Zero Punctuation: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
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I'm with bakery on this one. Actually, I saw the originals before the prequels, and I honestly liked the prequels better. And I've got a couple good reasons:BBQ Platypus post=6.73484.799403 said:
1.) A more in-depth view of the force- F*** Midi-chlorians , other than being mentioned, it doesn't change a thing about how awesome the Jedi are. But first, yes I know- A Jedi cannot fall in love. That sucks, but It makes sense when you think about it.(In reality, Lust could make someone do some pretty bad stuff at times. Love could lead to lust(Not all the time, obviously), and lust would lead to corruption, so the Jedi didn't want a chance with that. Oh, crap, I got sidetracked. Anyways, back on topic...)
2.)General Grievous- Enough said.
3.)Some memorable scenes for those who appreciate- The Arena battle on Geonosis, The "Unveiling" of the Clone Army, and also Order 66 are truly memorable parts in the prequels.
4.)The CGI- I've got no Idea why everyone whines about this: The effects look a lot much better than the originals(at least, in my opinion), and those already looked cool. The CGI definitely looked cool in some parts, like the battle over coruscant(The explosions were awesome and the cruisers were too.)
5.)Definitely a lot more emotion: While Episodes I and II weren't so stirring, Episode III was, Especially with Order 66 and seeing the Jedi cut down by their troops, Not to mention Anakin's Sith transformation.
Looking back, there might have been a few flaws with the prequels, but nothing big that diminishes how I feel about all III.
One last thing: Ever been to any of the "Celebrations" or at least see the fan-base? If you think their views are B.S., then you've got a lot of debating...
Uh-oh, my post here is smelling like a rant/flaming. I better stop here.
This is all off-topic but I just can't help myself.
You mustn't have been too good if you can't find one thing better. I also would like to add that you could continue this arguement in one of the off-topic forums, which is where this sort of thing is meant to be. Just a suggestion.BBQ Platypus post=6.73484.799403 said:
i have the Xbox 360 versoin it worked fine. all i did was download a demo of it on xbox live market place first. it is a good game Wii would be hard to use for me but i just perfer xbox over the Wii
First off, I don't know why people are harping on this review. I found it better than last week's. Then again, I one of you silly people who actually play a game before it is reviewed. What's the point of watching a review about a game you've already wasted your money on, and already know whether you like it or not?
Anyways, I really loved how he kept pushing. There kept being jokes that were good enough to end on, but then he'd take it further. And the next joke was even funnier. This is actually one the better reviews in recent memory.
Now to do the obligatory "respondgripe at the posters:
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This next one doesn't get a quote. But please, people, learn how to spell midi-chlorian. I haven't even seen the prequels and I know that.
Anyways, I really loved how he kept pushing. There kept being jokes that were good enough to end on, but then he'd take it further. And the next joke was even funnier. This is actually one the better reviews in recent memory.
Now to do the obligatory "
You do realize that you yourself are participating in a thread that you think should be taken to the off-topic forums? And that, if it were really that off topic, the mods (and not you) would make that suggestion?perfectimo post=6.73484.799606 said:
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This next one doesn't get a quote. But please, people, learn how to spell midi-chlorian. I haven't even seen the prequels and I know that.
Thankyou very much, I hadn't realised when I said "This is all off-topic but I just can't help myself." that I was off topic, I should really read what I write, hey?trlkly post=6.73484.799851 said:
You can't see it being off topic discussing which movie trilogy was better in a forum in response to a game review?
I know this is off topic a bit since we are in a SW:TFU thread, and not a prequel one, but episode 3 is my pick for the top Star Wars film. While it didn't break the sci-fi mold like episode 4 it was almost flawless. If the really retarded, and lame romantic dialogue between "Ani", and Padme was fixed I would have no complaints. However, seeing as how I doubt Lucas has had a real relationship with a female before getting rich I can forgive the fact he has no capability to make a layered character love relation.
Back on topic, I honestly love Yahtzee's reviews, but lately they are starting to get repetitive, and rather incoherent. I am starting to gain an understanding with the people who argue there should be some sort of grading system. To put it bluntly it's becoming impossible to know definitively whether he enjoyed the game at all. While Yahtzee has always put even his favored games under his nit-picking microscope he would at least make it clear if he recommends a game or not by the finale in the video. However, now it seems as if he flips a coin to decide whether to just completely bash the game, or will even mention the silver lining. It's important to not take the reviews too seriously, but at the same time it's refreshing to hear a cynics opinion to burst the stagnant hype bubble created by so many companies these days. Especially with flawed games like GTA IV, and MGS4 receiving perfect scores from everyone except the people who actually had to pay for them.
