Zero Punctuation: Battlefield 3

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GeorgW

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I would have liked his thoughts on the rat, and some mention of the coop would have been nice, but oh well. It'd be fun with a MW3 vs BF3 video in the vain of Prototype vs infamous.
 

FinalHeart95

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I saw some videos of the campaign, and it's far too similar to the Modern Warfare games for my liking.
Bad Company 1 at least had a sense of humor to it.
 

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Despair not, Yahtzee, less than a week remains before Saints Row the Third, which will probably be a bigger island in a sea of turds than Resistance 3 was.
 

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Ah good critique as always! :D

Agree on all fronts for that retarded generic Single Player.

At the least the Multiplayer gives you a bit more freedom to dick around than the COD series :D
 

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While I do actually agree with a lot of Yahtzee's points in this review, I still love this game to bits. Why? One word: multiplayer.

And if you think that it's just like "Call of Duty"'s multiplayer - i.e. a paintball match filled with overpowered weapons, perks, killstreaks and screaming 12-year-olds - then you're wrong. It's nothing like that. Skill actually matters in this game's multiplayer. Yes, the singleplayer was a huge letdown, but I can't really mark the game down much for that when the multiplayer is this good.

Oh, and for all of you who might have bought the game just for its campaign only to be disappointed: You know that this is a "Battlefield" game, right? You DO know that, right? Yes, EA/DICE might have said that singleplayer is just as important as multiplayer, but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a FUCKING "BATTLEFIELD" GAME!!!
 

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Rarhnor said:
I like how all the people here, are going on about, how it's multiplayer-focused. A game shouldn't have to excuse itself for it's singleplayer, nor should I, or anyone for that matter, pay $60 for the multiplayer alone. TF2 didn't even cost that much, and it's even gone F2P.

Does anyone remember, when Croshaw reviewed Halo 3, and said a game should be able to stand on singleplayer alone? People rejoiced and threw their top hats into the air in pure joy, but somehow, this is different? Somehow, BF3 is excused?
Thank you, couldn't have said it better myself. Honestly I'm glad he tore into the singleplayer. From the ads I saw of BF3, all I really saw was the singleplayer campaign. So if I didn't know anything about the Battlefield series, and I only like playing singleplayer, I might have bought it. Seriously the community on this site contradicts themselves more than Yahtzee.
 

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That invisible wall part got me so. Many. Times. So retarded. I'm surprised he didn't mention the several points where you could follow a street till it ended, and walk OFF the map. Looks like the out-of-bounds guy fell down on the job. Regardless, intense and engrossing campaign, although the multiplayer is far better.
 

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Hawkraider said:
Any game is better playing with friends or the like. Hell, tetris is better with another person. You cant get as much enjoyment shooting an in-animate object as you could shooting your friend (lol) add a gun and online multiplayer to Dynasty warriors and will it get a 10? no, but it would certainly boost the score. (The single player would be crap as expected but you get to shoot your friends in feudal china woohoo! -.-;)
Yathzee believes in playing with friends he just believes in having your friends next to you so you can punch them in the face for when they mess a campaign up. Playing with people who are more or less strangers with bad manners that you can't reprimand is something he considers a hindrance to the gaming experience.
 

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Hawkraider said:
Any game is better playing with friends or the like. Hell, tetris is better with another person. You cant get as much enjoyment shooting an in-animate object as you could shooting your friend (lol) add a gun and online multiplayer to Dynasty warriors and will it get a 10? no, but it would certainly boost the score. (The single player would be crap as expected but you get to shoot your friends in feudal china woohoo! -.-;)
I can think of a couple games that would only be hurt by Mutiplayer. Off the top of my head, Amnesia: The Dark Descent.
 

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uberhippy said:
Why must we have the next in the streek of brown-Grey shooters,,,

We should have a technicolour, fantasical shooter, you know,, one thats fun?? :)
We have one: Halo.

Anyways, I wouldn't call Battlefield a brown/grey shooter. It's pretty colorful, actually, but it's hard to tell from a firefly burning it's silloute into your retina due to the bloom.

I really think Yahtzee needs to start treating multiplayer as a part of the game, and not having the two be mutuality exclusive. I understand he does this most of the time due to the type of people you often see in multiplayer, but battlefield especially has entire communties that revolve around polite and strategical play.

And yes, that last part annoyed the hell out of me too.
 

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I could understand Yahtzee not playing multiplayer years ago, but now it just seems ridiculous. Especially in a game like this which no matter what it's stupid publisher says is very much Multiplayer centered.

Didn't watch.
 

