Zero Punctuation: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
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This is easily the most information-dense ZP review he's done so far, and thus should be eligible for some kind of award. I had to replay the review four or five times to fully get what he was talking about. Some of the subordinate clauses meander so far into the wilderness that I forgot whether he was talking about MW3 or BF3 at any given moment.
As for those who assert that MW3 and BF3 are completely different genres and thus any comparison is terribly unfair: I haven't played either of them and thus, from my perspective, both games are realistic-ish military-themed first-person shooters. Perhaps you'd care to summarize where lies the distinction.
As for those who assert that MW3 and BF3 are completely different genres and thus any comparison is terribly unfair: I haven't played either of them and thus, from my perspective, both games are realistic-ish military-themed first-person shooters. Perhaps you'd care to summarize where lies the distinction.
Yeah, I am kind of sad that he didn't mention anything about it. Spec Ops is a big reason why I bought MW3, and I really enjoyed playing it with my friend. Maybe because Yahtzee sees Spec Ops as another multiplayer thingy that he can't be bothered to play?RC1138 said:
I can just imagine Yahtzee about to play MW3, groaning and saying "Just one more week and I can play a good game..."
Good grief, you're right! Open this in one window, turn the sound off, then start playing this other video while Yuri runs.The_root_of_all_evil said:
It is brilliant.
You didn't see me actively defending the games did you? Counter-flaming ain't worth the effort really. It's pointless, especially in this case.trollpwner said:
Too many shooters, a billion people talking about Skyrim, and so many Zelda fans getting their wish with Skyward Sword.
Me, I'm just looking forward to the new TinTin film.
Me, I'm just looking forward to the new TinTin film.
Getting really fed up with Yahtzee repeatidly neglecting multiplayer when it seems games such as COD and Battlefield are based around multiplayer.
Even if Yahtzee does not like it, A VERY large portion of the gamer base do and therefore I feel he should mention it.
Even if Yahtzee does not like it, A VERY large portion of the gamer base do and therefore I feel he should mention it.
Since I can't stand these kinds of shooters, I'm going to give the award Resistance 3, because even if it did look boring and brown, it surprised me with enough variety to at least keep me playing 'til the end. And for the opportunity to annoy my buddy with all the "ice" puns I could recall from Batman and Robin.
Say Yahtzee, speaking of humiliating tie breakers, what could more humiliating than the fact that these games are what pass for entertainment these days?
Somethingsomething Skyrim fanboy...somethingsomething better than Mw3...somethingsomething dipshits being people I dislike...NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Yeah, dipshit fanboys are still annoying (even if they're right...)
I'm not trying to flame here, but what do you need to know? It's the same mechanics from the single-player, only the NPC's are now controlled by other people[footnote]the majority of whom are annoying frat boys[/footnote]. Multiplayer hasn't really changed since the N64, and ever since Halo 2 made online popular it has changed even less; occasionally we'll get a different mode, like Horde mode, but even that just get's copy and pasted to 15 other games.JasonBurnout16 said:
Valve pricing their games 30 dollars has nothing to do with it being multiplayer or not e.g. the portal and half life games. it has to do with them being in the uniquely position of owning Steam and being their own publisher.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
as for his argument, you and yahtzee can whine n not like all you want about multiplayer, games like LoL, WoW, the brown shooters give more entertainment n joy to more people than any singleplayer game ever did. Wether you think multiplayer is a fun experience is entirely subjective. Maybe, just maybe, its just your opinion? You dont like multiplayer, most people do. deal with it. I like a lot of games people despise. i dont mind. And dont act like multiplayer will kill singleplayer or some stupid bullshit like that. Last time i checked, Skyrim is one of the top selling games of all time now. a completely single player game mind you
Okay first, I want people to stop denying that something's a game just because it's lacking in some way. That's annoying. I don't care if the single player is basically vestigial, it's still technically a game. A crummy game the designers of which put no effort into when it came to the single player, but a game nonetheless.
Second, I want to see someone make a flash game about the Anglo-Zanzibar War. You'd have 38 minutes to get through to the center and bring down the flag. I know it'd be more entertaining and original than endless modern war games with pretensions to realism.
Maybe I don't want realism, game designers. Maybe I want to be able to be as extreme and unrealistic as possible, soaking up thousands of points of damage and frantically grabbing health packs as I go.
