Zero Punctuation: Call of Duty 4

madblader

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Great work!

You should really consider saying something about the online gameplay. It is a huge incentive for FPS fans seeing that multiplayer is the only thing persuading us to buy it instead of just renting it.
 

LarsWestergren

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FireDaemon said:
CoD4 shouldn't have been reviewed. For starters its been reviewed to death and nearly everyone knows about it (everyone being the halo fanboys who pick on its every problem and the CoD fanboys who praise every little bit of greatness).
I disagree, it was good he reviewed it, this is why I started watching Zero Punctuation in the first place, because he is a critical curmudgeon with high standards.

Even though I generally don't like mainstream gaming culture, I suspected that there had to be SOMETHING good about a game that was loved by so many and won so many awards. However, whenever I read reviews it was as usual only about the goddamn shiny graphics, the Frames Per Second, how good it was compared to earlier games in the series, and how awesome all the pew pew pew stuff was. No mentioning of any possible gameplay flaws, no mention of whether it had any plot to speak of, something that made me suspect that it was in fact reviewed by the fanboys you mentioned earlier. Also I suspected that it would be full of flag-waving and "war is so totally cool" attitudes, something that turns me off any game or movie no matter how good it is otherwise.

Yahtzee got straight to the point of all these things, and amused me in the meantime. I may actually buy this game after all, I will at least give the demo a (second, honest,) try. This even got me over the smoldering resentment I had over the hatchet job he did of the Witcher review. ;)
 

ZippyDSMlee

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not played it yet not my gametype but its in my cue list.

As for his comments over the army people...he's making humor people you don't have to dissect every lil comment.
 

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nilpferdkoenig said:
conqueror Kenny said:
:(am i the only person in the wold that doesnt like this game
Yes, you are :)


One thing could have been improved however. The short image where you see that line, comparing the greatness of CoD 4 to Jesus and Portal, I think that instead of "CoD4-Portal-Jesus" it should have been "CoD4-Jesus-Portal", I thought that that would have been funnier.
no he's not
 

RaDeus

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the only thing that buggs me about this review is that yatzee dosnt seem to understand that the war in unspecifiedstan is a diversion so the yanks are to busy to help the "good" russians in their little civalwar.

so the game is really about russia and not the middle-east.
 

Benny Blanco

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liberalfascism said:
How surprising that Yahtzee not only imbues this review with his cookie-cutter political diatribe, but also finds the most impressive part of the game to be - shock! - the worst part.

What is his favorite part? The part that has no gameplay! The part that is such a ridiculous, ham-handed, pointless waste of gamer time in the service of pushing a moronic 'message'. We're talking of course about the idiotic 30-second stumble around dying scene, which Zero claims 'made the game good'. How does not being able to do anything make a game good? That was easily the most ridiculous part of this game - talk about hitting someone over the head with a message. Calling this the best part of the game is about as reasonable as complaining about 'jingoism' in a military shooter.

The rest of his review is just his stereotypical insecure America-hating nonsense. The US Marines don't "cock everything up", they actually carry out most of the fight, which is a reflection of reality. And the British don't "fix everything from behind", they engage in sapper missions and clear some paths but otherwise are just doing soldier work like everybody else.

Makes you wonder what plane of reality this guy lives in. Doesn't matter what he plays, he has this preset 'jingoism bad America suck I'm so cynical and cool' mantra that he has to repeat, even when the game doesn't have anything to trigger that tired little rant.
Not everyone likes the same things in games, I'm sure Yahtzee felt this was a refreshing change from the usual nigh-unkillable characters in FPS games, as well as the message which you found so offensive. (although admittedly, anyone who doesn't know that nuclear weapons are generally undesirable and cause long-term harm and damage even to survivors is probably too stupid to own a computer)

Also, 30 seconds, in terms of a whole game, cannot reasonably be described as "a ridiculous, ham-handed, pointless waste of gamer time". Compared to the godawful platformer section in Max Payne where you follow a trail of blood with a looped soundtrack of a baby crying, or indeed, any of the fetch object X from location Y to numpty NPC Z missions in RPGs, it's a miniscule amount of time, vaguely equivalent to a cutscene.

As for the jingoism thing and your spirited defence of your countrymen in the military, maybe the reason I feel these words are hollow bleating, roughly equivalent to the labelling of rational, critical thought about the actions of your government being considered "unpatriotic" is that I'm British too, and we have a long history of Americans coming into a war late, or dragging us into a war, which our leaders allowed through some sense of misguided loyalty or an expectation of some kind of quid pro quo, or blowing us up because of bad intel and twitchy trigger fingers AND THEN ACTING AS IF THEY WON ALL BY THEMSELVES.

