Zero Punctuation: Kirby's Epic Yarn
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I highly doubt it. But then again, that's what I find so ironic. The guy makes thought-provoking criticism and openly insults people who can't think for themselves, yet his biggest (or at least LOUDEST) fans are pretty much just that.CriticalGriffin said:
hi gutter, your assumptions offend me. I don't know if you're trying to be insulting, or are just misinformed.Gutterpunk said:
Read this promotional interview with the game's designers.
http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/kirbysepicyarn/vol1_page3.jsp
they weren't shitting out a game "for kids only." They put a lot of thought into challenging a variety of players, and haggled over the difficulty design. (but in my opinion they ultimately failed, and ended up sending a big fuck you to adults).
the idea that Nintendo would design a flagship game and only kids should play it... is baffling. ... Do you think pac-man is for kids only, because it is brightly colored with simple character design? Do you think Nintendo's skill at game development is best compared to barbie horse-riding cash in games?
"wow"
Sad part is, I sometimes feel like I'm starting to act like one of those people. Thankfully, there is one game that I particularly disagree with him on. In fact, I'm not sure if he even played through the whole thing (he probably barely passed Ryan Amusements before calling it quits). He also never mentions the Brute Splicers that were introduced. By now, you probably know what game I'm talking about, but just for the heck of it, I'm going to say I'm talking about Bioshock 2. I've notied that a lot of people complain about having more instances of "defending" a Little Sister when she's gathering. I don't know if they realize this, but the Little Sisters in the 2nd game can't get killed or even abducted by Splicers during those times and the only consequence for a Splicer getting to her is that she stops gathering until you get rid him/her off of her. In several cases, all you need is patience (in some instances, the gather took place under a security cam so all I had to do is sit in a corner somewhere and if a Splicer tries to grab her, the camera will go off and security bots will pump him/her full of lead). The only complaint that I have is that there's no way to restart the game so you can keep all your weapons and plasmids from the last level. I'm not saying that the fact that his opinion differs from mine bothers me. I'm just saying that I don't share all of his opinions.theultimateend said:
If it helps you any I thought Bioshock 2 was exceptionally entertaining and the only part that really disappointed me was the ending.samaugsch said:Sad part is, I sometimes feel like I'm starting to act like one of those people. Thankfully, there is one game that I particularly disagree with him on. In fact, I'm not sure if he even played through the whole thing (he probably barely passed Ryan Amusements before calling it quits). He also never mentions the Brute Splicers that were introduced. By now, you probably know what game I'm talking about, but just for the heck of it, I'm going to say I'm talking about Bioshock 2. I've notied that a lot of people complain about having more instances of "defending" a Little Sister when she's gathering. I don't know if they realize this, but the Little Sisters in the 2nd game can't get killed or even abducted by Splicers during those times and the only consequence for a Splicer getting to her is that she stops gathering until you get rid him/her off of her. In several cases, all you need is patience (in some instances, the gather took place under a security cam so all I had to do is sit in a corner somewhere and if a Splicer tries to grab her, the camera will go off and security bots will pump him/her full of lead). The only complaint that I have is that there's no way to restart the game so you can keep all your weapons and plasmids from the last level. I'm not saying that the fact that his opinion differs from mine bothers me. I'm just saying that I don't share all of his opinions.theultimateend said:
It felt very empty. As if I had worked so hard for effectively nothing.
The little sister mini game parts were really fun for me. I'd just go batshit with the minigun and mow down every soul that came rushing in. Also turrets were deliciously evil.
Overall his criticisms for it bring me to your conclusion that his job didn't give him more than a few minutes to check it out. And frankly the first 10 minutes were pretty lame.
So yeah, B2 was nice. Not necessary B1 nice but it made me confident that I'll enjoy Bioshock Infinite.
I thought for the entire game they were doing the same plot and so I was waiting for that guy to betray me. They surprised me by not doing that .
.Most of America's problems are rooted in a VERY small group of people. About 12 or so people in the last 100 years have really shaped the underbelly of the country for the worse, yet it's the 300 million of the current population that get the blame (albeit a few of that dozen are still alive).jack583 said:
Ironically one of those people is German and goes by the name Fritz Haber. Course he could be happily prodded for being the root of MANY different problems :/.
theultimateend said:If it helps you any I thought Bioshock 2 was exceptionally entertaining and the only part that really disappointed me was the ending.
It felt very empty. As if I had worked so hard for effectively nothing.
The little sister mini game parts were really fun for me. I'd just go batshit with the minigun and mow down every soul that came rushing in. Also turrets were deliciously evil.
Overall his criticisms for it bring me to your conclusion that his job didn't give him more than a few minutes to check it out. And frankly the first 10 minutes were pretty lame.
So yeah, B2 was nice. Not necessary B1 nice but it made me confident that I'll enjoy Bioshock Infinite.
I thought for the entire game they were doing the same plot and so I was waiting for that guy to betray me. They surprised me by not doing that
Oh yeah, and I also hated the fact that you couldn't choose to kill the main antagonist yourself.
You forgot to mention that considering Kirby's standard attacks, this means that he sucks, blows and swallows.
SUCKS, BLOWS AND SWALLOWS.
Come on, man; this shit writes itself...
SUCKS, BLOWS AND SWALLOWS.
Come on, man; this shit writes itself...
This was probably his worst review yet. He spent half a review whining about things out of his control and mentioned nothing about the level design, varied enemies, excellent co-op or it's presentation beyond what's mentioned on the front cover. Bleh.
It felt a lot like Yahtzee found out you couldn't actually die and just got pissed off and looked for other things to be angry at throughout the rest of the game. Yes, you can't die; if you really want you can just waltz through every level up till the end and beat it. I'll give that it's easy, even for a Kirby game (which rarely have much difficulty outside of say, Superstar Saga). Especially so if you decide you're above trying to collect everything and trying to get enough gems to achieve a gold medal on each level just because you decide the apartment bullshit is the actual endgame; if Yahtzee hadn't complimented the awesomeness of the Metaknight boss fight I might've doubted him having played it. But it's still an extremely fun and charming game if you're not just trying to hate it for being a fairly easy and absurdly cute 2D platformer (on, oh god, the Wii). The graphics are very nicely done and yarn theme is done well throughout the game and never swept to the side. It's sad that a lot of the hate in the thread seems to be directed toward the graphic style/cuteness of it all, or at least uses that as part of the excuse to hate it. It's not like playing and actually enjoying a cute game is a threat to your manhood. I admittedly found it endearingly adorable since due to how stupidly cute it is, it crosses the line twice: from just "cute" to "way too sickeningly cute" to "so god damn sickeningly cute that it's fucking adorable and irresistable."
Name a game in which your character can die. As in, if you mess up your game is over.
No. Almost every game, if you mess up you start back a little, with some minor penalty. Kirby is no different. You lose your beads and you respawn.
If anything, the death penalty in Kirby's Epic Yarn is greater than in most games.
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Now name the games where you can grab your team mate and toss him at your enemies. Or grab your enemies and toss them at other enemies.
If nothing else, that is fun.
No. Almost every game, if you mess up you start back a little, with some minor penalty. Kirby is no different. You lose your beads and you respawn.
If anything, the death penalty in Kirby's Epic Yarn is greater than in most games.
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Now name the games where you can grab your team mate and toss him at your enemies. Or grab your enemies and toss them at other enemies.
If nothing else, that is fun.