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OhJohnNo said:
The facebook comments on this video are funny. So many people think they're clever for agreeing with Yahtzee.
Lol yea i know what you mean, the internet is full of up your arse "intellects" though. This site is getting a little more like that these days.

OT: I realise Yatzee has some retarded rules when it comes to reviewing games but this one was kind of annoying. There really isn't any point reviewing the singleplayer here.
 

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Wow, the tears of butthurt Battlefield fanboys are delicious.

They're the ones who said the SP was as important as the MP, comrades.
Your post indicates you lack knowledge of the context surrounding this game and you make an impossible assumption in order to get across your snarky disdain for a game you no doubt do not appreciate. I've read through several anti-BF3 posts on this thread but only yours made me sick enough to actually reply.

How can you possibly say that the BF3 fanboys as a collective said that SP was as important as MP, especially when that line was spouted out by EA marketing. I'm a BF3 "fan" and I'm male but I think the SP campaign can take a long walk off a short pier and I've had this opinion since Bad Company 2. Bad Company was actually funny in some ways but BC2 was too serious with their idiotic "Scalar weapon technology".

You thinking butthurt-ness is delicious is highly abnormal and indicates that you may be someone who has been slighted by BF3 "fanboys" attacking a favoured game of yours such as CoD and as such are getting some kind of schaden-freude from Yachtzee doing what he always does, attacking games at their weakest points.

To everyone in this thread who has not already noticed this, Yachtzee is not a reviewer of games. He is a commentator and a determinedly negative one at that. The only thing separating him from those on youtube who troll games for views is that he is good at it. That is why I watch his show.
 

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makes you wonder how come he even reviewed team fortress 2 or the coop for fear 3 ...sorry f3ar...
i havent played BF3 because of origin, but i know that the MP is the main factor of this game. and i think we all know that he will review with MW3 the SP only.
i have played few levels of the SP of MW3 and well, its a simple run and shoot stuff. wile the MP is actually really fun, fairly well balanced with the perks and what you can switch free for the weapons. at least you have to use this specific weapon and not just level up your character just to switch free new stuff for the weapon.
 

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Yes, lets take a multiplayer focused game and review it as a single player shooter.

Next thing you know, CS:GO will be reviewed in a bot round.
 

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cmdrmonkey said:
Absolutely no one buys Battlefield games for the single player. You're probably the only person on the planet who even played it Yahtzee.
Funny you should say that, because my friend (who pre-ordered, no less) played through the single player twice in the first week or so he had the game. Although that probably has more to do with the multiplayer not even bloody working for him that whole time. FPS games have been doing the whole internet multiplayer thing for what, 15 years or so? You'd think studios would have that shit sorted by now.
 

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thirion1850 said:
Yes, lets take a multiplayer focused game and review it as a single player shooter.
Well, EA did take a multiplayer focused game and market it as a single player shooter.

And the singleplayer does suck all the balls.
 

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If DICE didn't want their single player to be criticized then they shouldn't have made it in the first place. EA certainly seemed to think the single player part of the game was good because a great deal of the advertising for the game was about it.

Single player campaigns need to be of a certain quality if they are going to be release it to the market, I assure you if the multiplayer had been as half-assed as the story mode was people wouldn't be so quick to defend Battlefield 3. The game shouldn't be half price because it is a multiplayer focused game, it should be half priced because the whole package isn't of the utmost quality. Single player games are worth 60 dollars too, it isn't about the quantity of the content but the quality.
 

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That_Sneaky_Camper said:
If DICE didn't want their single player to be criticized then they shouldn't have made it in the first place. EA certainly seemed to think the single player part of the game was good because a great deal of the advertising for the game was about it.

Single player campaigns need to be of a certain quality if they are going to be release it to the market, I assure you if the multiplayer had been as half-assed as the story mode was people wouldn't be so quick to defend Battlefield 3. The game shouldn't be half price because it is a multiplayer focused game, it should be half priced because the whole package isn't of the utmost quality. Single player games are worth 60 dollars too, it isn't about the quantity of the content but the quality.
Multiplayer has always been and will always be far more important to the "Battlefield" series than the campaign. It has always been a multiplayer-first game. Only this game and the "Bad Company" series have had singleplayer campaigns. But the multiplayer in this game is just SOOOOOOOOOO damn good! Therefore, I do love this game VERY much, despite actually agreeing with most of the stuff Yahtzee says in this review.

I don't know about the console versions, though. I have heard that they aren't as good.
 

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"From our prescription medication we have a weird yellow something creature hanging from the ceiling"" . Har...har?

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR! YOU ARE HILARIOUS CROSHAW. Seriously. Get a life, Croshaw. More than normal. And I mean this even more every time I watch one of your reviews. Your shtick is old now.