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Here's how you know someone is left wing. They hate Biden. But not as much as Trump.
Yeah, I 110% hate the cutesy hashtag slogan wars the liberals get up to, but they're somehow less rock stupid than the vapid bullshit the conservatives pretend is a major movement because they got it to trend at 4 am on a weekday and their grifter overlords put it in the merch shop.
 
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Maybe you shouldn't break the world apart into groups based purely on hatred.
Well, here's what I was going to suggest but fell back into the 'group hate thing.' I felt like he gave example of at best centrist sucking on a conservative president dick. Is that better?
 

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Maybe you shouldn't break the world apart into groups based purely on hatred.
They weren't. They were breaking apart the notion that the Left respects/likes Biden, due to the Left hating Trump. They hate Trump so they must like Biden, right? No, they just hate him less.
 
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Well, here's what I was going to suggest but fell back into the 'group hate thing.' I felt like he gave example of at best centrist sucking on a conservative president dick. Is that better?
Not really. Like, I agree that Biden is relatively conservative, but that's based on my knowledge of his positions and policies. You're still picking someone as a "centrist" based only on who they hate. A person can be both very left-wing and also kind to Joe Biden.
They weren't. They were breaking apart the notion that the Left respects/likes Biden, due to the Left hating Trump. They hate Trump so they must like Biden, right? No, they just hate him less.
Ok, but that's wrong for the same reason. I agree, "left-wing people must like Joe Biden" is wrong, but "real left-wing people hate Joe Biden" is also wrong. There are actually such things as left-wing positions, and none of them dictate a personal opinion of Joe Biden.
 

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This is what the cult is being encouraged with, always, always violence, nothing but loathing and violence in the rhetoric

Former President Trump — in a taped interview with Jonathan Karl of ABC News that was shared with Axios — defended, quite extensively, supporters who threatened to "hang" former Vice President Mike Pence.

Why it matters: Well, it is unprecedented for a former president to openly say it was OK to threaten the life of his vice president.

  • Oh, the two men are on track to run against each other for the GOP nomination in 2024.
Zoom out: This is a slice of a 90-minute interview — conducted at Mar-a-Lago on March 18 — for Karl's book, "Betrayal," out on Tuesday.

  • More news-breaking audio from the interview will air Sunday on ABC's "This Week."
Go deeper: We will let the Q&A tell the story.

Jonathan Karl: "Were you worried about him during that siege? Were you worried about his safety?"

  • Trump: "No, I thought he was well-protected, and I had heard that he was in good shape. No. Because I had heard he was in very good shape. But, but, no, I think — "
Karl: "Because you heard those chants — that was terrible. I mean — "

  • Trump: "He could have — well, the people were very angry."
Karl: "They were saying 'hang Mike Pence.'"

  • Trump: "Because it's common sense, Jon. It's common sense that you're supposed to protect. How can you — if you know a vote is fraudulent, right? — how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress? How can you do that? And I'm telling you: 50/50, it's right down the middle for the top constitutional scholars when I speak to them. Anybody I spoke to — almost all of them at least pretty much agree, and some very much agree with me — because he's passing on a vote that he knows is fraudulent. How can you pass a vote that you know is fraudulent? Now, when I spoke to him, I really talked about all of the fraudulent things that happened during the election. I didn't talk about the main point, which is the legislatures did not approve — five states. The legislatures did not approve all of those changes that made the difference between a very easy win for me in the states,
 
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Ok, but that's wrong for the same reason. I agree, "left-wing people must like Joe Biden" is wrong, but "real left-wing people hate Joe Biden" is also wrong. There are actually such things as left-wing positions, and none of them dictate a personal opinion of Joe Biden.
That wasn't claimed either. The Left doesn't hate or dislike Biden because they have to or because that's what "real" lefties do, they collectively just don't like him. He's a democrat, and American democrats just aren't very left. Lefter certainly than the Republican party (especially now that a large amount of them have a psychopathic allegiance to Trump), but the Democrats are still pretty right leaning themselves. But you're not going to see progressives try and torpedo an infrastructure bill because they don't like Biden. If Biden does things the Left likes they'll like that, but generally he doesn't so they don't like him much.
 

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So, ummm...those JFK.Jr/Sr haven't quite left Dallas after the wholly unpredictable no-show of two long dead politicians.


It was 2 a.m. on November 1 when Maureen McNamara realized that something wasn’t right.

She had spent every waking hour of the past two weeks organizing a list of hundreds of QAnon supporters who were traveling to Dallas to see the resurrection of JFK, based solely on the predictions of one man, Michael Brian Protzman.

McNamara, along with hundreds of Protzman’s other followers, had been camped out in AT&T Plaza in downtown Dallas for up to nine hours at this point, and her patience was wearing thin.

