Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[Dwarvenhobble]

So... when someone comes out of the closet in real life... that's revisionism? They're just grabbing headlines?

No because unlike comic books we can't literally read their thoughts for years and point to how this thing has never come up once but plenty of counter evidence has

Yep, the controversy sure does blow over. Like it never really mattered in the first place. Yes, we all know... (or should.) But then we have to hear how evil making Jonathan Kent Bi is. Because learning from previous mistakes isnt a thing for some people

You mean other than on an evil corporate level of obviously trying to get easy news and attention which will ultimately result in nothing meaningful?

This isn't Marvel learning that "Hey maybe that Ms Marvel story we did kind of was a bit rapey".

The lessons companies are learning is they get attention by doing this and it doesn't matter if it goes no-where because they won't be held to having to actually follow through or do anything really with it outside of about 1 story where it comes up then can be shelved and never brought up again and erased in the next reset.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

This is very interesting that you're bringing this up.

Usually, people leaning to the right have the catchphrase "Keep your politics out of X".

So, I decided to look at the reviews instead of just handwaving it away as conservatives being conservatives. You know, being inconsistent.











To be blunt, as many of these people said, they came in looking for a train wreck because it has been a train wreck in their minds. They were going to settle for nothing less than a Fauci bashing, because that's what they think he deserved.

Frankly, that has nothing to do with the movie. Any criticism that is biased isn't a criticism. It's an agenda. And it has nothing to do with an actual review of a work. It's all about his perceived failures, not the movie itself.

Let's make a few things clear. I have no love lost for Fauci. I called Bullshit when he said we shouldn't wear masks. I bought and wore masks, and I was right to do so. So I really don't care for all of this praise as is. But the reality is, Dr. Fauci makes suggestions, and it's up to the president to follow or not. The President didn't follow. The President did whatever he wanted. When the numbers weren't going the way he wanted, Trump suggested we stop testing. When Fauci said this was serious, Trump said one day we were going to wake up and it was going to magically vanish. When Fauci said isolation, Trump said we need to open up.

Lastly, I want to know why do you not get as upset when your side leads with their politics, but then get upset with 'woke'? This is your side's version of woke. We just don't have a name for it.

Asleep? Does "Asleep" work?

I hold somewhat different standards for regular Joe Bloggs reviews vs professional critics. If they expected a documentary and got a puff piece bit akin to an extended PR campaign then fair enough for them to bash it.

It's not like this is the Rotten Tomatoes critic score review or something this is meant to be the user score review on IMDB where users can submit their own reviews and we live in the age where pure subjectivity in reviews has been pushed with the claim "All reviews are subjective" rightfully or wrongfully to push the idea of talking about whatever people want. Thus according to professional criticism spheres I could totally criticise Brutal Legend for not having a pro environmental message where Eddie drives round in an electric smart car not a supped up hot rod. It's the modern standard brought in coming home to roost in a "If you can't beat them and convince them why their methods are stupid, prove it to them."

Also in the case of some of the Fauci reviews it does sound like they could be Left Wingers upset he failed to do more as such or as good a job as they'd have liked.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

So Ted Lasso is being deemed Toxic because it shows an idea that masculinity can be redeemed without it being oked by a supported by activist after using masculinity for their own ends. Also apparently because it's about the main character Ted Lasso more and Ted is white and not the Ted Lasso show focussing more on newly creaed diverse characters.

 

[Cheetodust]

Silly goose.

Fauci got it wrong on masks, that means he was wrong on everything.

Trump got it right on cutting off international travel from China, so Trump is right on everything.

Conservative logic!

This is the thing that gets me. I don't know much about Fauci, but the head of our pandemic response is one of the worst criminals this country has ever had, who did everything in his power to cover up the cervical check scandal. My hatred and disgust for that man are really hard to express. But like, yeah wear a mask. I can want that guy in prison and also support the idea that masks and vaccines are good.

