Zero Punctuation: Infamous 2
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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That's it. It is what I feared since the beggining. Yahtzee is broken. The Duke Desilusion Forever was too much for him. Nothing can beat that.
So, basically, Yahtzee would have found the game nigh on perfect had SP named the two extremes on their moral choice system differently? Maybe, had they gone for "complete twat Cole" and "butter wouldn't sodding melt Cole" he'd have been happy with it all round?
The thing is, they can't(not AND have a decent sandbox as the writing and mission making would get mental and the dev cycle would just grow and grow-and SP aren't a massive team despite a decent legacy with Sly)do all the shades of grey and might have been best ignoring the first game and just having a few choices and an unfairly misunderstood Cole in a world where people just see the worst in you and especially mistrust you if you're an outsider with amazing powers who, they say, managed to destroy his own town. Nearly twice. ?wouldn't have been that hard to make two or three endings and just save all the good power ups for a set XP or whatever. I realise the first had it so they felt they needed it and the inclusion of a level editor speaks volumes to me as this game cannot have MP so they want ANY reason for replay value and for that you gotta, partly, blame the critics of this world who create when there's no MP in a strong SP package-WTF is that about?
I really liked the first inFAMOUS despite finding the choice system a bit weak myself and thought the star was the under rated writing and couldn't, for the life of me, understand how anyone found ,much of a similarity with it and Hulk UD2(or Prototype)at the time as P'tye was the worst written and unconvincingly put together game of it's year. Hopefully they've done as much with that as SP seem to have managed with what looks just about the best sequel inFAMOUS was ever going to get. It's never going to please everyone(sandboxes minus the R* mark rarely seem to for some reason)but SP always, for me, make well put together games and never get to hog the limelight and they really deserve a bit more than that. also hoping for a better show from P2 later this year as, even with a poor first game, there's something worth saving in there.
The thing is, they can't(not AND have a decent sandbox as the writing and mission making would get mental and the dev cycle would just grow and grow-and SP aren't a massive team despite a decent legacy with Sly)do all the shades of grey and might have been best ignoring the first game and just having a few choices and an unfairly misunderstood Cole in a world where people just see the worst in you and especially mistrust you if you're an outsider with amazing powers who, they say, managed to destroy his own town. Nearly twice. ?wouldn't have been that hard to make two or three endings and just save all the good power ups for a set XP or whatever. I realise the first had it so they felt they needed it and the inclusion of a level editor speaks volumes to me as this game cannot have MP so they want ANY reason for replay value and for that you gotta, partly, blame the critics of this world who create when there's no MP in a strong SP package-WTF is that about?
I really liked the first inFAMOUS despite finding the choice system a bit weak myself and thought the star was the under rated writing and couldn't, for the life of me, understand how anyone found ,much of a similarity with it and Hulk UD2(or Prototype)at the time as P'tye was the worst written and unconvincingly put together game of it's year. Hopefully they've done as much with that as SP seem to have managed with what looks just about the best sequel inFAMOUS was ever going to get. It's never going to please everyone(sandboxes minus the R* mark rarely seem to for some reason)but SP always, for me, make well put together games and never get to hog the limelight and they really deserve a bit more than that. also hoping for a better show from P2 later this year as, even with a poor first game, there's something worth saving in there.
Vegeta.. whats his scouter say on his power level.... ITS OVER 9000 !!!!!!!!!!!! 9000... can't believe no one got this internet meme.. its the first time Yahtzee has mentioned it.
+1 point for Yahtzee
+1 point for Yahtzee
Yeah, sounds good and all, but if you're after a nit to pick, here's one: It's only on bloody Playstation! FFS I'm really goddamn tired of this exclusives business. Someone needs to explain to developers, preferably using lots of sharp pointy memory aids, that games released on only one platform are artificially limiting their audience and therefore sales. I think exclusives hold back gaming as a medium, and really ought to result in the automatic loss of a point or two in the old ten point review scale.
Yeah, Sucker Punch, Insomniac, and Naughty Dog have to be my three favorite developers personally, and Sucker Punch is definitely the odd one out there. I can't help but associate the three with Sly Cooper, Ratchet and Clank, and Crash Bandicoot though... even if Insomniac was also Spyro (and Naughty Dog also Jak and Daxter)...
OT: Loved the first, going to get this one. Still want to platinum the first though.
OT: Loved the first, going to get this one. Still want to platinum the first though.
huh wow..i haven't finished the first one up, been jumping on and off now, but from what i've seen around i might just have to beat it and get the 2nd one
The thing I liked most about the moral choices were the civilian's reactions. In my good playthrough, they would say, "Go get 'em!" or, "My family wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for you." As I'm doing my evil playthrough, some comments from the people really sink to the bone. Like, "How can you live with yourself?!" or, "We're not just toys to be played with!"
Sounds like the perfect sequel. Same basic gameplay and mechanics but with added features and tweaks.
Exclusives are what keep Sony going. With nothing new going for them consolewise except the PSMove, they have to keep whatever exclusives they can get. LittleBigPlanet, inFamous, Ratchet and Clank in particular. Sanzaru's even doing a full revival of Sly Cooper with Sly 4 and that'll be PS3 exclusive too.lithium.jelly said:
I agree with Yahtzee about being able to choose whether you want to be good or bad in the beginning of the game instead of making the same choices over and over again. It's something I never understood in games with moral choices. Do people normally want to be the good guy and just suddenly transform into the biggest d-bag ever?
Did you make a bet with someone that you could stick "LOL" and "over nine thousaaaaand" into a video and no one would comment on it?
Because it just seemed a little... odd. In fact it seems like the sort of thing that you'd happy (verbally) knife someone for doing.
That aside, I enjoyed this.
Because it just seemed a little... odd. In fact it seems like the sort of thing that you'd happy (verbally) knife someone for doing.
That aside, I enjoyed this.
Don't feel bad yahtzee the good ending made me seriously consider thinking about tearing up a bit too.