“There were children sleeping on that ground,’ McNamara told VICE News. “There were elderly people, there were people with walkers, people with canes, people that were in pain, in a lot of pain.”

For hours, the crowd had been told that the big reveal was coming. There were whispered rumors about a house that would accommodate thousands of people that would become the “new White House.” Then a rumor made its way through the crowd that someone was about to appear in the windows of one of the hotels that overlook AT&T Plaza, with everyone from Princess Diana to JFK Jr. rumored to be appearing.

No one appeared, but then Protzman started to shout at everyone to turn off their phones and put them away, that something was about to happen. He told everyone to push back against the walls of the plaza and get ready. He stood three feet away from McNamara and told her:

“Don't worry, you have the best viewing position there is, you won't miss a thing. You won't miss a thing. Keep your eyes open. You're right where you need to be right now.”

But, again, nothing happened. Then, suddenly, everyone was racing towards a small group of Protzman’s closest advisers. McNamara wondered if something was finally happening. But when she got through the crowd, she saw that all that was happening was that everyone was being given a T-shirt with Protzman’s online alias, Negative48, printed on it.

“Everybody's scrambling to get one, like we flew all the way to Dallas and stood around for 16 hours so we could have a T-shirt,” McNamara said.

McNamara is now working to “wake up” those who are still in thrall to Protzman. Over a week after JFK failed to appear, Protzman remains in Dallas surrounded by dozens of his followers, and he’s still predicting the reappearance of the long-dead president and his son, John F. Kennedy, Jr. There is talk of establishing a permanent base in Dallas and the Telegram channels where Protzman’s followers gather online have become even more openly antisemitic and extreme in recent days.

For McNamara, a devout QAnon supporter, the attraction of coming to Dallas was less the “intriguing” prospect of seeing JFK reappear, and more about seeing like-minded people.

“What drew me in more than that was an opportunity to be with like-minded people, because everybody's story in this movement is that we've lost friends,” McNamara told VICE News.

“We've lost family, we've lost credibility, we've been isolated, we've been lonely and we've been called lots of different names, crazy among them. And so there was this opportunity suddenly to gather with like-minded people and that was what I wanted to do.”

That’s why, even after spending 16 hours waiting for nothing to happen, McNamara got up at 10 a.m. the next day and joined the group at Dealey Plaza in the belief that JFK would return. At all times Protzman was portraying himself as a Christ-like figure, McNamara said:

“He's acting like he's Jesus Christ with his disciples. Everywhere he went, there was this little group around him kissing this ring.”

And yet, she shelled out hundreds of dollars to go to a Rolling Stones concert that Protzman told everyone would be where JFK would finally appear.

“I was never a fan of the Rolling Stones, I had no intention of going there. But then last minute, everyone's saying you got to be there, you got to be there. And so I spent $300 on tickets and it was raw and rainy and cold and miserable.”

At that point, McNamara was done and began calling out Protzman for his empty promises. She was joined by some others, but many remained loyal, and “that is when the entire group just started turning on each other and it was ugly.”

Now back home in Florida, McNamara started a new Telegram group to call out Protzman for his behavior. Protzman’s acolytes in turn labeled McNamara and anyone who questioned their leader’s credential as traitors to the cause.

McNamara says she spent thousands on flights, accommodation, and expenses during the trip and ultimately “ran out of money” before going home, and says this is typical of many people in the group.

“I know many people who won't now be able to afford Christmas, but it was more important for them to be there, or they don't know how they're gonna pay the next month's mortgage payment,” McNamara said. “Many people make huge sacrifices financially, in their relationships, in their lives, just to be there.”

Yet Protzman remains surrounded by a dozens-strong group of loyal supporters in Dallas.

On Thursday evening in one of the many Telegram groups run by Protzman’s inner circle, users posted videos of the group, including Protzman, dancing inside a hotel ballroom. One photo showed a young child inside the same room late at night.

Also on Thursday Protzman urged his hundreds of thousands of followers online to donate money to the group to pay for suits and ball gowns so that the group could attend the “inauguration ball” when JFK returns.

Several new dates are being posited within these channels as the next date for when JFK will actually reappear, with both November 17 and November 22 (the anniversary of JFK’s assassination) mentioned.

Such constant moving of goalposts is a typical technique within QAnon, and allows the conspiracy movement to explain away unfulfilled promises.

VICE News spoke to a family member of one of the people still inside Protzman’s group in Dallas, who requested anonymity to speak openly about his brother.

While the Protzman follower was always into conspiracy theories, he never went too far down the rabbithole, his brother said, until he began watching Protzman’s videos.

