interesting choice in game. fuckin funny though. i was kind of expecting O.F. Red river but this was a nice choice. "symphony of the night isnt here to impress you youre here to impress symphony of the night" LOL
Zero Punctuation: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
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It's content now. That's what's killed the game for me, not challenge. It know where everything is front and back, what the spells are, how to get into other areas without the right abilities, etc.Syntax Error said:There's a challenge document somewhere in the net that details a 200.6% Map Completion with only one monster kill. Try that if you want a "Challenge". Or beat the 425.5% Map Completion record (current highest).Ellen of Kitten said:How funny you should do this review now! Summer Vaccation just let out for (some of) us, and I decided to get in some wholesome gaming. Symphony of the Night was the first game I considered settling into. But sadly I can't play the game anymore. I loved it when it was still fresh for me. But I've played the game over 20 times now. I know all the spells and special moves- not by conventional memory, but rather by muscle memory. No matter how much I change up the game, or equip weaker items to make the experience harder, I just can't get interested anymore.
SotN is one of those rare games they don't make anymore (Shadow Complex aside). It's awesome for those that have played it less than 5 times.There really needs to be more games like it, too.
Although, I admit, one monster kill through all of the game?? How would you manage that? Dracula, I'm assuming. But what about boss fights? They're manditory kills.
wait, does this mean Yahtzee liked Shadow Complex? I'd love to see a full review of that...my GOTY when it came back (though it definitely has flaws to be torn apart with).
The Universal Studios movie Son of Dracula (1943) was the first to reverse Drac's name. I'm sure that's been said before in the first five pages of comments but knowing is half the battle. The other half is getting that knowledge thrown at you again and again by pretentious fanboys like myself.
"Ah fanboys, children of the night. What nerdy music they make."
"Ah fanboys, children of the night. What nerdy music they make."
I'm pretty sure the Alucard/Dracula name backwards shows up wherever good vampire stories can be found.
a good review, though his comment about games not doing that anymore is wrong. every castlevania i've seen has some unrevealed ability set/item/plot-line you must do or get to get the rest of the game. apparently it hasn't been a negative selling point for them so far though. after finding out about it in aria of sorrow and portrait of ruin i tried harder to get it.
the biggest problems i have with castlevania is:
1. the damage curve, which can be ignored if your good at dodging, and bad if your petrified+land on spikes and have enemies flying around. and that's any normal corridor you go through a zillion times.
2. the attack patterns of bosses (this kinda ties into #1) become so progressively hard to dodge and do so much damage, its easier to grind monsters to level until you can take most of the hits because its difficult to get to that one safe spot.
3. vampire killer isn't a very good name for the whip. its a small complaint, but with all the stuff you come up with, you can't come up something better than "vampire killer"?
the biggest problems i have with castlevania is:
1. the damage curve, which can be ignored if your good at dodging, and bad if your petrified+land on spikes and have enemies flying around. and that's any normal corridor you go through a zillion times.
2. the attack patterns of bosses (this kinda ties into #1) become so progressively hard to dodge and do so much damage, its easier to grind monsters to level until you can take most of the hits because its difficult to get to that one safe spot.
3. vampire killer isn't a very good name for the whip. its a small complaint, but with all the stuff you come up with, you can't come up something better than "vampire killer"?
I think someone should tell Yahtzee that the name "Alucard" originated in an American-made Dracula movie in the 40s. Well, it may or may not have originated in that movie, but it's the earliest mention I could find in my 5 minutes of searching.
The whole Alucard = Dracula backwards thing actually came from the US. It was the pseudonym Dracula (played by Lon Chaney, Jr.) used in Son of Dracula (1943). It has been overused to the point of bad joke LONG before the Japanese thought using it was a good idea (which actually occurred in the OVA Master of Mosquiton which predates the Hellsing manga by a full year)Calcium said:
My god. It isn't illegal for him to import Mortal Kombat, despite GameSpot's stupid story saying otherwise (the law they quoted from 1956 was superceded by a law in 1996). He lives in Queensland, which is one of the states in Australia that allows the import of Refused Classification material.
Unless you live in Western Australia or Northern Territory, or it falls into the sub-set of RC material occupied by things like CP, or torture porn, it is absolutely legal to import Mortal Kombat.
Hence, why import sites get a boost every time the ACB likes being a *****.
Unless you live in Western Australia or Northern Territory, or it falls into the sub-set of RC material occupied by things like CP, or torture porn, it is absolutely legal to import Mortal Kombat.
Hence, why import sites get a boost every time the ACB likes being a *****.
