Zero Punctuation: Monster Hunter Tri

[milskidasith]

Offline and Low-Rank Online modes have tolerable levels of grind. But High-Rank Online is a grind fest. It is a grind fest because you will inevitably encounter equipment that requires items that have a low drop rate - Around a 10% chance or less. And this is equipment you can't skip out on either. Expect to fight the same boss monster 20+ times just for one item.

There is no equipment you can't skip out on. In fact, the best armor set for many people, online and off, is straight up Agnaktor armor (not Agnaktor+) due to the fact it's perfect for lancers. You can also get fast charge and crit draw using only basic low rank armor, so you don't need to grind for it.

An example of the grind fest that is High-Rank Online - I fought a boss monster 12 times just for one item in High-Rank Online. The worst part is, this was for an item that is supposed to be common - Lagiarcus Horn+. Lagiarcus Horn+ is supposed to have a 40% chance to drop. It took me 7 regular Horns, 2 Lagiarcus Plates, and 2 Lagia Sapphires before I got one Horn+. And the items I just mentioned have a drop rate that is 20% or less. And I still needed 3 more Horn+ to make the item I needed. I didn't feel like playing anymore after that.

This is just bad math right here. 40% drop would be common, yes... except you have to break the horns to get it. Yeah, the plates and sapphires are a lot rarer, but you get a chance on those from every after quest reward, which you get 5~10 of, depending on if you cap, and more from breaking certain parts. Granted, you were unlucky, but complaining about bad luck enforcing grind is dumb.

Honestly, I admit there is grind, but you picked a poor example to show it; perhaps show trying to farm up an Altareon weapon.

As a side note: I've gotten through the entire game, up to high rank offline quests (where I upgraded) using only Quropecco armor gemmed up for evasion +2, the fire SnS, and the electric switch axe; you don't need to grind out much at all, because the weapons I got just from drops from doing the missions, and the pecco armor I got in about 20 minutes.

I dunno, maybe I'm just a fanboy and I can't tell it, but I thought I was being far more reasonable than the average poster, despite defending the game.

Fanboys are not reasonable in the slightest. That's the biggest difference. Fanboys just don't accept any form of criticism because heaven forbid they change their opinion EVER.
You're being reasonable, ergo, not a fanboy.

This is the problem: You said the three types of posters were people who liked Yahtzee and took him as entertainment, rabid Yahtzee fanboys, and idiotic Tri fanboys. I don't feel comfortable in any of those categories, especially since the heavy implication was that anybody who even posted anything in defense of the game was automatically number three.

I don't take Yahtzee as entertainment. Well, I do, in the same way I take Ebert's reviews as entertainment; they are entertaining, yes, but they've still got to actually present a fair view of the reviewed material. Even if the smart money is on not listening because Yahtzee didn't present anything about the actual meat of the gameplay, there are clearly far too many people who take Yahtzee's review as gospel for the excuse "he's just an entertainer, don't listen to him for reviews and don't complain about how he portrays games, even if it's inaccurate" to work.

 

[Ranthus]

Apparently, Yahtzee didn't make it past the tutorial missions. Shame.

And let's not forget: he writes these things to be funny, so I wasn't really expecting it to be positive, even if it is great (to me).

 

[xscoot]

Huh. How far did Yahtzee actually play the game for? 'Cause I know that mission he described near the end of the review, where you're suddenly ambushed by one of the high-end monsters. That was one of the 1-star quests. The lowest-end stuff. A few quests into the 2-star stuff (which comes swift on the heels of that mission) gets you into the actual hunting of the big monsters, which is the point of the game. I dunno, it seems kind of off to me.

He only played the tutorial, pretty much.

Ah, Yahtzee...

Lost Planet 2 is calling for you to tear it apart.

Not that you care or anything.

Lost Planet 2 is MH with guns.

 

[Metaphor]

Yahtzee does not bash anything he likes.
Yahtzee did not bash the Monster Hunting after the tutorial stages.
Therefore, Yahtzee likes the monster hunting part of Monster Hunter Tri.

