Zero Punctuation: Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs

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daveman247

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TheKrigeron said:
There's more comments about people requesting Gta than the actual Requests. Seriously, Some Escapist members really need to tone down the Hipsteria

So... I'm glad he didn't review Gta V this week, that means he isn't rushing it (which is good).

OT: not getting near this game with a 10 foot (feet?) poll, or any horror game for that matter due to that Terrific but Terrifying game, Tomb Raider.
Tomb raider was scary? :L
 

Nurb

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I'm surprised he liked it despite its lack of horror

Chaosritter said:
Well, when in doubt, there are still plenty of custom stories for the original Amnesia.

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Is there nowhere I can go to avoid that guy?? I clicked on part of an Outlast playthrough, making sure not to select THAT guy, but he's swarming my reccomendations no matter what.
 

Nurb

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Chaosritter said:
Nurb said:
Is there nowhere I can go to avoid that guy?? I clicked on part of an Outlast playthrough, making sure not to select THAT guy, but he's swarming my reccomendations no matter what.
Haven't seen anything from him besides that Amnesia walkthrough. Should I know about him?
watch anyone's gameplay walkthroughs for any length of time and you'll learn allllll about him
 

tehweave

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He was kinder to it than I thought he was going to be. I was fully prepared for him to rip it to shreds. It's nice to see someone else liked it.
 

Geo Da Sponge

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ironballs16 said:
I think one of the things that bears mentioning is just how incredible the voice-acting work is in comparison to the first one. Granted, pretty much anything would be a step up, but the VA for "The Engineer" puts a LOT of emotion behind his performance. Case-in-point, the last two bits of soundtrack: SPOILERS AHOY!
Jesus, that first monologue in that video, it's just... Wow. That practically wants me to get the game all by itself, because that was amazing.
 

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charliesbass said:
With my astounding powers of precognition, I can predict the main topic of discussion in this thread:

"WHERE'S GTA5"
"WHY AREN'T YOU REVIEWING GTA5"
"GTA PLZ"
"#BOYCOTT"
Totally needs to do Outlast next.


More survival horror.
 

GloatingSwine

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What? Game made by The Chinese Room in not a lot of gameplay shocker? Who could have predicted that?
 

Azure Knight-Zeo

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Kinda reminds me of the 3DS game, The Starship Damrey. *Spoilers* It started off scary when every time I turn around I expected a scare, but after a while you realize a fatal flaw with the game:
THERE ARE NO ENEMIES!
Fortunately, as soon as I realized that, the game was over. It's a shame because it had the right atmosphere, some good scares, a good twist ending, and a genuinely funny moment.
 

BarrelsOfDouche

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Brilliant. I liked the game too...just not as much as The Dark Descent.

But, like you said...so far even at their worst, Frictional's games (Amnesia and Penumbra) remain loads scarier than other games on the market...

And that load I mentioned earlier is measured in dirty cr*p stained adult diapers. In fact, playing either of the Amnesia titles is a pretty accurate way to measure incontinence.
 

Evil Smurf

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So I might pick up this game now.
varmintx said:
Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha, charade you are
And when your hand is on your heart
You're nearly a good laugh
Almost a joker
With your head down in the pig bin
Saying "keep on digging"
Pig stain on your fat chin
What do you hope to find?
When you're down in the pig mine
You're nearly a laugh
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.
Now I'm gonna put on some Pink Floyd.
 

Spider RedNight

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warfjm said:
I wonder if Yahtzee will play Outlast. I know a lot of big name Youtubers are playing it now. The consensus seems to be that "Outlast" is better and more scary than "Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs." The mechanics of Outlast is innovative at least.
I watched a Let's Player play through both Outlast and A Machine for Pigs but Outlast, to me, was MUCH more frightening though I won't say AMFP wasn't GOOD. The mechanics were very impressive and the environment was gripping. I'M never gonna play it (I live the life of an eternally broke individual) but I think it'd be cool if Yahtzee decided to play it on a whim

OT: I'm glad he "liked" it and I agree with what he was saying; it DID have a good story for what it was worth (though it got JUST a bit confusing there for a few moments)
 

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LoathsomePete said:
... While I quite enjoyed the story of A Machine For Pigs, thechineseroom cut down so much gameplay that I really didn't find myself reveling in the game like I had been anticipating since the damn thing was announced in 2011. I kind of hope someone mods in limited resources later down the line so I can go at it again.
Quite the opposite, actually. Machine was a very modest concept at the beginning, and its highly likely that Frictional urged them to expand on the original concept. [Possibly adding the journey back into the machine?] Machine actually missed an original deadline - with Frictional's blessing - with the disclaimer that they wouldn't release a game that isn't finished.

