Um I asked a lot of people who played XIV and they said it sucked. Show me where these fan boys are so I can talk logic in to them.Mortrialus said:Fixed for truth.k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
In all seriousness though, Yahtzee's fans are the biggest sheep in the world outside of the SquareEnix fanboys who refused to acknowledge Final Fantasy XIV was a complete failure of a game in almost every way.
I like you, the first Magical Quest game was the first game I owned and beat and I'm still waiting for it to return in some form to me (I can't find the gba cart T_T).Xerosch said:I know it's only me but I'd really like Capcom's "Magical Quest" return. I really liked those even if they were pretty easy. And the music in the ice level of the first game is one of my favourite tracks.
Changing other people's posts are we? How very mature.Mortrialus said:Fixed for truth.k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
In all seriousness though, Yahtzee's fans are the biggest sheep in the world outside of the SquareEnix fanboys who refused to acknowledge Final Fantasy XIV was a complete failure of a game in almost every way.
Edit: I've wanted to take a jab at Yahtzee and his fans for a while, but that was too cruel considering how polite you were and I apologize. It was unneeded. Merry Christmas to you. Mine was actually pretty good.Translated said:I enjoy watching and reading Yahtzee with a surprisingly high hit-rate that seems to be almost entirely independent of whether he likes the games I do or not. I think that's a mark of his communication/presentation style. Paradoxically, it's also the way a good diplomat is often described. But I digress.Mortrialus said:Fixed for truth.k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
In all seriousness though, Yahtzee's fans are the biggest sheep in the world outside of the SquareEnix fanboys who refused to acknowledge Final Fantasy XIV was a complete failure of a game in almost every way.
Final Fantasy XIV seems to have had some really major issues. I'm not a fan of MMORPG games, so I can't comment on it in detail. What I can say is that I've had certain issues with many of the recent Final Fantasy games, despite the fact that it's been one of my favorite series and I consider myself to be a fan.
Being a fan of either content you mentioned doesn't make someone a "sheep". It's when we give up the choice to think for ourselves (in any context) that we may become "sheep". That's no more or less true for enjoying Yahtzee or a specific Final Fantasy game than anything else.
I'm sorry you feel like people aren't being discerning in consuming this program (which I personally find to be a really good one) and that you find the fact that people don't recognize your perspective on this specific game to be frustrating. I think we all can relate to at least one game that was like that, whether it was over-rated or overlooked.
In any case, Merry Christmas and I hope that you find the new year more enjoyable and that there are many opportunities for you to share those unexpected positive experiences with the rest of the forum. If anyone tries to give you shit about doing that, let me know: I've got your back.
Look at the original concept art then look up why none of it is in the game...Some people got an early look at the prototype and thought "OMGZ,THEY MADE MICKEY TEH EVILS!!!" So now the game is half-assed,that's pretty much what happened plus the games flaws are annoying,too many fetch quests,sucky camera,and overall monotony when you've repeated those 2D platforming sections for the millionth time,also you can't go to previous areas to do things you didn't made me too bored to press on. I still haven't sent it back yet though (I rented it from Gamefly)Srdjan Tanaskovic said:Strange I thought that Yahtzee would praise the story (but he didn't talk much about it either). Oh well maybe we will get more info on Extra Punctuation
and I still dont see how this game isn't dark and edgy
Actually, that was proven false outright.Alphakirby said:Look at the original concept art then look up why none of it is in the game...Some people got an early look at the prototype and thought "OMGZ,THEY MADE MICKEY TEH EVILS!!!" So now the game is half-assed,that's pretty much what happened plus the games flaws are annoying,too many fetch quests,sucky camera,and overall monotony when you've repeated those 2D platforming sections for the millionth time,also you can't go to previous areas to do things you didn't made me too bored to press on. I still haven't sent it back yet though (I rented it from Gamefly)Srdjan Tanaskovic said:Strange I thought that Yahtzee would praise the story (but he didn't talk much about it either). Oh well maybe we will get more info on Extra Punctuation
and I still dont see how this game isn't dark and edgy
That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play. IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
Which part are you reffering toMortrialus said:Actually, that was proven false outright.Alphakirby said:Look at the original concept art then look up why none of it is in the game...Some people got an early look at the prototype and thought "OMGZ,THEY MADE MICKEY TEH EVILS!!!" So now the game is half-assed,that's pretty much what happened plus the games flaws are annoying,too many fetch quests,sucky camera,and overall monotony when you've repeated those 2D platforming sections for the millionth time,also you can't go to previous areas to do things you didn't made me too bored to press on. I still haven't sent it back yet though (I rented it from Gamefly)Srdjan Tanaskovic said:Strange I thought that Yahtzee would praise the story (but he didn't talk much about it either). Oh well maybe we will get more info on Extra Punctuation
and I still dont see how this game isn't dark and edgy
Yahtzee spent most of his review bitching about how its not "TEH DARKER AND EDGIER" and so did that guy. As far as easy and defanged (Whatever you mean by that term), I'm going to disagree.Alphakirby said:That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play.
