Zero Punctuation: Brutal Legend
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RTS not manly?A1 said:
Your telling other men what to do, because your superior. They know you to be some sort of Man-God yelling at them, telling them they are dirt, while they have to fight your battle, why? Because your having to much sex to kill them yourself. And these men don't want to work for you, but they also know if they don't they'll be next on your hit-list, which happens to be very short, why? Because your a badass. Now, tell me a RTS isn't manly.
I really do not see the problem with the RTS elements in the game... No, really I don't!LooK iTz Jinjo said:
Thankyou, Yahtzee. You've summed up my exact feelings on the game. Loved Psychonauts, thought this game was an awkward, unfocused mess.
Snowalker said:
I never said that RTS wasn't manly. I merely said that it doesn't SEEM TO fit in to the "manly" category VERY WELL. Stereotypically speaking "manly" is defined by the physical as opposed to the mental, or in other words action as opposed to thought. Therefore it would seem that anything that requires more thought than action isn't particularly compatible with the conventional view of "manliness".
RTS generally puts more emphasis on thought while hack-and-slash action obviously puts more emphasis on action. Maybe there are ways to blend action and thought effectively but it would seem that trying to blend hack-and-slash with RTS isn't a very good way to do it. To make matters worse the RTS aspect of Brutal Legend is lacking as pointed out in Yahtzee's review. On top of that that fact that Brutal Legend allows you to personally jump into the action makes the whole RTS aspect seem at least somewhat pointless. I think the whole RTS element would have been better left out altogether.
I need to make sure that I understand.
The player personally participates in the battle, and has only one strategic option (i.e, CHARGE). Yet, the mere necessity of summoning soldiers brand this an RTS? seriously, the hordes sound more like a fun backdrop for the battles more then anything.
The player personally participates in the battle, and has only one strategic option (i.e, CHARGE). Yet, the mere necessity of summoning soldiers brand this an RTS? seriously, the hordes sound more like a fun backdrop for the battles more then anything.
Wait.. what? Yes you did. You said: "Then of course comes along RTS and while I have nothing against RTS it doesn't really seem to fit into the "manly" category very well."A1 said:
Again.. you said: "Then of course comes along RTS and while I have nothing against RTS it doesn't really seem to fit into the "manly" category very well."
So... in conclusion, you said RTS wasn't manly.. because... "Then of course comes along RTS and while I have nothing against RTS it doesn't really seem to fit into the "manly" category very well."
I dunno, I guess I thought it was funny.. because the other guy made me laugh.
Lies and slander. I was following the Iraq from the beginning. The UN inspections were a complete sham. For all we knew the WMDs were moved from one location to another right under their noses. When we brought up the integrity of these investigations the US was shot down by the very people who set them up. Than suddenly Sadam destroys some nukes which he did not have. Also keep in mind that this man was on record for gassing his own people which requires biological warfare and broke 17 UN resolutions beforehand. He was not to be trusted. Do not believe in this political propaganda about how George Bush was a complete idiot and a criminal mastermind at the same time. It is utter rubbish.Tmcmistress said:
runtheplacered said:
I was hoping I wouldn't have to explain this because it's a bit tedious.
SEEM TO = It looks that way but that could be wrong.
VERY WELL = It might fit in but not as well as other stuff.
Saying that something doesn't SEEM TO fit into a category VERY WELL leaves the issue open to debate and other possibities. You're not really taking a position but simply making an observation. Whereas simply saying something doesn't fit into a category leaves no room for other possibilities or debate. One is then taking a position and resisting other viewpoints. It's essentially having an open mind versus having a narrow mind. Or so it would seem anyway.
I really liked Brutal Legend but when it started to be like an RTS I did not expect that, I like to play RTSes sometimes but not when I don't know it is one when Im buying the game, when I was buying it I thought it was a hack and slash with some driving element. Its not so much the game its more of what the commericals said it was and its something different from what it said it was.
Its like when your opening christmas presents you wanted a puppy all year and you hear a puppy barking on the inside but when you open the gift its a cat, which is not that bad but its still not what you wanted or expected
Its like when your opening christmas presents you wanted a puppy all year and you hear a puppy barking on the inside but when you open the gift its a cat, which is not that bad but its still not what you wanted or expected
Dear Yatzeh,
how refreshing that you decided not to merely shit all over Bruuutal Legends. Oh, that's exactly what you did, pretty. At least there's always the Al Gore Carbon Tax for PROFIT [http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009/10/is-obama-poised-to-cede-us-sovereignty.html] scandal to make us wish You The People were as collectively critical.
how refreshing that you decided not to merely shit all over Bruuutal Legends. Oh, that's exactly what you did, pretty. At least there's always the Al Gore Carbon Tax for PROFIT [http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009/10/is-obama-poised-to-cede-us-sovereignty.html] scandal to make us wish You The People were as collectively critical.
I'm pretty sure the comment was a reference to the text at the end of the video where Yahtzee claims to have studied German (and refuses to let an umlaut go unpronounced). The problem with trying to be smart-arse is if your not smart you just end being an arsehole...Reuq said:
good one.
Everyone and their mom seems to be griping about the RTS disguised as a hacknslash issue. I too was duped by the demo I downloaded and thought the game nothing more than an average HnS with jack black starring as jack black in a jack black production (and I fucking hate Jack Black, so that was already major points against it).
I uninstalled the demo and thought nothing else of it ever again until seeing some reviews.
Good points about the whole sandbox trend too. Not a complete fan of it. Most of the time it wreaks of a lack of original ideas and good writing to make a compelling linear storyline.
Everyone and their mom seems to be griping about the RTS disguised as a hacknslash issue. I too was duped by the demo I downloaded and thought the game nothing more than an average HnS with jack black starring as jack black in a jack black production (and I fucking hate Jack Black, so that was already major points against it).
I uninstalled the demo and thought nothing else of it ever again until seeing some reviews.
Good points about the whole sandbox trend too. Not a complete fan of it. Most of the time it wreaks of a lack of original ideas and good writing to make a compelling linear storyline.