You need to go to a survival board. Your scenario gears are base on movies and games. It's not realistic.Heronblade said:-I have no intention of carrying everything around with me, only having it available if a situation calls for it. The riot gear for example would only be donned if poking into a close quarters area. I'm also a big strong guy used to lugging crap around to little purpose.The Heik said:Wow, that is a lot of thought you've put in there. Shame you've forgotten the most important aspect of preparation: Mass. Even when you don't consider all the ancillary gear and backup weapons that you'd have to load in the FED (which might not even fit in it), the main armament you'd be carrying about (plus extra ammunition and tools) would weigh between 25-50 pounds, which makes moving around not only difficult but uncomfortable as well. You'd pass out trying to lug all that around should things go belly up, even if you try to minimize what you carry and stick to your vehicle for most travel.Heronblade said:ze snip
-I've packed for major outdoor trips using a vehicle roughly the size of the FED before, the guns, armor, and compact generators being the only items I haven't had to account for before. Somehow I think I can get them to fit into the roughly 40 cubic feet of space I normally leave empty (to be later filled by other campers and their personal stuff)
-When push comes to shove, that list is what I would take if all preparations go perfectly (a somewhat unlikely scenario all things considered), fully intending to leave some behind if and when necessary. If forced to pare that list down only to the absolute bare essentials, I could still make the plan work with a little extra luck while bringing only a hiking bag filled with 60 lbs of gear. Of course, I would be stealing a few cars from the dead on the way, and scavenging quite a bit more than intended in that case, both actions increase the risk substantially. Also, if that occurs, I might actually change gears and head south, hot weather gear has less mass and bulk to them, and heat can do the same job cold will, although not nearly as cleanly.
First thing the government will do shit. They have other things to deal with than rescuing your family and you. In an Apocalypse scenario order breaks down. Government breaks down. Everybody is on their own.dyre said:I'd barricade my house (in a medium-populated suburb) with the rest of my family, get in the attic and pull up the stairs after piling up food/ loads of water/ lights/ batteries/ etc (hopefully the internet will be up long enough for me to do some quick research on survival essentials), and hope that the government takes care of it. If not, I'd wait until our supplies run out and hope that our Ruger Mark III .22 pistol is powerful enough to commit suicide with...
edit: If I was feeling especially courageous, I'd try to book a private flight to some small, obscure island nation that has civilization and enough agriculture to sustain itself.
Shotgun and other firearms doesn't knock people back and down. That only happen in the movies.Heronblade said:Because most bullets have about as much affect on a corpse as they would a pile of dirt, and almost all melee weapons require getting within biting reach (the ones that don't take years of training to use properly). Most guns are only as effective as they are normally because the person hit can quickly bleed to death, not really a problem for the undead, or for a living person blinded by something like the "rage virus" in that one movie.ssgt splatter said:btw, why is it always shotguns are the weapons of choice during a zombie apocalypse?
A shotgun on the other hand is easy to use and aim, usable in close to midrange quarters, and spreads the kinetic force over a large enough area to knock the target back and down. It is also capable of pulping flesh to the point that it is physically unusable.
You know what the problem with your scenario? Everybody will do the same thing. If the owner or employees isn't at the shop, whoever get there first will get all the guns and ammo. For the people that disagree with him, they'll get shot.Ix Rebound said:Mostly likely for me:
run down to the gun shop.
grab some guns and ammo
turns out i made too much noise and now im surrounded
hopefully i get a couple before im overwhelmed
pop myself in the head(zombies aren't getting me!)
It going to be a long wait. If the zombie don't get you, you probably shoot yourself in the head to end your suffering. No one going to come and help you in an Apocalypse scenario. They have their own problems to deal with.henritje said:finally get some use out of my Zombie Survival guide!
1.store water
2.move food to second floor
3.destroy the stairs
4.hang up sign,s on the roof asking for help
5.wait it out.
hahahaCorruptCor3 said:Any gun will just attract more zombies than it kills, so i would have to go with baseball bat and hand axes, and then get on a ferry or cruise liner, raiding coastal towns like a pirate.
\jdun said:It going to be a long wait. If the zombie don't get you, you probably shoot yourself in the head to end your suffering. No one going to come and help you in an Apocalypse scenario. They have their own problems to deal with.henritje said:finally get some use out of my Zombie Survival guide!
1.store water
2.move food to second floor
3.destroy the stairs
4.hang up sign,s on the roof asking for help
5.wait it out.
Thank you very much for calling me a liar, twice in a row, really appreciate that.jdun said:You need to go to a survival board. Your scenario gears are base on movies and games. It's not realistic.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/
From experience, humping 70-100lds of gears is not fun. In fact it's back breaking. In an apocalypse scenario you won't have a vehicle. If you do you won't get far because of blocked roads and lack of fuel.
A typical survival person travel light. He only needs the tools that allow him to live off the land. For examples: fish line and hook, lighter, knife, paracord, trauma kit, compass, map, small eating utensils, thin light weight compact plastic sheet that can keep you dry, water bottle, etc. All these will be put in a 3 day backpack.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/diplomat-3-day-backpack1.html
For weapons, survival people will only carrier .22lr light weight rifles like the Papoose.
http://youtu.be/32FgaIb66bM
And yes I do have my survival 3 days backpack gears ready to bug out if needed.
In almost all Apocalypse scenarios including the zombie version the real threat isn't zombies or wild animals. The real threat is other humans.henritje said:\jdun said:It going to be a long wait. If the zombie don't get you, you probably shoot yourself in the head to end your suffering. No one going to come and help you in an Apocalypse scenario. They have their own problems to deal with.henritje said:finally get some use out of my Zombie Survival guide!
1.store water
2.move food to second floor
3.destroy the stairs
4.hang up sign,s on the roof asking for help
5.wait it out.
in that case I would sneak out and hope the zombies don,t get to me (considering firearms are forbidden in Europe I can only defend myself with melee weapons) I would probably head to the country side (there are allot of farms in my area)
What?Baff said:Rob the gun shop? Raid the school armoury?