Through glitching, you can Schrodinger most monsters (kill them but not up the kill count). Also, the mandatory kill is a mook. Also, the point of the challenge was to explore every nook and cranny that can be (normally) explored, and not to kill Dracula.Ellen of Kitten said:It's content now. That's what's killed the game for me, not challenge. It know where everything is front and back, what the spells are, how to get into other areas without the right abilities, etc.Syntax Error said:There's a challenge document somewhere in the net that details a 200.6% Map Completion with only one monster kill. Try that if you want a "Challenge". Or beat the 425.5% Map Completion record (current highest).Ellen of Kitten said:How funny you should do this review now! Summer Vaccation just let out for (some of) us, and I decided to get in some wholesome gaming. Symphony of the Night was the first game I considered settling into. But sadly I can't play the game anymore. I loved it when it was still fresh for me. But I've played the game over 20 times now. I know all the spells and special moves- not by conventional memory, but rather by muscle memory. No matter how much I change up the game, or equip weaker items to make the experience harder, I just can't get interested anymore.
SotN is one of those rare games they don't make anymore (Shadow Complex aside). It's awesome for those that have played it less than 5 times.
Although, I admit, one monster kill through all of the game?? How would you manage that? Dracula, I'm assuming. But what about boss fights? They're manditory kills.
I have played this as an unlockable in the Dracula Chronicles on the PSP. Never finished it. Maybe I should go back to it. Thinking about it though, I also never finished Super Metroid. Maybe those games just aren't for me(*)
Up Next:
Ultimate
Ghosts
n
Goblins
Do it.
(*) edit. p.s. I am lost in both and dont know where to go next and too lazy to look it up
Up Next:
Ultimate
Ghosts
n
Goblins
Do it.
(*) edit. p.s. I am lost in both and dont know where to go next
and too lazy to look it up 
Yeah, the god awful 3d Castlevania games feel like vague memory to good 3d games, but when you compare it to the magnificent stallion of 2d gaming that Castlvania SotC has been its not even possible to call them similar in genre.Alufear said:
Castlevania: Symphony of the night is basically the last 2d Castlevania and pretty much gave something as close to a perfect formula and something we probably will never see again. RPG elements (leveling, stats, item drops), many different enemies, combined with alot of exploration (even going back to previous levels to find secrets, which you either missed or couldn't reach with having a power first) excellent art work, the best sound track in a video game I've ever heard..
(combining classical music, and hard core metal in others, with lots of unique sounds, some opera, organ, violins, piano even!).
It provides a long play length given you fight all the bosses and explore thoroughly.
Theres even a secret to find that opens up a new portion of the game (inverted castle) where it continues the game where you thought was the ending! Which ends up making the game even longer. A secret this big shocked alot of people.
The game is by no means perfect... but its the greatest achievement 2d gaming has made to this day, and it was essentially marked the end of a era of 2d gaming which is a real shame, I still think 2d games can have alot to offer.
Story was a little flat and the voice acting was hilariously cheezy, aside from that the difficulty curve being a little off at times. Like figuring out the button combinations for a weapons special attacks, finding out the spells Alucard can do with random button pressing can be seen as difficult (but alot of people liked this 'secret' factor... that the game didn't hand everything to you on a silver platter, you had to figure things out on your own... experimentation) and with some luck you can find some random drops of powerful weapons that end up making the game to easy (but that's up to chance really).
Overall its a game that I would have paid $50 & more (which is alot for me) whereas 400 MS points is a steal for such a 'classic' (and that's a word I don't use lightly). If you haven't already, play it.
I'd like to think that what got Yahtzee to play this game was the hilariously bad Dracula's line at the intro. "WHAT IS A MAN?!" -tosses wine glass- "A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS!" XD
Also, wholeheartedly agreed on the "Find your own path, *****!" design basis that SotN, nay, the whole classic Castlevania games have been built upon. A lot of modern adventure games, pretty as their visuals and engaging as their gameplay (and storylines) may be, all felt a bit too hand-holding, nannying the players even past the point where they can do fine on their own. Seriously, they need to stop doing this.
So what if it makes the game slightly more difficult? That could even actually add up to the satisfaction the player gets upon finally conquering "this really hard game". It's what kept me coming back to the "Metroidvania" series, really, tho right about now I also felt that the easy-game plague is starting to plague the series as well.
Also, wholeheartedly agreed on the "Find your own path, *****!" design basis that SotN, nay, the whole classic Castlevania games have been built upon. A lot of modern adventure games, pretty as their visuals and engaging as their gameplay (and storylines) may be, all felt a bit too hand-holding, nannying the players even past the point where they can do fine on their own. Seriously, they need to stop doing this.
So what if it makes the game slightly more difficult? That could even actually add up to the satisfaction the player gets upon finally conquering "this really hard game". It's what kept me coming back to the "Metroidvania" series, really, tho right about now I also felt that the easy-game plague is starting to plague the series as well.