Yeah, I'm just running on autopilot by this point to see if anyone has come up with a new argument in the last five years.Steve the Pocket said:Sometimes you people just make it too easy.
A surprising fact from a QI episode some time back is that the First World War was called that before there was a Second World War.The Gentleman said:"Why do you keep calling it 'World War one?'"
"You'll see... you'll see"
And if they can't do that they can just make their own guns [http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/story-fni0cx12-1226760983916]Thanatos2k said:Because you can't "try" gun control in an area, because people just as easily get their guns from the surrounding areas.
I think I heard a pig fainting.otakon17 said:This might be completely off-topic, but did anyone else hear a kind of low fainting grinding noise in the background? Like someone was turning the crank on an old style backpack radio or the like? I swear I did...
Are you sure they aren't ravens?Darth_Payn said:Yeah, after the second watching, I had to turn up the volume to hear it better and yes, those were crows in the background.
Why is that surprising?Flatfrog said:A surprising fact from a QI episode some time back is that the First World War was called that before there was a Second World War.
Well, most people would assume that no one would use the phrase "First World War" until there was another one to compare it with. It's not *quite* as illogical as it sounds, but it does require a change of meaning from 'the first of the two world wars' to 'the first war that involved the whole world'. Except that it's a misnomer, since it was pretty much a European war, really.Aardvaarkman said:Why is that surprising?Flatfrog said:A surprising fact from a QI episode some time back is that the First World War was called that before there was a Second World War.
Then why do gun control advocates try gun control and then claim that it works when it clearly doesn't? (see: gun-free schools)Thanatos2k said:Because you can't "try" gun control in an area, because people just as easily get their guns from the surrounding areas.HalfTangible said:Gun control in America has been tried and every single time it has made gun violence in that area even worse. *cough*Chicago*cough* And you wonder why we oppose it?
We HAD stability in the middle east, just like we had stability in Vietnam. And then we decided to hand our victory over for no good reason (again) by leaving long before the region was able to take over for its own stabilization and we wonder why the region collapsed?
God, I hate hearing about politics here. It's not funny and it's generally inaccurate.
Why would people assume that? When you buy your first house, you're very much aware that you've bought your first house. Buying a second house is not necessary to that awareness.Flatfrog said:Well, most people would assume that no one would use the phrase "First World War" until there was another one to compare it with.
Due to the amount of guns already in the US, the only way to get rid of them all is to go all totalitarian, and that doesn't appeal to me. The argument of "If everyone has guns, nobody shoots each other" is also false because yes, some people aren't that stable. Not allowing guns is, in many ways, an open invitation to your establishment saying "We won't fight back." Call the cops? I wouldn't be surprised if they are trained not to go into situations like that when the gunmen have access to hostages like that. And after the robbers (if you're lucky) or gunmen (if you are unlucky) leave, you are out of money and/or employees. Security? Great, one more person to pay.An Ceannaire said:Not always. Also, the easy access to guns in America is the prime cause of school shootings. Hard to shoot up a school if you can't access a gun.bobdole1979 said:mental illness is the cause of the shootings.
"Well, if you want a gun, you're mentally ill and a threat to society. So no gun for you!"MrFalconfly said:So why not put restrictions on gun access for the mentally ill?
*NRA wackspin
"But that would encroach on the mentally ill's right to keep and bear arms"
Right, so we have established that there are people who frankly shouldn't ever have access to firearms, but you give them firearms regardless because of the 2nd amendment.
Great plan buster.
Because trench warfare isn't that fun to play. You want to go out of the trench and gun the opposing team? They'll shred you to ribbons.thejboy88 said:He raises an interesting point. Given that we have so many war games out there, why ISN'T the First World War depicted more often?
World War 1 was originally called The Great War or The War to End All Wars. This obviously didn't happen.Aardvaarkman said:Why would people assume that? When you buy your first house, you're very much aware that you've bought your first house. Buying a second house is not necessary to that awareness.Flatfrog said:Well, most people would assume that no one would use the phrase "First World War" until there was another one to compare it with.
Re: Gun safe. I can see why they don't want to do it: it's one more thing to buy, and if it is required to own one, companies and stores can price-gouge the living daylight out of any legal gun owner. This is happening with Verizon and Comcast in the USA because of their stranglehold on most of US's internet.Brian Tams said:Republicans think any and all gun control is bad, which is idiotic considering how some of the proposals are reasonable (is requiring gun owners to also own a gun safe so fucking bad? IS IT?)
Democrats want to curb gun violence by outright banning Assault Rifles, which is humorous considering how pistols are used in the majority of gun violence in the US. Oh sure, there were some school shootings and such with nuts armed with assault weapons, but the statistics tell you that semi-automatic rifles aren't nearly as destructive as democrats will have you believe.
No, I think most see the problem being a lack of it.bobdole1979 said:really? you are blaming school shootings on gun control?
Hahaha. Oh wait, you're serious?HalfTangible said:We HAD stability in the middle east, just like we had stability in Vietnam. And then we decided to hand our victory over for no good reason (again) by leaving long before the region was able to take over for its own stabilization and we wonder why the region collapsed?
God, I hate hearing about politics here. It's not funny and it's generally inaccurate.