Second, I want to see someone make a flash game about the Anglo-Zanzibar War. You'd have 38 minutes to get through to the center and bring down the flag. I know it'd be more entertaining and original than endless modern war games with pretensions to realism.
Maybe I don't want realism, game designers. Maybe I want to be able to be as extreme and unrealistic as possible, soaking up thousands of points of damage and frantically grabbing health packs as I go.
Wow. I heard the plot of MW3 wasn't all that great, but... seriously? ALL of Europe?
No, Yahtzee. I don't think Infinity Ward was trying to make the Russians look evil. I think they were aiming for an image that all Russians are STUPID.
No, Yahtzee. I don't think Infinity Ward was trying to make the Russians look evil. I think they were aiming for an image that all Russians are STUPID.
Well, Yahtzee hasn't ever been one to just say "fuck it" to reason and have fun, so i was expecting it. It was a funny review, even though i liked MW3.
You could come off your high chair now and again and enter the "big man" world of multiplayer, Yahtzee. You know, like a -REVIEWER- would. Charging 60 euros for a game that is themed around multiplayer might be a scam, but ignoring multiplayer completely as a reviewer just because "you don't like it" isn't too far off.
You could come off your high chair now and again and enter the "big man" world of multiplayer, Yahtzee. You know, like a -REVIEWER- would. Charging 60 euros for a game that is themed around multiplayer might be a scam, but ignoring multiplayer completely as a reviewer just because "you don't like it" isn't too far off.
I bought MW3 the day it came out and ever since then, I've been waiting for this review. I was generally pleased. I don't really expect Yahtzee to enjoy the multiplayer, even though spec-ops and new survival is awesome. And I do kinda believe that this video was meant to throw wood on the fire that is FPS fan-boys. That being said, after playing both games, MW3 was better.
Not trying to defend MW3 (both games sucked), but I thought the beginning of the England level was the half-assed explanation as to how Russia invaded all of Europe, where Makarov's men were already in every country, waiting to strike. It was either that or it was a weak excuse to have a chase in the London Underground.
Yep, they pretty much attack Paris, Hanover and Berlin at the same time, days after being beaten back from the US.ThunderCavalier said:
I honestly have no idea how the frontline would look. I mean, how did the invasion fleet get past Norway and Great Britain? And how could they be fighting in Berlin and Paris at the same time? What happened to Poland and Ukraine? Don't even think about supply lines and stuff like that.
And there are a lot more plot holes like that. Why can Russian Cruise Missiles be reprogrammed within seconds to fire at their own ships? How could those medium range missiles even hit targets a few yards next to them?
And Marakov is the biggest plot hole of all times
Not only does he command legions of terrorists, this guy also manages to get lots of armed terrorists into the presidents plane and also arrives faster than the russian army (within minutes) when it crashes somewhere in Russia, he also is able to get his hands on tons of WMDs (chemical bombs, at least 12) and is able to smuggle them into all major European Cities undetected together with hundreds of well armed terrorists to detonate them at the same time. He also owns a whole fortress full of terrorists outside Prague and a Salt Mine in Sibiria.
And somehow he either also controls the force occupying Berlin, including tanks, or the Russians somehow hand over the presidents daughter to him when they find her.
And this, internationally wanted terrorist, sits in the last mission in a high class hotel in Dubai, I think, surrounded by hundreds of armed guards as if he owns that place.
And somehow he either also controls the force occupying Berlin, including tanks, or the Russians somehow hand over the presidents daughter to him when they find her.
And this, internationally wanted terrorist, sits in the last mission in a high class hotel in Dubai, I think, surrounded by hundreds of armed guards as if he owns that place.
And then there are the smaller plot holes like how are people getting an attack helicopter from somewhere in the middle of Africa to Somalia within days? Too fast for a freighter and there are a many stable countries between those two who don't like foreign attack helicopters inside their borders. How do you even refuel this thing?
Yathzee already asked why the Russian President who wants nothing more than peace would actually order a Invasion of the USA and EU?
Oh and Yuri the new character
Was actually part of Marakovs organization but was against the murder of civilians at the airport so he was shot by Marakov but found alive by the Russians who thought he was a civilian. So he knew who was responsible for the attack and despite hating Marakov he never tips the Russians off to prevent the war.
Also how did he got out of hospital so fast and become one of the best men of the russian who helps you (forgot the name)?
Also how did he got out of hospital so fast and become one of the best men of the russian who helps you (forgot the name)?