We have entire political dynasties of families happening just fine under capitalism pillaging national stockpiles for personal gain, but the real problem is the specter of communism.A guess you've never heard of kings
We have entire political dynasties of families happening just fine under capitalism pillaging national stockpiles for personal gain, but the real problem is the specter of communism.A guess you've never heard of kings
Hey it's the same logic.Sure, if we ignore the actual timelines and intents of those two statements, divorcing them of all real context in the interests of winning a meaningless semantic argument in defense of morons saying to trust the science that says women aren't people.
Cause under capitalism they can still lose. Under Communism you can make it so you can't.We have entire political dynasties of families happening just fine under capitalism pillaging national stockpiles for personal gain, but the real problem is the specter of communism.
Well, I didn't want to shock him with the fact that the CURRENT system of economics has lead to plenty of tyrannical rulers.... that he has constantly complained about. The worst part.... those political dynasties are the only thing stopping CEOs from controlling our lives. Capitalism is greatWe have entire political dynasties of families happening just fine under capitalism pillaging national stockpiles for personal gain, but the real problem is the specter of communism.
HAHHAHAHAHA. That's funnyCause under capitalism they can still lose. Under Communism you can make it so you can't.
Got to keep their billions, got to keep their investments, got an active shield against prosecution...HAHHAHAHAHA. That's funny
Well, I suppose the Sackler family were removed from their companies... but got to keep billions of dollars. So you're right... that sure is a loss
Yes, I can see how saying "women aren't people" defends a woman's humanity. Makes perfect sense.Hey it's the same logic.
As I pointed out using the term female was deemed offensive because it depersonalises women or something so yeh using people also would do that.
Does the gluten free stuff not sit right next to the normal stuff in the UK?Maybe where you are.
In the whole "There may be problems ahead period" just before UK lockdowns started some of the gluten free stuff was running low. I ended up picking up potato pasta just incase at one point.
You want to know why the gluten free stuff was left on the shelf and people rushed to buy everything else?
1) Most people don't realise about gluten free stuff so likely went to their normal places to get the products not the gluten free sections / areas.
2) It tends to taste worse than normal stuff anyway.
Cool. Conservative arguments about gender has been 2 + 2 = 5. It hasn't ever made sense. That's why its changing. THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS. It's just them that's been pretending there is 5There are people who claim there isn't such a thing as Gluten intolerance lol. You probably hoped that was just some insane idea but no it's a thing.
2+2 does = 4 in almost every circumstance when you don't change the actual question. There were 4 lights.
No. You don't. That's been the problem with what you are saying. You don't even have to believe in what something thinks is gender to you their preferred pronoun. It's called not being a jerk. Not doing it is just about you forcing your ideology onto others. And requires far less effort, as a society, than providing gluten intolerant people food. And again, even if you think they're coming out with the wrong answer, you're not the one coming out with the right answer either. It doesn't fit realityIn my example you would have to eat gluten free food merely because I also do. Thus in my example you must accept 2+2 = 17,000,000 is the right answer because you're accounting for everyone to be included at the same time.
One bad trans make them all bad right? TERFs were ALWAYS going to use this tactic. They did it before Yaniv. And Yaniv was doing inappropriate activities irrelevant of the gender she was. As you've already stated, its really stupid to give into edge cases. So... just stop listening to them.Ok on the gender argument that's a great way to give the TERFs more ammo to just throw out Gender at all and go back to Sex genotype and or phenotype.
Lastly I'd love the world to get back in touch with reality and make it so for example Jessica Yaniv couldn't sue for discrimination because a gynaecologist wouldn't example her balls
It's the "it's not safe to let gay people into locker rooms" argument of my youth, and the "it's not safe to let black people into locker rooms" arguments of my parent's and grandparent's life, backed up by all the lists of individual transgressions that ultimately didn't prove anything.One bad trans make them all bad right? TERFs were ALWAYS going to use this tactic. They did it before Yaniv. And Yaniv was doing inappropriate activities irrelevant of the gender she was. As you've already stated, its really stupid to give into edge cases. So... just stop listening to them.
Only with some stuff. Mostly it's a section on it's own.Does the gluten free stuff not sit right next to the normal stuff in the UK?
