Zero Punctuation: Saints Row 2

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icnfde

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Domasylum said:
But we're also talking about two Sandbox Crime games, and the bottom line is, there's no way GTA4 can be outdone by a festival of blood and dicks.
Oh, but it has. It also sounds like you're taking the game way too seriously. Take off those realism glasses, because apparently comedy and satire don't exist in your world.
 

Hiroshi Mishima

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Yes, I have heard a lot of good things about the Saints Row games from various friends, and if Yahtzee himself felt it was a decent game, then I may have to pick up the PC version next year. Heavens forbid I can actually afford a 360 anytime soon and all. <_<;

I really enjoyed the review, too. I laughed a fair ammount, which is always good with these.

The last good GTA game insofar as I am concerned was Vice City. San Andreas was too dreary, the races are annoying as hell, and gods the game was just too ... well, coffee filter coloured. Not trying to make a racist remark but there were browns and greys everywhere. CJ's clothes always looked dusty. That's it, dusty, the game had a very dusty look. I hear GTA4 also suffers from a massive ammount of dust.

Vice City had the best music (go 80's), was brighter and more cheerful. And a lot more comedic, too.
 

Therumancer

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Hmmm well I do tend to agree that SR 2 is better than GTA IV, however I would remind everyone that despite the comments comparing the two, Yahtzee seemed to like GTA IV in his review also, despite making a lot of the same criticisms.

Overall I tend to agree that they need to find ways of balancing realism and fun. I do not think the two are mutally exclusive.

I like Yahtzee's supervillain idea. It seems the general idea for a game like that has been out there for a while, but no one really ran with it. For example they came up with that "Infamous" game that still has to be released, but apparently it doesn't feature any real character customization.

If someone could say combine Saint's Row and the City Of Heroes/Villains franchise into a single player sandbox game with heavy character creation it would be awesome beyond belief.
 

gamergal126

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CMWaters said:
Two things:

1)I wholeheartedly endorse giving Yahtzee whatever means necessary to have that Supervillain Sandbox style game see the light of day.

2)I would have never, EVER, *EVER* (shifts to 1999 Chris Jericho)EEEEEEEEVER (shifts back to normal) expected Yahtzee to make a Team Rocket reference.
ditto on both counts!
 

The Youth Counselor

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I've wanted a Gotham City Sandbox game for many years, and with comics being extremely popular and sandbox games really popular too, WHY HAVEN'T I PLAYED THE RIDDLER COMMITTING A SHIT CRIME?

Roses are Red
Mahogany is Brown
and so is poo.
You're in the crapper Batman.
So pull yourself off the can!
 

L4Y Duke

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OK, I got it working now. Probably site traffic issues.

Here's hoping his Batman Villian game gets made!
 

Parakirby

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Has anyone mentioned the game 'Evil Genius' for PC to Yahtzee yet?

You play as one of three evil geniuses who attempt to take over the world. Hire minions, fend off agents trying to take you down. The missions you do are completely optional, though you have to do some as part of a set.

You eventually DO build up one of three doomsday devices. It's an awesome game.
 

Sayvara

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Heh... it's apparent Yahtzee has not been trying out City of Heroes/City of Villains. Practically most of the intro of the review could equally well be describing CoX since it :

- Is a sandbox city crime game
- Is a game where you can play both batman and a batman villain
- Has character customization that is straight-jackert-wearning, small-animal-tormening insane.
- Has freeze rays and jetpacs.

For example: me and me roleplaying buddies wanted to roleplay 17'th century pirates that had gotten hijacked by a time-warp and landed us in modern day Paragon City. And guess what: the char customization lets us be exactly that... all the way down to Adjanah's cute shoulder dragon Francis [http://xadhoom.deviantart.com/art/Adjanah-the-Pirate-FINISHED-22031778].

Anyway: fun review, and most informative I thoght. :)

/S
 

walkerist

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In my opinion GTA is a better game then Saints Row 2. And as for Roman, am I the only one who threw bricks at him before dismantling him with a shotgun? Most of the fun in that game required you to make it up yourself, I actually liked that, felt the game gave you a pat on the back for bothering to drive a motorcycle up onto a rooftop so you drive off onto cars and pedestrians below. I guess I preferred that to being force fed mini games.

I must agree though that games are beginning to opt for compelling story lines and in your face graphics then good old pistol whipping, Bacon grilling, Bullet dodging, B.F.G fun which we used to get. These modern games lack imagination. (Fracture, a good example of an unimaginative idea added to a simplistic shitty 3rd person shooter). I'm looking forward to games like Brutal Legend. Games that show imagination. That the creators took more time into thinking up ideas then spending vast amounts of cash on advertising and calculating their profits (or if we're talking about 3D realms, playing world of warcraft and shlobbing).

Also nice vids. Very entertaining, honest as well.
 

S.T.U.D.

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Also forgot to add, I don't know if Yahtzee was being sarcastic, but old ladies CAN be thrown into a turbine, but likely by chance. Crowd Control activity at the airport map, hopefully an old lady will pop up.
 

R0B0_Ninja

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I've been kind of disappointed with the last 5 reviews, but then the joke about car-jacking had me laughing thought the entire review. Good one!

BTW. Why does Yahtzee keep using that picture of David Hasselhoff?
 

REvolve

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I Liked:

Constant going on at old ladies
Brief mention of fun vs realism

I disliked:

Comparison to GTA4 (I guess its necessary though)
The fact that you didn't really say anything super-villain worthy this week

Keep it up.
 

clubhaus

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I would actually buy this game after watching this review. That usually can't be said after one of his reviews. I loved the "massaging" of the tail pipe.....Is it weird I was excited by that??!!
 

laikenf

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I think this was a very well balanced review. First real review he's done in months. This review just goes to prove that you can be funny without all the negativity.