It is, at the very least, an interesting experiment. Its held back by some considerable flaws, but there is still a lot of good in the game. Its going to polarize people, though this forum is almost unanimous about it because Yahtzee's fans are the 2nd biggest sheep on the planet behind Final Fantasy fan boys who do nothing but parrot his words and never form an opinion on things themselves.Alphakirby said:IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,
Don't take Yahtzee's word on anything he says. Yahtzee is and always will be that toad that developed a fucking god complex for making a few playable (Not good. Not spectacular. Playable) Point and Click adventure games. I remember him getting all emotional and saying "I have to remove myself for a bit my ego is hurting myself and my fans! Woe is me!" and he comes back with an even bigger ego than ever. He's a tool, and one that engages in sensationalistic hyperbole in just about every major point he makes.Alphakirby said:no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...
The rumor that Spector changed the game based on a focus group where a biker threated to kill him if he killed his childhood and all the other incarnations of it.Alphakirby said:Which part are you reffering to
Well I don't believe reviews because they are usually only opinions, I played Epic Mickey and it got boring the camera didn't work, I personally couldn't care less if it was "Dark and Edgy" the platforming sections (mainly the jungle one) started to aggrivate me because it seemed that I would rapidly have to go back and forth constantly,the levels always reset to the degree that I just stopped painting everything (although thinning out people was a nice distraction) And it was nothing but fetch quests most of the time,one that was difficult enough for me to stop playing,it didn't seem as it was there at all and I already did the wrong thing with the tiki mask fetch quest and I wanted a good moral ending. So overall my opinion of the game was that it was a dissapointment to my expectations,reviews are only opinions until they actually mention game-breaking issues like camera issues(Which again almost everyone's reviews have brought up) and bugs, otherwise it's primariliy the reviewer's opinion, I just don't like it when people flame certain things, it's Youtube rules,if you don't like it,why comment on it. I'm not calling you a troll,you do have good points,but don't try to ruin other peoples fun,I mean the people who have diminished or glorified thoughts based on reviews that are so busy talking opinionitive bulls@#% that it should still be worth a try or a bit of suspicion if the game seems too good to be true. So once again I agree with your points,but I will still keep to my own opinions and thoughts. Also thanks for updating me on that focus group,I really don't check news of any kind,except when my magizines come around.Mortrialus said:Yahtzee spent most of his review bitching about how its not "TEH DARKER AND EDGIER" and so did that guy. As far as easy and defanged (Whatever you mean by that term), I'm going to disagree.Alphakirby said:That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play.
Well you have a point,I suppose i was thinking of the platforming I only remember having trouble with the second Oswald stage trying to get the reel. P.S.Defanged means something that is originally dark and thinning it to reach a larger audience (Example:The original ideas for Epic Mickey were watered down for a larger audience)
It is, at the very least, an interesting experiment. Its held back by some considerable flaws, but there is still a lot of good in the game. Its going to polarize people, though this forum is almost unanimous about it because Yahtzee's fans are the 2nd biggest sheep on the planet behind Final Fantasy fan boys who do nothing but parrot his words and never form an opinion on things themselves.Alphakirby said:IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,
Don't take Yahtzee's word on anything he says. Yahtzee is and always will be that toad that developed a fucking god complex for making a few playable (Not good. Not spectacular. Playable) Point and Click adventure games. I remember him getting all emotional and saying "I have to remove myself for a bit my ego is hurting myself and my fans! Woe is me!" and he comes back with an even bigger ego than ever. He's a tool, and one that engages in sensationalistic hyperbole in just about every major point he makes.Alphakirby said:no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...
I find it strange that you or anyone else actually like him at all. He isn't funny. He is at best amusing. Zero Punctuation has never been anything other than noise that holds your attention. Anything he says that might actually be funny is just him pointing out things that are already funny about the game. How many jokes has he made that are actually funny, that actually make you laugh? The only one I can think of one, the "Dick in the pudding" joke he made in his Prince of Persia retrospective and he stole that. I don't understand why so many people regard him as "ZOMG The best comedian on the internet so funny" when he doesn't actually make people laugh. I've seen people watch his videos. They don't laugh. They just sit blankly until the end where they say "Well that was entertaining".