 

[Terminal Blue]

Speaking of Tweets Non-binary Dogs are now a thing being brought up

That's a joke.

I know it's not as SIDE SPLITTINGLY HILARIOUS as saying "I identify as an attack helicopter" for the millionth time and still expecting everyone to laugh through bared teeth, but we can't all match the right's amazing memeing potential.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

That's a joke.

I know it's not as SIDE SPLITTINGLY HILARIOUS as saying "I identify as an attack helicopter" for the millionth time and still expecting everyone to laugh through bared teeth, but we can't all match the right's amazing memeing potential.

Oh sure, joke that's why it led to other people chiming in that their animals may be non-binary too and a longer discussion over it.........Totally jokes that's why people are so enthusiastic and putting such effort in more so than any elaborate 4chan prank ever totally just jokes...... is this like how the anti-capitalist shoplifting community on Tumblr was totally just a joke until it was revealed not to be?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

So CNN basically just admitted they said Joe Rogan took Horse de-wormer just to try and smear him and it was a lie

CNN’s Sanjay Gupta Admits They ‘Shouldn’t Have’ Said Joe Rogan Took Horse Dewormer For Covid

"Does it bother you that the network you work for out and out lied?"

www.ladbible.com

Because that's such a good move for the news to do, make up complete lies to take shots at people like that to try and harm their reputation and when the lie is revealed doesn't totally backfire on CNN at all.

"Why would they lie and say that's horse dewormer?" Rogan pressed. "I can afford people medicine motherf****r. It's ridiculous! It's just a lie! Don't you think that a lie like that is dangerous on a news network when you know that they know they're lying?... Do you think that that's a problem that your news network lies?"

"Dude they lied and said I was taking horse dewormer. First of all, it was prescribed to me by a doctor," said Rogan.

So to be clear Rogan literally took his doctors advice and took what he was told to take by a medical professional and CNN tried to frame it as Rogan being a Quack and buying animal medication.

You can argue Rogan's Doctor might now be a bit suspect but yeh CNN screwed this one up it seems.

 

[Trunkage]

So CNN basically just admitted they said Joe Rogan took Horse de-wormer just to try and smear him and it was a lie

CNN’s Sanjay Gupta Admits They ‘Shouldn’t Have’ Said Joe Rogan Took Horse Dewormer For Covid

"Does it bother you that the network you work for out and out lied?"

www.ladbible.com

Because that's such a good move for the news to do, make up complete lies to take shots at people like that to try and harm their reputation and when the lie is revealed doesn't totally backfire on CNN at all.





So to be clear Rogan literally took his doctors advice and took what he was told to take by a medical professional and CNN tried to frame it as Rogan being a Quack and buying animal medication.

You can argue Rogan's Doctor might now be a bit suspect but yeh CNN screwed this one up it seems.

You know that saying its a horse dewormer is a joke.... right

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

You know that saying its a horse dewormer is a joke.... right

Ah so CNN is admitting they're a comedy publication now?

 

[tstorm823]

You know that saying its a horse dewormer is a joke.... right

It really isn't. That's what lots of regular people believe. My sister, who has a doctorate, who subscribes to the New York Times, was upset that someone called my father, who is a pharmacist, looking to buy themselves "horse medicine", because that's what the news told her it is.

 

[Trunkage]

No because unlike comic books we can't literally read their thoughts for years and point to how this thing has never come up once but plenty of counter evidence has


You mean other than on an evil corporate level of obviously trying to get easy news and attention which will ultimately result in nothing meaningful?

This isn't Marvel learning that "Hey maybe that Ms Marvel story we did kind of was a bit rapey".

The lessons companies are learning is they get attention by doing this and it doesn't matter if it goes no-where because they won't be held to having to actually follow through or do anything really with it outside of about 1 story where it comes up then can be shelved and never brought up again and erased in the next reset.

So... Marvel did a terrible storyline with incest with a little rape and NOW they are following drama trends?