Oh but you see not every place accommodates and I can't eat every option so it's only very partial accommodation of acknowledging I exist.Anyway, gluten free stuff being in the store IS the world accommodating for Gluten Free stuff. A store doesn't have to stock it, and as you've just demonstrated, its not as popular as most stuff. You've been accommodated for. Because most people are nice
You're analogy was that we as a society, didn't accommodate for you. This is false. If it was true, we would never have any gluten free products
Well there's 107 wanting to be recognised so far. It's a bit more than 5Cool. Conservative arguments about gender has been 2 + 2 = 5. It hasn't ever made sense. That's why its changing. THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS. It's just them that's been pretending there is 5
Ok but a preferred pronoun can be anything so are you truly prepared to call people anything they ask you to call them?No. You don't. That's been the problem with what you are saying. You don't even have to believe in what something thinks is gender to you their preferred pronoun. It's called not being a jerk. Not doing it is just about you forcing your ideology onto others. And requires far less effort, as a society, than providing gluten intolerant people food. And again, even if you think they're coming out with the wrong answer, you're not the one coming out with the right answer either. It doesn't fit reality
And yet that's what's happening with Yaniv. The rules being applied to edge cases to facilitate her actions. That's the problem. It's not being seen as the out there frivolous petty set of cases it is. There is a limit to how accommodating people can be expected to be.One bad trans make them all bad right? TERFs were ALWAYS going to use this tactic. They did it before Yaniv. And Yaniv was doing inappropriate activities irrelevant of the gender she was. As you've already stated, its really stupid to give into edge cases. So... just stop listening to them.
So, your typical American paranoia brought on by cold war era propaganda then.In a word? Communism. There's one particular political ideology that has largely accepted that their system will never work incrementally, and they desire some variety of revolution to establish their utopia, and it's communism. Which people don't like.
And there's a guy running around suing every place that has a "lady's night" for sex discrimination. Difference between him and Yaniv is that he winsAnd yet that's what's happening with Yaniv. The rules being applied to edge cases to facilitate her actions. That's the problem. It's not being seen as the out there frivolous petty set of cases it is. There is a limit to how accommodating people can be expected to be.
Meatspace isn't the internet. In meatspace, meeting the odd person here or there isn't a huge inconvenience. In meatspace, nobody is confused by the odd "they" as a first person pronoun. I should know, I've been using it for years in a face-to-face customer service role. If you say "pregnant people should get vaccinated", you won't get people shouting that you're dehumanizing women.Ok but a preferred pronoun can be anything so are you truly prepared to call people anything they ask you to call them?
Except it's not a lawsuit it's a human rights court abuse case being brought by Yaniv.And there's a guy running around suing every place that has a "lady's night" for sex discrimination. Difference between him and Yaniv is that he wins
It is being seen as a frivolous petty set of cases. That's why she's not winning. But you can't, you know, legally prohibit somebody from filing a lawsuit. And you don't want the government to be allowed to stop somebody from filing a lawsuit, for obvious reasons.
So yeah, one trans person being a nuisance, one MRA being a nuisance, a bunch of sovereign citizens being nuisances, it happens.
I wonder if where a lot of certain women feel uncomfortable is that the word "woman" gets replaced with terms like "people who menstruate", yet there seems to be substantially less replacement of "men" with terms like "people with prostates". My wife recently read an article which replaced "women" but not "men" in this fashion. It's an inconsistency that sticks out like a sore thumb.Yes, I can see how saying "women aren't people" defends a woman's humanity. Makes perfect sense.
That is annoying and should change, yes. Though I wonder if it changes more often or if people are just more sensitive to itI wonder if where a lot of certain women feel uncomfortable is that the word "woman" gets replaced with terms like "people who menstruate", yet there seems to be substantially less replacement of "men" with terms like "people with prostates". My wife recently read an article which replaced "women" but not "men" in this fashion. It's an inconsistency that sticks out like a sore thumb.
I wonder whether it should change at all, and we shouldn't just be expected to understand the relevant context of sex as opposed to gender.That is annoying and should change, yes. Though I wonder if it changes more often or if people are just more sensitive to it
Well, we do that with names, don't we? Unless you try to force people to use names you designate for them.Ok but a preferred pronoun can be anything so are you truly prepared to call people anything they ask you to call them?
I don't think it is really practical to have a massive profusion of individual pronouns in the same way we have individual names. It sort of defeats part of the purpose of a pronoun, if nothing else.Well, we do that with names, don't we? Unless you try to force people to use names you designate for them.
But those most distressed about a great reset don't like the devil they know. They have proven willing to sell their souls to every cartoonishly corrupt demagogue offering to fight the devil they know.Better the devil you know. So there's a conference of big powerful people and they're suggesting changing the world to be more equitable which would mean them losing some of their position and power and everyone just believes they are fine with this? This is a case of the house always wins one way or another and they're the house in this case so we're supposed to believe that people with their combined power and wealth could fix most of the system as it is as choosing instead or change and reset the system and that nebulous ideas will be better?
Nah there's an angle here or something to it. To paraphrase from the Sci-Fi Show Continuum "When the corporations bailed out our failing governments it was sold to us as salvation, but we now know that was a lie. We become but a bird in a gilded cage for the price of that salvation was our liberty....."