So...Good review!

 

[veyn]

He didn't even get past the TUTORIAL QUESTS. Not that I wasn't expecting that from Yahtzee..
Those quests are nothing but gathering, and for a good reason, to teach you the basic mechanics of the game!

The rest of the game is spent hunting gigantic monsters, which can be done cooperatively online with teammates. I bet Yahtzee didn't even get to the first boss (The big "water monster" he encountered doesn't count). This further proves that he has no interest in actually "getting into" a game before reviewing it.

Anyone who takes "advice" from Yahtzee's reviews is an utter tool and/or 15 years old.

 

[Battenbergcake]

this game sounds horrible. Brilliant review as always Yahtzee

Nah, it's all about taste.

Yahtzee's not a fan of Japanese games and not one of the constant grind of a mmorpg.
In japan it's what Modern Warfare 2 to people who like that kinda of online frustration.

And as Yahtzee quote his loathing for, it's a game that's got to be played co-op to get the fullest out of, especially when it comes to telling the bigger monsters.

Comparatively theirs less content than it's psp predecessor, besides don't knock a game before you've tried it yourself.
The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about.

 

[veyn]

Yahtzee does not bash anything he likes.
Yahtzee did not bash the Monster Hunting after the tutorial stages.
Therefore, Yahtzee likes the monster hunting part of Monster Hunter Tri.

So...Good review!

I'm willing to bet he never even played past those levels.

 

[AdamG3691]

From the sound of what you said yahtzee, you only got up to the seventh quest, and yes it's true, the first one or two HR are a bit boring, but when you hit HR 3 you get to start fighting large monsters and on HR 5 you get to fight that giant fish monster you talked about, as well as giant dragons and a rather literal sea lion, you should know by now that Japanese games need some playing to get good, what you have done is reviewed the game based on it's tutorial, try playing for more than an hour and you will see that there is more than "hit monster x with stick until you have killed y"

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Auw, I was hoping for Red Dead Redemption and instead he reviews a game I've never even heard of? Oh well, funny review nonetheless.

Agreed.
"OMg, yatzee doesn t like it! must be bhad!"

Form your own opinions.

Oh god. I really wish people would stop making this ignorant comment.

Should nobody look at any reviews at all for guidance because they are other peoples opinions? Do you not grasp that reviews can help deciding what may or may not be good about a game before people go and waste their money on it?

You may not agree with Yahtzee and his taste of games, but some people actually do. If you paid attention to his videos you'd find he LIKES a lot of what he critiques. He focuses on the bad points because 'professional' reviewers often do nothing but praise games that are frankly mediocre. And also because focusing on the bad points is obviously more entertaining. That doesn't mean he hates everything, and if you actually listened to his reviews you would be able to see that. This game, it was obvious he hated though (and from the sound of it, for good reason too)

Yahtzee's taste in games happen to coincide pretty damn close to my taste in games, with just a few exceptions worth noting, and no other critic or reviewer on the internet has a closer taste in games to mine than Yahtzee does. As a result I watch his videos not just for the humor but also to pay attention to what he says because a lot of his points are very valid to me and may help deciding if I will enjoy a game or not.

 

[Impluse_101]

And the sad thing is...my brother bought it for his Wii...

ITS....well thats all I can say. ITS...

 

[Jonci]

Actually i think he likes the games really, but we love him for his anger. If he tried to do a reveiw where he explains how brilliant it is, I think we would lose intrest and stop watching him.

The problem here is that, for anyone familiar with the game, it was obvious that Yahtzee did a poor job of reviewing the game. He has blasted games that he obviously liked, and was funny about it. But this one wasn't funny and wasn't even an accurate description. The phrase "phoned in it" would be understating how bad an effort he went into trying out MH3. I don't expect everyone to like the game, but this just felt disrespectful. I think some of Yahtzee's preconceptions about Japanese games and the Wii were more to do with this review than the actual game.

 

[veyn]

Yeah, if said person playing has ADHD. I mean, they take no less than 2 hours at most. The rest of the game eats up 100+ hours with fun.