Man, I don't think you know comics at all. The front page of every comic was plastered with drama to sell it. It's the very essence of comics.

Lastly, no. The problem of comic heroes coming out of the closest etc is that people identify with heroes. Thus they place their own sexuality onto a hero. Rather than listen to the heroes inner thoughts. With the proviso that any gay thoughts would have been banned until very recent decades

 

[Trunkage]

It really isn't. That's what lots of regular people believe. My sister, who has a doctorate, who subscribes to the New York Times, was upset that someone called my father, who is a pharmacist, looking to buy themselves "horse medicine", because that's what the news told her it is.

Yes. People legit went out to buy horse medicine. This was reported on. Why is it CNN fault for buying it? They deliberately went out of their way to say that it doesnt work.

Or is the news you are talking about here OAN etc

 

[Trunkage]

Ah so CNN is admitting they're a comedy publication now?

Well, expecting them to be completely accurate is a joke

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

So... Marvel did a terrible storyline with incest with a little rape and NOW they are following drama trends?

Man, I don't think you know comics at all. The front page of every comic was plastered with drama to sell it. It's the very essence of comics.

Lastly, no. The problem of comic heroes coming out of the closest etc is that people identify with heroes. Thus they place their own sexuality onto a hero. Rather than listen to the heroes inner thoughts. With the proviso that any gay thoughts would have been banned until very recent decades

Look, all he's saying is that back in the old days heroes never had gay thoughts and he's never heard of the Comic Code Authority

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

So... Marvel did a terrible storyline with incest with a little rape and NOW they are following drama trends?

Man, I don't think you know comics at all. The front page of every comic was plastered with drama to sell it. It's the very essence of comics.

Lastly, no. The problem of comic heroes coming out of the closest etc is that people identify with heroes. Thus they place their own sexuality onto a hero. Rather than listen to the heroes inner thoughts. With the proviso that any gay thoughts would have been banned until very recent decades

No because Marvel clearly learned from that story. They've not been so much with other stuff.

Also yes the front page is, designed to get attention in comic shops and on shelves. I dunno I just don't find "Come see our shockingly LGBTQQIAA2+ character" to be in any kind of good taste because if the goal is to normalise LGBTQQIAA2+ people then treating a character as being part of the LGBTQQIAA2+ as some dramatic thing almost "come see the gay, see how the gay frolics about" well it's very much not normalising. It would be like major headlines every time Frank Miller had a character hook up in one of his comics (see Batman and Black Canary)

Also again there are literally thought boxes in comics so readers can read and have read for years some characters inner thoughts lol. Also the CCA eased off in like the 70s and while not fully abolished it was approving most things from that point anyway. It's also not like there aren't characters who haven't been explored as much especially their romantic leanings but those aren't the ones generally picked.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Well, expecting them to be completely accurate is a joke

There is a bit of a difference between "Not completely accurate" and "Basically knowingly inaccurate because it's beneficial to their narrative more than the truth."

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Yes. People legit went out to buy horse medicine. This was reported on. Why is it CNN fault for buying it? They deliberately went out of their way to say that it doesnt work.

Or is the news you are talking about here OAN etc

You mean like how they probably also reported on how masks didn't work?

I wonder why people would react differently?

Also didn't they or some-one else falsely report A&E departments were swamped by people who had taken horse medicine?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Look, all he's saying is that back in the old days heroes never had gay thoughts and he's never heard of the Comic Code Authority

And all your saying is you like to eat raw lemons.

I can speak for myself without needing you to make up bullshit and claim it's what I'm saying thank you.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

You mean like how they probably also reported on how masks didn't work?

I wonder why people would react differently?

Also didn't they or some-one else falsely report A&E departments were swamped by people who had taken horse medicine?

Are you incapable of accessing websites other than the escapist? Honest question

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Are you incapable of accessing websites other than the escapist? Honest question

No, are you?
I'm asking the questions cause I honestly can't be arsed looking up to check again.