The rumor that Spector changed the game based on a focus group where a biker threated to kill him if he killed his childhood and all the other incarnations of it.Alphakirby said:Which part are you reffering to
That's not even my quote, my original post was changed by someone who wanted to "bash Yahtzee fans" for some reason and he/she changed my post to whatever the hell that is. Go back a few pages to see the original, you're essentially replying to nothing here.Alphakirby said:That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play. IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
Edit:Almost forgot *Flame Shield*
"Some reason?" Your entire post is just one long winded whining session about how its not dark enough.k-ossuburb said:That's not even my quote, my original post was changed by someone who wanted to "bash Yahtzee fans" for some reason and he/she changed my post to whatever the hell that is. Go back a few pages to see the original, you're essentially replying to nothing here.Alphakirby said:That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play. IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
Edit:Almost forgot *Flame Shield*
That's not the point I was making, sorry for not being clear. I was saying that it isn't reaching its full creative potential, that's all. I don't care about the mood, only that it's disappointing that with a brand as big as Disney you'd expect something with a lot more quality, especially considering the amount of time this was in development.Mortrialus said:"Some reason?" Your entire post is just one long winded whining session about how its not dark enough.k-ossuburb said:That's not even my quote, my original post was changed by someone who wanted to "bash Yahtzee fans" for some reason and he/she changed my post to whatever the hell that is. Go back a few pages to see the original, you're essentially replying to nothing here.Alphakirby said:That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play. IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
Edit:Almost forgot *Flame Shield*
I'm pretty sure what happened is that Warren Spector was nerdgasming over having complete access to the Disney vaults, and was all like "Wow! We need to put this poster in here! Oh we need to add this lamp post! Oh unused concept art! Thats going in." and then the deadline rolls around.k-ossuburb said:That's not the point I was making, sorry for not being clear. I was saying that it isn't reaching its full creative potential, that's all. I don't care about the mood, only that it's disappointing that with a brand as big as Disney you'd expect something with a lot more quality, especially considering the amount of time this was in development.Mortrialus said:"Some reason?" Your entire post is just one long winded whining session about how its not dark enough.k-ossuburb said:That's not even my quote, my original post was changed by someone who wanted to "bash Yahtzee fans" for some reason and he/she changed my post to whatever the hell that is. Go back a few pages to see the original, you're essentially replying to nothing here.Alphakirby said:That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play. IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
Edit:Almost forgot *Flame Shield*
Anyway, let's just pretend I said:
"Herpa derp, this game suckzors becoz I dun leik Disney an i has no opinions of my own, herpa derpa derp."
Thank you.
You're right about the waste of potential there were so many things that could've been done! =)k-ossuburb said:That's not the point I was making, sorry for not being clear. I was saying that it isn't reaching its full creative potential, that's all. I don't care about the mood, only that it's disappointing that with a brand as big as Disney you'd expect something with a lot more quality, especially considering the amount of time this was in development.Mortrialus said:"Some reason?" Your entire post is just one long winded whining session about how its not dark enough.k-ossuburb said:That's not even my quote, my original post was changed by someone who wanted to "bash Yahtzee fans" for some reason and he/she changed my post to whatever the hell that is. Go back a few pages to see the original, you're essentially replying to nothing here.Alphakirby said:That wasn't a reason for knocking the game down,you misunderstood,the thing was that all the old cartoon references most kids wouldn't know of,yet the game is too easy and defanged to the degree that not many adults would want to play. IMO,The actual gameplay was lacking due to it's flaws,the point is...Epic Mickey was extremely hyped and made by Warren Spector so when people played it...it was a disapointment,no Disney fanboy will change that P.S.A critic is SUPPOSED to pick apart a game based on said critic's opinions and in a way are much more trustworthy than mainstream reviewers because one out of 5 reviewers will always be bribed at some point,notice how only X-Play gave it a perfect review...k-ossuburb said:WAHH!! WAHH!! Its not Mickey Mouse meets Silent Hill! Its unoriginal and kiddy! WAHH!
Edit:Almost forgot *Flame Shield*
Anyway, let's just pretend I said:
"Herpa derp, this game suckzors becoz I dun leik Disney an i has no opinions of my own, herpa derpa derp."
Thank you.