of them. Even if they were just sitting on an IP and you never saw it again, it would still be illegal.
In the case of Zelda it is indeed illegal. Crispy Tiger may be thinking of abandonware - which can open up due to the rights "vaporizing" over time. For example imagine when THQ went under, no one bought the rights to "Darksiders" and Vigil Games went out of business unable to sell the rights. Darksiders is then floating in the marketplace with no rights owners really. It would essentially be an IP the industry didn't protect. However, Zelda is nowhere near that status and probably never will be. But that may help clear up some of the confusion. Games don't become abandonware because they are old and not being made for the new consoles, it has more to do with no one (who matters) owning them and being able to really distribute them.
 

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First of all, yes you NEED to try Zelda games right now! Here are a few ways that you can play a lot of them without getting several consoles.

Get a Wii, you'll be able to play almost every Zelda game except for half of the games thanks to Virtual Console. You can get Zelda 1, 2, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask via Virtual Console, and Wind Waker, Four Swords Adventures, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword via backwards compatibility.

To get most of the ones missed by getting the Wii, you can get the 3DS. Plus, you can get Ocarina of Time 3D, A Link Between Worlds, the two Oracle games, Link's Awakening, the original Four Swords on the E shop, along with Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks via backwards compatibility.

Just please don't Pick option C! D:
 

Arnoxthe1

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You know, I'd just save up for an N64. They cost nothing these days. However, the controller and games... It really depends. You can always just order everything online but you can find some really good local deals sometimes.
 

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The Crispy Tiger said:
So, SHIT. I have never played a Zelda game. EVER. I really want to get into it. But I can't. My computer can't run 3d games so the only thing I can do is get a NES emulator. If it wouldn't break my computer! So now I want to get into Zelda but I don't own a Nintendo console, nor can I actually use an emulator. DAMN IT. Why does trying to get into Nintendo got to be so hard! This is worse then when I tried to get into the Dreamcast! Should I,

A. Save up for Gamecube, A Old Tv, and Trying To Find All The Cables that go with the GameCube, and of course Nintendo Games

B. Get a gaming computer, Emulate the shit out of old Nintendo games from the NES Era all the way to the Early Wii

OR C.

Save up for a PlayStation 4 and tell Nintendo to go fuck itself.

Those are my options. Help me out guys.
Why can't your current computer run NES-emulators? They're not very taxing.
 

NoeL

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Seriously dude, go down to your local pawn shop and pick up a second hand Wii (make sure it's a model with Gamecube compatibility - there's a flap on the top covering circular Gamecube controller ports and memory card slots). They're dirt cheap and will give you access to the entire Zelda console library. You can get the NES, SNES and N64 games on Virtual Console, and natively play the GC and Wii titles. Plus, you get access to an amazing library of Gamecube, Wii AND many many older console games through VC, which is well worth the 40 or so bucks it'll cost to grab a Wii console.
 

Shoggoth2588

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ya know...you can use a gamecube on newer TVs...maybe not newer but I got a new TV in 2007 which is perfectly happy playing not only the Gamecube but also SNES and even the NES.

Anyway, you can find some of the Gamecube games for cheapish then get digital versions of the NES/SNES/GB/GBC Zelda games via virtual console. There's an option for ya.
 

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Eclipse Dragon said:
The Crispy Tiger said:
B. Get a gaming computer, Emulate the shit out of old Nintendo games from the NES Era all the way to the Early Wii
No because, unless you purchase those games you plan to emulate, it's illegal.

A. Save up for Gamecube, A Old Tv, and Trying To Find All The Cables that go with the GameCube, and of course Nintendo Games
Why not a Wii instead? There are two Zelda games on that system, and the virtual console, which will give you access to most of the others, plus it's backwards compatible, so it's also a Gamecube.
The current Wii models are not backwards compatible, so you'd have to buy an old one. Of course this isn't hard and maybe it's cheaper but it might not seem worth it.
 

Mylinkay Asdara

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There are plenty of Nintendo old-machine things around - try Think Geek.com or places like it - that play the old cartridges and hook up to now-a-days TVs as far as I know. You could try one of those. Or you could probably buy an old system on the fairly cheap, they aren't true antiques yet.

Try your local library too, some of the more progressive ones in and around my area have these for borrowing - systems and all - as part of their media files collections.