The USMC and other branches of the US Armed Forces are no doubt brave and patriotic individuals, but they have been involved in some proper Charlie Foxtrots in the past, with the tendency to approach wars by throwing resources (money, tech, ammunition, young impressionable men and women) at a problem until it disappears. Since the end of WWII, when Britain was damn-near bankrupt, our Armed forces have had to make the best of the resources they have. The SAS are world-renowned amongst the world's special forces for precisely this reason. They also tend to be comparatively quiet individuals, unlike the hoo-rah marines.

People don't dislike America because they're insecure, or because they hate your freedom. There are dozens of good reasons, economic, cultural and political, for which someone might want to see you all perish. I don't, because I know enough Americans to know they aren't all mouth-breathing SUV driving 'tards who love guns and fake tits.
 

m_jim

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It seems that for the more "political" reviews, everyone pulls out their historian hat and proceeds to lecture the rest of the internet on how stuff really went down. I can't say it's not tempting, but can't we all just hold hands with the triple-****ed hooker, sing Kumbaya and get along?
 

HuCast

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As long as Yahtzee is an "aussie" with a "british" accent who reviews games with american soldiers in it? Forget it! All the trigger happy guys crawl out of their holes and cry conspiracy! ;)
 

xithrix

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very funny review for a good game...

now review Final Fantasy

:p

we should all ask Y to review a JRPG, it will probably be very funny =D
 

Allan Foe

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Benny Blanco said:
People don't dislike America because they're insecure, or because they hate your freedom. There are dozens of good reasons, economic, cultural and political, for which someone might want to see you all perish. I don't, because I know enough Americans to know they aren't all mouth-breathing SUV driving 'tards who love guns and fake tits.
It's possible that while replying to liberalfascism I've made my self look more of a prick than I actually am (wish to appear). Apparently Benny Blanco has better grasp of rhetorics, but I'd like to note that not so many A-haters would like to see USA actually "perish" from the face of the earth. Most even agree that America has a few nice things too *sarcasm*

HuCast said:
As long as Yahtzee is an "aussie" with a "british" accent who reviews games with american soldiers in it? Forget it! All the trigger happy guys crawl out of their holes and cry conspiracy! ;)
Hey it's not just some [finger quotes]british accent[/finger quotes], it's quite authentic.

xithrix said:
we should all ask Y to review a JRPG, it will probably be very funny =D
You just like to see people getting pissy over trivial matters, don't you?
 

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m_jim said:
It seems that for the more "political" reviews, everyone pulls out their historian hat and proceeds to lecture the rest of the internet on how stuff really went down. I can't say it's not tempting, but can't we all just hold hands with the triple-****ed hooker, sing Kumbaya and get along?
Amen.

Also, at the risk of impalement, No More Heroes?
 

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In Reply to xithrix:

And I thought Yatzee made it clear in this review that he doesn't like to be told how to do his job, obviously you didn't listened...

It was better when he reviewed the games he wanted to review, I think that Yatzee was not even happy when he was making this review.

But oh well, people will ignore this post and they will still post what games Yatzee should review till he accepts...
 

Allan Foe

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How about NOT reviewing a GAME for a change? Now, stay with me on this one.

Remember the console rundown [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1383-Zero-Punctuation-Console-Rundown], that one was entertaining and insightful. So how about taking a brake from reviewing games?
 

renard

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Hey hey! I've got an idea for a review! How about shuting up and let Yatzhee chose?
Maybe we will save us all those "oh yatzhee, this is dissapointing! this time you liked the game and you weren't as acid as always!" rants.
 

raefon

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Awsome game, with some down points and your review hits these on the head.

Again freaking well done.

It is dissapponting to hear that COD 5 will be going back to the screwed up COD 3 team and you guessed it they are wacking out the WW II hear we go again mentallity. They get it right then say fuck everyone we know better that you paying game playing scum.
 

Gisgo Elim

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":(am i the only person in the wold that doesnt like this game" @ Conqueror Kenny.

No I kinda didn't like the game because I wanted the teamwork based game Call of Duty promised from the first game and though this game is more squad based then its predecessors I still felt rather isolated during marine missions and later on SAS mission. I also felt compelled to be a perfectionist in that if I got shot too much it didn't make sense that I survived and though that may seem nit-picky thats the way I want to play which is impossible so I can't really enjoy the game in Singleplayer but Multiplayer is fun. Grenades makes the multiplayer furstrating at times in certain maps, shipment, plus Martyrdom is completely unfair and cheap. I find it funny that a player can use his only grenade and still manage to pop one out of his ass after dying. Other than that Its a great game.
 

Di22y

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Might actually buy this game, I've only played the demo and didn't like the bit where you 'oh better not might get 'BANNED'. One thing I did like was the graphics and effects, looked great, the zp guy didn't even mention them, normally got something to say 'bout 'em.

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