Zero Punctuation: Star Trek
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Didn't he like it? I get the vague feeling that Yahtzee didn't like it.
Also, this is the first review I've seen of Yahtzee's where the page of comments isn't full of people decrying how they only "Watch his videos for the comedy" because he tore apart a game they loved and he clearly "isn't a reviewer, just a comedian".
Also, this is the first review I've seen of Yahtzee's where the page of comments isn't full of people decrying how they only "Watch his videos for the comedy" because he tore apart a game they loved and he clearly "isn't a reviewer, just a comedian".
That used to be the case until they worked to hard to make second one [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine:_The_Fallen] was okay.valium said:
The Starfleet Command [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Starfleet_Command] series was pretty good. It was based, however on the tabletop game Star Fleet Battles the diegesis of which diverged from the Star Trek canon. Star Fleet in SFB is significantly more of a specialized military service (bearing fewer resources and responsibilities regarding scientific inquiry and exploration) than it is in Star Trek proper.
Final Unity [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation_%E2%80%93_A_Final_Unity] was a decent point-and-click adventure, albeit with its rough edges. The ship was uncontrollable in the mini-game when I played it, but you can delegate around those sequences. The story actually feels like a Star Trek TNG plotline unlike other games in which the diegesis was shoehorned a bit into respective game genres.
Though it was not well liked by many, I was fond of DS9: The Fallen [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine:_The_Fallen], a third-person jumper-shooter with climbing elements. This one had the first actually-useful tricorder which could detect life, structural weaknesses and clear transporter zones (at which you could get resupplied).
Then there was Star Trek Armada [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Armada] (the first one, not II) which was a halfway decent RTS. Not so, Star Trek: Away Team.
And then Star Trek: Bridge Commander [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Bridge_Commander] was pretty great, and the one time that it really felt like you were sitting in The Chair.
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I'll ignore the crack on STO, though I suppose "it got a lot better a year after release" isn't much of a defense in an objective sense.
That said I would have been far more impressed if this game was actually good. To be honest I don't think much of the Star Trek reboot as I felt the script of the first one was really pushing the limits of belief within the constraints of it's own universe. It seems like since "Nemesis" was mediocre they felt the need to pretty much toss all the continuity out the door and create an even bigger monstrosity, honeslty with the new cast and the demographic the JJ Abrams movies seem to be going for, I think "Bro Op" oddly fits with in with a game attached to that franchise.
So basically a "meh" alternative universe, spawning a terrible game... pretty much status quo.
I do think Jason Statham as Picard would be awesome in an absurd way though, the stuff of a good satire rather than an actual reboot.
That said I would have been far more impressed if this game was actually good. To be honest I don't think much of the Star Trek reboot as I felt the script of the first one was really pushing the limits of belief within the constraints of it's own universe. It seems like since "Nemesis" was mediocre they felt the need to pretty much toss all the continuity out the door and create an even bigger monstrosity, honeslty with the new cast and the demographic the JJ Abrams movies seem to be going for, I think "Bro Op" oddly fits with in with a game attached to that franchise.
So basically a "meh" alternative universe, spawning a terrible game... pretty much status quo.
I do think Jason Statham as Picard would be awesome in an absurd way though, the stuff of a good satire rather than an actual reboot.
Why bother, when the movie it's based on is about shooting everything in the face anyway?SonOfVoorhees said:
You know 25th Anniversary had a brilliant sequel...don't you?CyborgGinger said:
Judgment Rites was not just one of the best Star Trek games but one of the best video games period.valium said:
The hypothetical sexy Next Generation reboot made me cringe and wretch a bit. Yahtzee proves further his credentials as a horror writer.
The best Star Trek Game ever is the 25th Anniversary Adventure Game. Space Combat, diplomacy, and problem solving. Just not a great action game on the ground. Second best is Star Control 2.
Mass Effect was okay - except NO SPACE COMBAT.
FTL is definitely closer.
Mass Effect was okay - except NO SPACE COMBAT.
FTL is definitely closer.
That bit about Waiting for Spock when he has been creamed by an elevator...now I just see Kirk and Vladimir standing at the exit area...
Vladimir: What do we do now?
Kirk: Wait.
Yes, but while waiting.
What about hanging ourselves?
Hmm. It'd give us an erection.
An erection!
With all that follows.
Where it falls mandrakes grow.
That's why they shriek when you pull them up.
Did you not know that?
Let's hang ourselves immediately!
...You must gather your party before venturing forth...
EDIT: Shit. Spock is Vladimir...a...a...and Kirk is Estragon!
Vladimir: What do we do now?
Kirk: Wait.
Yes, but while waiting.
What about hanging ourselves?
Hmm. It'd give us an erection.
An erection!
With all that follows.
Where it falls mandrakes grow.
That's why they shriek when you pull them up.
Did you not know that?
Let's hang ourselves immediately!
...You must gather your party before venturing forth...
EDIT: Shit. Spock is Vladimir...a...a...and Kirk is Estragon!
Hear, Hear. 25th anniversary was the best Star Trek game I've ever played. One of the best adventures of the time too.JSW said:
You been wrong many times then.Kmadden2004 said:
The best Trek game is and probably will remain: Bridge Commander. Nothing really to discuss.
Aside from that, Mass Effect has zero to do with Trek aside from being set in space and featuring preposterous aliens.
So a game where you go from planet to planet on behalf of a coalition of alien species (a federation, if you will), where you pick out two extra characters to form an away team (who will usually be the same two people) to go exploring new worlds, engage in missions where diplomacy can often hold just as much weight as firefights, and where the ship's commanding officer sleeps around with aliens...teh_gunslinger said:
Yeah, you're right, that's nothing like Star Trek, what was I thinking?
Yes it was. It was incredible. As well as the Civ-in-space thing, you also got a limited amount of control in space battles, and there were unknown anomalous entities that would require taking down.. First time I managed to take down a Borg cube I was ecstatic.b.w.irenicus said:Anyone remembers Birth of the Federation? That game was awesome (yeahactually it wasn't THAT great, but shut up ^^). You could chose to be Federation, Klingon, Romulans or Cadassians and build your space empire like in Civilisation. I was a huge sucker for Star Strek and especially DS9 at the time so I absolutly loved it.
Captchs: run amok -> No, I won't
Definitely the best ST game, although Elite Force, Bridge Commander and to a lesser extent Armada were also good.
The best Star Trek games are as followed in no particular order:
1: Starfleet Command series- Orion Pirates was the best out that bunch.
2: Bridge Commander- A brilliant space combat sim with a good story.
3: Klingon Academy- It's like Bridge Commander only more complex with different space environments. Planet rings were the best.
4: Elite force- Good all round FPS
5: Birth of the Federation: Once you got past the UI it was true little gem.
This game however was blagh. Just plain old blagh.
1: Starfleet Command series- Orion Pirates was the best out that bunch.
2: Bridge Commander- A brilliant space combat sim with a good story.
3: Klingon Academy- It's like Bridge Commander only more complex with different space environments. Planet rings were the best.
4: Elite force- Good all round FPS
5: Birth of the Federation: Once you got past the UI it was true little gem.
This game however was blagh. Just plain old blagh.
