Zero Punctuation: XCOM: Enemy Unknown
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This was my favorite reviews of all time. First: I'm loving this game and i'm rather addicted.
Second: The news at the end is the best news i've had all day
I will be running to the book store in about 30 minutes!
Third: About the whole losing your best troops and having to restart. FROM EXPERIENCE i promise thats...only...kinda true ._. I had a mission where i lost all but two off my best men, i had nothing but recruits left after that. The key to my survival?
Snipers. Keep those bastards alive and trained at all costs! I managed to get through the next two UFO missions by luring out the aliens with my recruits and having my snipers pick them off from safety using a perk that allowed them to have infinite range so long as a fellow soldier had line of sight.
Snipers are the key. On the downside, everytime that happens you're almost garenteed to lose atleast one nation. I had an even worse situation where i only got out with one heavy alive, i truely have no clue how i managed to salvedge that.
-Side note: I've been playing on ironman mode since game one, so having to deal with losing my whole squad was more of a forced choice. BUT I DID IT
Second: The news at the end is the best news i've had all day
I will be running to the book store in about 30 minutes!Third: About the whole losing your best troops and having to restart. FROM EXPERIENCE i promise thats...only...kinda true ._. I had a mission where i lost all but two off my best men, i had nothing but recruits left after that. The key to my survival?
Snipers. Keep those bastards alive and trained at all costs! I managed to get through the next two UFO missions by luring out the aliens with my recruits and having my snipers pick them off from safety using a perk that allowed them to have infinite range so long as a fellow soldier had line of sight.
Snipers are the key. On the downside, everytime that happens you're almost garenteed to lose atleast one nation. I had an even worse situation where i only got out with one heavy alive, i truely have no clue how i managed to salvedge that.
-Side note: I've been playing on ironman mode since game one, so having to deal with losing my whole squad was more of a forced choice. BUT I DID IT
No. Not by turns. I make one main save and one Interim Save in case I have to leave the game for whatever reason. I don't do step-by step saves.Ragnarok2kx said:
And the RNG for Fire Emblem isn't the same between games. Some of them have their random seeding "stepped" by turns, others by frame/action.
I'm just exceptionally fucking unlucky then, because it seems as though nothing short of full-cover does anything noticeable for my evasion, while I frequently miss targets out in the open.Tallim said:
I stopped playing after the fourth consecutive mission where I watched five of my soldiers miss reaction fire against the same target in a row (out in the open). Fucking ludicrous.
Captcha: Third time in a row that I've had to enter this same captcha. Good job. Really keeping those bots honest. Fucking waste of time...
If only the RNG wasn't such a cruel mistress. Save-scumming really *is* a requirement :/
And watching 5 of your soldiers die after you did everything right but were unlucky should never happen in a decent game imo.
Yes, I know you can just order a french batch of soldiers. That's not the point.
Examples:
An elite soldier should be able to shoot at an alien 5meters away with 100% accuracy, no excuses.
A soldier hiding behind a SOLID WALL should be UNTOUCHABLE period.
Both of these examples ^ are an uncertainty in Xcom. I've had 6 misses in a row with a 50% chance to hit, followed by a CRIT (10% chance upon a hit) on a soldier behind HEAVY COVER (probably about 20-30% or less chance to be hit), killing the soldier instantly 100->0.
And watching 5 of your soldiers die after you did everything right but were unlucky should never happen in a decent game imo.
Yes, I know you can just order a french batch of soldiers. That's not the point.
Examples:
An elite soldier should be able to shoot at an alien 5meters away with 100% accuracy, no excuses.
A soldier hiding behind a SOLID WALL should be UNTOUCHABLE period.
Both of these examples ^ are an uncertainty in Xcom. I've had 6 misses in a row with a 50% chance to hit, followed by a CRIT (10% chance upon a hit) on a soldier behind HEAVY COVER (probably about 20-30% or less chance to be hit), killing the soldier instantly 100->0.
In other words, it's absolutely fantastic, then.