 

[Enigma6667]

I honestly don't know why my friends are just soooo interested in this game. They're interested in it in the same way WoW-Addicts are addicted to WoW...and stuff.

I think it's because they only own a Wii, but just because you only own a Wii, doesn't mean you have to subject yourself to such shite.

 

[WarlockD]

This is why I play platforms anymore. I play WoW, mainly for the social aspect. But I will not grid hours in a god damn RPG for some trinket I will throw away in a few levels.

Play Mario Galaxy 2 for 22 hours sleight to get 189 stars till I pass out? That's different

As a side not, does Sony know who their advertisers are? There was this box around his video that you clicked on and it told all about the new "Evergrind 2" expansion. It seems odd they pay money for someone who rags on them all the time, but then that's Sony.

 

[Joemaster240]

i was talking about a refrence he MADE in the review...not the game itself

i loved watching this. FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN A REFERENCE TO another of NINTENDO's MASSIVE franchises that wasn't mario. I think he needs to do so more often because i loved the refrence.

MH is Capcom. Using caps makes you more wrong.

i was talking about a refrence he MADE in the review...not the game itself

 

[Wingleader]

Wow, Yahtzee completely missed the point of the game. Me thinks he didn't play long enough to fight some of the bigger monsters.

I agree... He didn't even get to any of the serious monsters, and the whole friggin point of the game is to hunt with OTHER PEOPLE. Offline mode is just the training wheels for the better stuff.

Frankly, this isn't the type of game that you can take a run-of-the-mill review format with because it's NOT a run-of-the-mill game.

 

[veyn]

Yeah, if said person playing has ADHD. I mean, they take no less than 2 hours at most. The rest of the game eats up 100+ hours with fun.

2 hours of boring is way too long. A slow start is fine if it is minimized. But keep it to half an hour AT MOST. And that is a stretch. Fuck, 2 hours of fetch quests. Good fucking god.

Like I said. ADHD. 2 hours is worth 100+ hours of good times with friends in my opinion. Kids these days just want that good ol' instant-gratification don't they.
If you're not prepared to learn how to play a game, which the tutorial quests help you with, you're just missing out.

 

[SkodLife]

I saw a review from Gamespot (I think it was). They said the game was good, but worked best with the gamecube/classic controller, which I found quiet funny. The only game I've seen so far which does this was SSBB (which I still to this day regret buying).

I've also noticed a few "He did not review the multiplayer/online-part of the game." FYI, Yahtzee has countless times said that a game should be able to stand up by the singleplayer part alone. It is a luxury that he even bothers play the game with his friends (coughcough).

Furthermore, if people have seen his FFXIII-review, they remember he only used 5 hours because he believes that a game shouldn't be played for over XX hours just to get to the main part of the game (that and he really can't stand Japanese RPGs).

Last thing: It's his show. If he want to say Halo 3 is a piece of crap, let him. Heck, if you remember the Witcher-review, he didn't even bother play it that much, because it gave him nightmares of playing MMORPGs (while it only was an RPG). And why do you watch this again? To see a reviewer talk about different games' shittiness (which is why we keep watch his show). Didn't he say it was his job at the Orange Box-review (where he couldn't find any bad thing to say about Portal)?

Let the flame begin.

 

[Impluse_101]

A sh*t game on the wii - oh no, what a surprise....When the adverts don't show the actual game, you know there's something it's trying to hide.

And yet everybody seemed to love Bioshock, Halo 3 and the like. I don't recall those games showing any gameplay in their adverts.

Nope not everyone liked those adverts either...

Btw...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
Hillarious

HOY MEETS BOY!

 

[Boaal]

So he managed to complete up to quest... 4? Nicely done, really you can get a lot of overview of this game from four quests...

I will admit that it is slow paced starting, and the Lagiacrus' first appearance had me diving into the sea in search of it too, and then I realised it wasn't coming back, not until much much later, so I just went killed all the other big monsters.

Point being that he missed the entire point of the game.