Of all the games that Yahtzee didn't check the wiki, this was the worst one. Although, even the "official" account of the plot seems to me to be dead wrong in places. The fairest thing to say about it is that TCR was so overanxious to use metaphor, that the resultant narrative was confusing and disjoint.

The *GOOD* news is that while TCR was doing this, Frictional Games have been working on a completely different game, whose name and release date are not yet available.

Go! Go! Gadget sphincter!
 

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Lovely Mixture said:
Different people want different things, we can both agree on that right?

If you bought a shooting game, and 99% of the game was racing. That'd be quite annoying right?

Or say you bought a racing game, and there was only 10% racing.

Distinction helps prevent confusion. People who want gameplay can be less worried about their purchases, people who want their interactive stories can buy them with ease.
I think my problem is that Dear Esther and, say, Bioshock: Infinite are the same thing in the same way that Eraserhead, The Godfather, and The Fast and the Furious are the same thing. There is a benefit to the art itself to have all of those as part of the same basic category: film. Sure, the writing is lacking in Fast, but I guess it has cool effects or something. Some movies don't have a real "plot", but that doesn't mean they aren't movies. It's not a problem to call all of those movies. Nobody goes to see Fast and comes out annoyed that it didn't address the basic impossiblities of communication in absurd world.

If you want such a strict definiton of "video game" you'll need to come up with some new word to describe the art as a whole. It's absolutely vital to discussion of gaming to be able to consider Dear Esther and Super Mario Bros. at the same time. There's no reason to come up with this phrase since "video games" already is the overwhelmingly accepted name. If you want to break "video game" down into various categories like "racing game" and "shooting game", that's fine.
 

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Sounds good, hopefully will not be too many "let's plays" of it to ruin it.

Yahtzee is going over to the USA to the Escapist Expo next week so that is probably the reason he has not had the time to play GTA V yet and probably won't until afterwards either.
 

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Machine for Pigs was never going to live up to Dark Decent; it was a smash hit out of nowhere & it's real hard to do that twice

Search your feelings, you know it to be true

But hey, if all the "Dear Amnesia" rants are being overly critical (which they very likely were/are), I'll pick up a copy
 

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canadamus_prime said:
So.... did you like it? I'm a little unclear on that. I can usually tell, but on this one I'm a little unclear.
He said he liked the playthrough, but looking back feels that the game was not as good as it felt. In other words it's fun to play, but doesn't have replay-ability and lacks the the quality of the first one on the whole.
 

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EHKOS said:
That image of that thing with it's jaw stapled to it's kneecaps actually scared me for a second....
Same here; it's one of the most disturbing things I've seen in a zero punctuation. And that's including the time he had that scary horror movie moment in his Little Big Planet review.

OT: I'm glad to finally hear that someone liked this game; especially since my own gaming tastes usually parallel Yahtzee's. I've enjoyed a number of things from The Chinese Room, and the first Amnesia scares me so much I've barely played it; looking forward to getting A Machine for Pigs on the next Steam sale.

Gotta remember to put a tarp over the furniture beforehand, though.
 

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Clovus said:
I think my problem is that Dear Esther and, say, Bioshock: Infinite are the same thing in the same way that Eraserhead, The Godfather, and The Fast and the Furious are the same thing. There is a benefit to the art itself to have all of those as part of the same basic category: film. Sure, the writing is lacking in Fast, but I guess it has cool effects or something. Some movies don't have a real "plot", but that doesn't mean they aren't movies. It's not a problem to call all of those movies. Nobody goes to see Fast and comes out annoyed that it didn't address the basic impossiblities of communication in absurd world.
But those all have something in common. You watch them, they require no input from you and are moving pictures with sound.

The input required for Dear Esther, Gone Home, or AMFP is minimal.


Clovus said:
If you want such a strict definiton of "video game" you'll need to come up with some new word to describe the art as a whole. It's absolutely vital to discussion of gaming to be able to consider Dear Esther and Super Mario Bros. at the same time.
Well technically there already is, they're computer generated media/work

Clovus said:
There's no reason to come up with this phrase since "video games" already is the overwhelmingly accepted name.
There's at least the need for distinction.

Clovus said:
If you want to break "video game" down into various categories like "racing game" and "shooting game", that's fine.
True. How about unlaborious games or non-inputive games?
 

DJShire

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Maybe I missed it, but it seems we missed the most important question: why was the terrier at that sex orgy?