Crime is up in major cities because cops are being pissy about being held to any standard at all.
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Crime and the causes of crime are complex.
In the UK there were riots about 10 years ago. The police were overwhelmed for a few days. And then they just died away again. Many of these were sort of copycat riots in other cities: people who saw the original disorder and realised they could just get away with stuff. In reality, if people wanted to overhwelm the police they can do so. We rely on them not doing so.
The disorder on US streets is not necessarily much to do with the police, but the wider socio-political turmoil - most severely last year. Mass protests, marches, vigilanteism and attacks on authority naturally will erode people's respect for institutions and social order. Let's bear in mind that over the past few years the president himself bore a lot of blame for inflaming social division and undermining authority. Rebuilding and calming down is a major societal task, of which the police force is arguably a relatively minor component.
Oh you mean the Riots 10 years ago that saw a Sikh man killed helping defend his father's business and there was talk for a while of the Sikh community taking to the streets to combat the rioters. Lets just say I don't think the rioters liked the idea of potentially facing up to people who are legally allowed to carry knives and their religion encourages to use of them for defence of the religion and self. Also the police got the OK to use water cannons (something US that has a big stigma was US police oddly far more than non lethal rounds and tear gas).
The Riots in the 80s would be a better example and oddly part of the suggested cause of them along with poverty and social problems was the media coverage of other riots. The idea being showing it happening and people getting away with the rioting and looting encourages more people to take their chances. While showing the police cracking down and dragging rioters off tends to make people think twice about it.
I dont like how billionaires limit what is possible. They've limited what was possible for decades, deliberately stalling until it was inevitable. They advertised, lambasted and lobbied against it, making policies that benefit certain areas over others. They cut off ideas in the crib and we continually had to start from scratch. They've used copyright to make sure ideas weren't successful and bought out those that were just to shelve them. They made all the potential solutions way more expensive. Even now, there is very limited number of ideas coming out
In reality, I wish capitalist were doing the work. Not billionaires. They're even further away from capitalism that what a politician are
Anyway, here is a Australian journalist (specialising in climate) take on the initial situation I discussed earlier.
With the proviso that I think that the new South Australian government in 2017 wouldn't have changed course because it also wouldn't have been too costly to turn back. I point this out because I think the SA conservative government tackled the situation in a very different way than the federal. Sure, they didn't apologise for all the muckraking and lies, but they still DID something. Not pretended that their previous actions should dictate future actions, particularly when they were proven ineffective
I think a lot of it is association rather than the policies themselves.
I'm not sure a lot of "anti-woke" people are that invested in keeping women, homosexuals and racial minorities down. I think they are much more invested in things like jobs, taxes, and so on. The issue is that the people who believe in progressive social policies also tend to be the same people who believe in welfare, socialised healthcare and minimum wages, etc.
The problem then with "woke" is that is tarred by association with other unfavoured political views, and if such-and-such is wrong on one thing, they can more easily be considered wrong on another. Secondly for political movers and shakers that it provides an easy route of attack rather than engaging with the difficult parts of socioeconomic policy. You can only imagine what it is to be a right wing politician ideologically opposed to socialised healthcare who sees that it is alarmingly popular with their own voters. They don't want to pick that fight: easier to shift the debate to another topic.
The idea that social media platforms are biased towards the left I absolutely fucking hilarious to me. Like, c'mon now
Indeed. They removed messages of people wishing that Trump succumbed to his covid infection, a courtesy they notably don't do when any of Trump's opponents are directly threatened with death. And not only that but they even gave Trump a blank check to break every rule on their platform up until the very end of his presidency.
The algorithm especially seems hilariously scewed towards the alt right. You only need to see one video mildly critical of the new Star Wars trilogy and then Youtube suddenly keeps recommending you videos in the vein of ''Star Wars is PROOF that WOMAN ruin EVERYTHING!'' or seeing one reviewer struggle with Metroid Dread before Youtube starts recommending you all those far right grifters going on and on about how ''the left has DEGRADED game JOURNALISM through EVIL leftist INFILTRATION!'' which notably isn't something Youtube does when you watch a video that's more sympathetic to left leaning stances. John Oliver has never ensured Youtube started recommending me videos in the vein of ''Trump! Worst president EVAR!'.
I wonder if we really do live in a simulator as theorized by some people out there.
They are, just specifically center-left. People on the far left are detrimental to the image of the center left, it is in the interests of the center-left to erase the presence of the far left to the best of their ability.
Right, because the rival to the center left isn't the far right, it's the center right. People on the far right are detrimental to the image of the center right, so it is in the center left's interest to inflate the far right and minimize the center right. A Democrat may frame politics as Democrats vs white supremacists while pretending normal Republicans and crazy communists don't exist, in much the same way a Republican might frame politics as Republicans vs communists while pretending normal Democrats and insane fascists aren't real. Because the algorithms are designed by people who support the Democrats, you're going to be most often recommended mainstream center left content and fringe alt right stuff, because that helps Democrats win elections.
It's the interests of social media to emphasise any extremes, because they generate the most traffic.
However, the fact that Twitter found that their algorithm exaggerated the right much more is quite an important fact when we consider whether Twitter is biased. Because it's just demonstrated it was biased, but contrary to all the claims of the right wing, in the favour of the right wing.
Secondly, I'm not sure the "centre-right" as you mean it is in control of the US right wing anymore. The centre-left's rival is evidently now the Trump Party.
You are the proof that I am correct. As someone overseas, you have relatively little first-hand experience with US politics compared to someone who actually lives here, so your perception is likely to be more skewed than an American by what the media, who you must rely on for information by circumstance, is telling you. And you believe the state of US politics is exactly what I'm telling you they want to frame it as to benefit Democrats, and not-coincidentally you lean toward support of Democrats despite really not being any less conservative yourself than I am.
Considering the far right has gobbled up the center right in most places the left doesn't need to work very hard to stress the far right's importance. The Republican party has been completely dominated by the far right for long time now. Its not the representatives of the center right that governs that party, its Trump and his cronies. And even before that the likes of McConnell can hardly be described as a normal right wing politician. In fact whoever comes out as being just a center right politician seems to very quickly get shamed and threatened into submission by the Trump camp.
And considering just about everyone agrees the right's rise on the internet at least aided Trump and the alt right in some form I'd be very sceptical of the ideas that the likes of Gamergate or Breitbart were secretly facilitated by the left.
There is indeed a difference between center right and far right. Prime Minister Rutte or Merkel certainly aren't akin to Farage or Baudet. But in many countries the former end up getting supplanted and replaced by the latter. In the US you have Trump, in France Le Pen, in Brazil Bolsonaro, in Italy you got Salvini and while not strictly demagogic the likes of Orban, Putin and the PIS party have more in common with the far right than the center right.
If you really think I am about as conservative than you, that says a great deal more about your poor judgement than it does about my political leanings.
So you want to believe, but how many policies have we ever actually disagreed on? Basically all our arguments are about what people are doing, rather than what we think they ought to be doing.
As best as I can tell, your judgment of how extreme you consider a politician is based purely on the external factor of how much the internet hates them, and your suggestion that "Trump and his cronies" run any party is just plain silly. The people you're describing are grifters trying to gain wealth and fame by sucking off the work of others, they don't govern anything.
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We were disagreeing on abortion just last week.
When we consider that you vote Republican, I think it effectively inconceivable that you and I hold similar policy views, otherwise you would not vote Republican.
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