.....Dammit, if I wasn't in the middle of midterm season with a large backlog of games already, I would grab this up right now.
.....Dammit, if I wasn't in the middle of midterm season with a large backlog of games already, I would grab this up right now.
I generally try to keep Nigeria in the game so that I can get the All In bonus (which is really handy at the start of the game); and they always seem to last. Weirdly, it's Egypt that always gives me problems in Africa. Either they're being needy and are constantly asking for all of my resources and tech, or they're pulling out outright and screwing over my interception plans.kajinking said:
On Topic: I figured that Yahtzee would enjoy XCOM, it seems very much the style of game that would suit him.
The game is great.. and I don't even like strategy games, especially ones with messy resource management and base building. Just finally caved in to picking the game up yesterday and I'm finding myself enjoying it a lot. There's just something compelling and satisfying about how they've put everything together. As Yahtzee says, there is a synergy to the way your in base and on ground activities work.
Yhatzee didn't liked Dish-on-a-red... and he did liked Eggs-com...
I don't know what to think...
EDIT: What I meant by that, is that he stated many times that he didn't liked strategy games and that he liked the Thief series, even saying something about a massive erection slaping everyone in a room, or something like that, but to my surprise, it turned out to be the other way around.
I want to play both, but I'm definitely leaning more towards Xcom due to it's replayability.
I don't know what to think...
EDIT: What I meant by that, is that he stated many times that he didn't liked strategy games and that he liked the Thief series, even saying something about a massive erection slaping everyone in a room, or something like that, but to my surprise, it turned out to be the other way around.
I want to play both, but I'm definitely leaning more towards Xcom due to it's replayability.
Maybe that he doesn't have the same tastes in gaming as you do?SupahGamuh said:
OT: I was leaning towards X-COM over Dishonored before, and everyone else on the internet gave them both 9/10, so I think this might be the only time I was ever even slightly influenced by Yahtzee's opinion. Except when he influenced me into learning of Painkiller, which was amazing and everyone should play it.
He didnt like the old game because of the interface??? how about any criticism worth of mention like, how much of the customization was lost in the new game and etc?? Is that really your best?
And now that you suddenly like Turn Based Strategy, how about we see you play Heroes 3 Of Might And Magic?? or how about the RTS+FPS+Management Sim hybrid know as Dungeon Keeper? You despice being the coward commander who directs the orders from the sky but you like being a man of action, here is a game where you can do both. How does it hold up?
And if this version off XCOM is too luck based for you then you will eat your hat when you play FTL: Faster Than Light.
And now that you suddenly like Turn Based Strategy, how about we see you play Heroes 3 Of Might And Magic?? or how about the RTS+FPS+Management Sim hybrid know as Dungeon Keeper? You despice being the coward commander who directs the orders from the sky but you like being a man of action, here is a game where you can do both. How does it hold up?
And if this version off XCOM is too luck based for you then you will eat your hat when you play FTL: Faster Than Light.
Yay. Now all his blind dribbling fans can go buy it and this game can become successful in the eyes of the game industry and send a message of anti-FPS bullshit to the rest of the companies out there and hopefully even encourage them to finally cancel that other XCOM game they were making that was horrible. And maybe a remake of Syndicate that's actually a strategy game, that'd be cool.
That's the best part about this new XCOM too: the potential for stories. Every single person who has played the game has a story just like the one he told at the end of the video, and it's awesome.
That's the best part about this new XCOM too: the potential for stories. Every single person who has played the game has a story just like the one he told at the end of the video, and it's awesome.
the cover in XCOM doesn't work like that5ilver said:
unless you use "hunker down" your soldier is not just hiding behind the cover, he's sticking his head out so he can see what's going on, and in that case, he got his face shot off.
I agree that an elite soldier should be able to hit a target 5m away, assuming there isn't some other circumstance. If they were behind cover, then maybe they ducked just before the shot was fired, or if the weapon is crap close in because it's too heavy to swing like that. But for the most part, yeah, there are some really stupid misses.