Finally, what the hell is the deal with the comments like, "finally someone who sees the truth about SW:TFU.", or comments about agreeing with Yahtzee's criticisms, but then make it apparent they are talking about the 360/PS3 versions when it was the Wii version being bashed. First off, the average scores the game has been receiving is in the mid 7.0 range. I fail to see how the game receiving a mediocre score adds any weight to the argument that the game is receiving undeserved credit. I really doubt Yahtzee is going to think more kindly of people kissing his ass! In fact it will most likely make him hate you even more then he already does, and yes it is pretty obvious that HE HATES YOU!
Back on topic, I honestly love Yahtzee's reviews, but lately they are starting to get repetitive, and rather incoherent. I am starting to gain an understanding with the people who argue there should be some sort of grading system. To put it bluntly it's becoming impossible to know definitively whether he enjoyed the game at all. While Yahtzee has always put even his favored games under his nit-picking microscope he would at least make it clear if he recommends a game or not by the finale in the video. However, now it seems as if he flips a coin to decide whether to just completely bash the game, or will even mention the silver lining. It's important to not take the reviews too seriously, but at the same time it's refreshing to hear a cynics opinion to burst the stagnant hype bubble created by so many companies these days. Especially with flawed games like GTA IV, and MGS4 receiving perfect scores from everyone except the people who actually had to pay for them.
Finally, what the hell is the deal with the comments like, "finally someone who sees the truth about SW:TFU.", or comments about agreeing with Yahtzee's criticisms, but then make it apparent they are talking about the 360/PS3 versions when it was the Wii version being bashed. First off, the average scores the game has been receiving is in the mid 7.0 range. I fail to see how the game receiving a mediocre score adds any weight to the argument that the game is receiving undeserved credit. I really doubt Yahtzee is going to think more kindly of people kissing his ass! In fact it will most likely make him hate you even more then he already does, and yes it is pretty obvious that HE HATES YOU!
Sorry for the double post, but I had to comment on this. Platypus obviously you must have been sleeping through your sessions. You claim to know the "fundamentals" of debating, but considering how one of the most important lessons is that a good debater can create a strong argument for any topic. In all honesty a 5 year old could make a valid argument with something as simple as the special effects, or sound quality.perfectimo post=6.73484.799606 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
Awesome review again. Felt the same on this game as Merc2; played the demo and was severely underwhelmed by it. Had a few people try to tell me it was good and the story line excellent to which they received a quick slap to the face and now I can point them in the direction of this video.
Actually, the Wii version generally considered one of the better versions of the game. There is zero platforming in the game, and while I would normally say that's bad, apparently the 360/PS3 version did it badly enough that people would rather not have it at all. The Wii/PS2/PSP versions also got extra force powers. For the Wii, forget trying to do combos like "up down" yatta yatta and just swing again as soon as your last swing ends in the game, and you ought to combo well enough. But yeah, I dig the force powers. And I was surprised how well the "Force Locks" and "Saber Locks" work in the game. It's better than a traditional quick-time event, wouldn't you say? I mean, you hate all games with quick-time events except for the mother-of-all-quicktime events games, the God of War series (well daughter, I guess Shenmue would be the mother), so at least spicing it up with a bit more realism and predictability has to count for something, yeah?
Ok I agree, though he got one thing clearly wrong: It's not the Wii's but the developers fault. If Nintendo made this game themselves then it would have way better graphics and good combat as they seem to be the only ones who know to make good graphics and controles on the Wii unlike nearly every 3rd-party developer.
Now if you want good lightsaber combat then go play No More Heroes. The sequel has been announced already as well.
Now if you want good lightsaber combat then go play No More Heroes. The sequel has been announced already as well.
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I found the game gladly free of references to the forbidden three films (no characters clone troopers etc). I played ont he PS3 and found the game play fine but the in game graphics were far better than the FMV cut scenes (but how!).
I'd also like to wave a flag for the story line, which contributed to the star wars universe well instead of indulging in gratuitous self indulgence. If more films today had the stroy telling qualities found in games today, I'd be a much happier bunny.
Although, really, a man who can pull star destroyers out of orbit, defeat vader AND the Emporer in the same room? After the pod racing, starhip killing, droid building antics of Anekin as well, Luke is begining ot look a bit of a pansy as jedi go.
I found the game gladly free of references to the forbidden three films (no characters clone troopers etc). I played ont he PS3 and found the game play fine but the in game graphics were far better than the FMV cut scenes (but how!).
I'd also like to wave a flag for the story line, which contributed to the star wars universe well instead of indulging in gratuitous self indulgence. If more films today had the stroy telling qualities found in games today, I'd be a much happier bunny.
Although, really, a man who can pull star destroyers out of orbit, defeat vader AND the Emporer in the same room? After the pod racing, starhip killing, droid building antics of Anekin as well, Luke is begining ot look a bit of a pansy as jedi go.