“There were times where he would come over to [my sister's] place and say he’s just gotta get away from the computer for a little bit because his brain's just all over the place because he’s watching these videos, they’re so mesmerizing.”

After over a week without hearing from him since he told them he was attending the Rolling Stones’ concert in Dallas, the man’s family finally got a reply from him on Thursday, when they received a message suggesting he’s still in Dallas: “I am fine.

I'm surrounded by people who love me.” However, when they tried to verify that it was their brother who sent it, there was no response.

“I don't know if he's ever going to return or how deep he is in this stuff,’ the man told VICE News.

Protzman’s rise was based on his use of a bastardized version of a Hebrew numerology system called Gematria, where he links phases and names together by assigning them a numerical value. In videos posted online he goes into an almost trance-like state, as if channeling some higher power.

Dallas Police Department didn’t immediately respond to VICE News’ question about whether they have been alerted to the group’s presence in the city. Protzman and a person who has spoken for him in the past both declined to comment for this story.

At this point, it remains unclear how this charade will end, but Protzman is continuing to use Gematria to convince those in his orbit that he has some sort of higher power. Those who are no longer under his spell are happy to be far away.

“I don't know how it will end, but I don't think it will end well. I'm glad that I am back in Florida, as far away from that as I can be,” McNamara said.
Getting strong "gangstalking" conspiracy theorist flashbacks


3 times. In the back. Shot. While running away.
 
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Yeah, I 110% hate the cutesy hashtag slogan wars the liberals get up to, but they're somehow less rock stupid than the vapid bullshit the conservatives pretend is a major movement because they got it to trend at 4 am on a weekday and their grifter overlords put it in the merch shop.
You're also arguing about what happens on twitter..............You know twitter


A place where trending is literally curated by staff and so "Oh you only get it to trend at 4am" isn't the own you think it is when those often are the times when the humans aren't watching and monitoring or not doing so as closely.

Literally if you wanted to you could prove this by looking up the numbers of certain tweets. I mean technically every morning #Breakfast should be trending as it's used like 11,000 to 17,000 times minimum but it's not because again curated.
 

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That wasn't claimed either. The Left doesn't hate or dislike Biden because they have to or because that's what "real" lefties do, they collectively just don't like him.
Just to recap what I was responding to:
"Here's how you know someone is left wing. They hate Biden. But not as much as Trump."
Which I suppose isn't saying literally "real lefties hate Biden", but it is saying that you can't be sure someone is left wing unless they hate Biden. I feel that is a distinction without a meaningful difference, since the message either way is that you can judge someone's relative political position based on their level of hatred and directed toward whom.
 
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Just to recap what I was responding to:
"Here's how you know someone is left wing. They hate Biden. But not as much as Trump."
Which I suppose isn't saying literally "real lefties hate Biden", but it is saying that you can't be sure someone is left wing unless they hate Biden. I feel that is a distinction without a meaningful difference, since the message either way is that you can judge someone's relative political position based on their level of hatred and directed toward whom.
I'm pretty sure conservatives hate Biden too. But then, thats the problem with language. When I say 'hate', it doesn't mean I/they want to kill him. Which cannot be said about the Qpeeps. He just stands for corporates and not for the people. I.e
Much of the infrastructure bill is benefiting corporations way more than the average citizens. And most of the items that would help the average citizens... the Dems had to quarantine that. Too expensive, or whatever nonsense they made up
 

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So apparently anti-vaxxers are coming up with all kinds of creative ways to 'detox' themselves from the vaccine, including taking a borax bath, cupping, cutting the point of injection with a razor, and "reverse injecting" with a syringe. I'm honestly surprised there is no mention of drinking bleach.
 

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So apparently anti-vaxxers are coming up with all kinds of creative ways to 'detox' themselves from the vaccine, including taking a borax bath, cupping, cutting the point of injection with a razor, and "reverse injecting" with a syringe. I'm honestly surprised there is no mention of drinking bleach.
The reverse injecting one worries me that some silly sod is accidentally going to inject an air bubble into their veins.
 
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The reverse injecting one worries me that some silly sod is accidentally going to inject an air bubble into their veins.
Yeh, sounds like an embolism waiting to happen. Also, I was wrong, the very last sentence in the article mentions drinking bleach.
 

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So apparently anti-vaxxers are coming up with all kinds of creative ways to 'detox' themselves from the vaccine, including taking a borax bath, cupping, cutting the point of injection with a razor, and "reverse injecting" with a syringe. I'm honestly surprised there is no mention of drinking bleach.
I for one applaud the strenuous efforts these people are going to in order to remove themselves from the gene pool, and I wish them success.
 
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Ah old Flynn, can always be trusted to say the quiet part loud for the hard of hearing among us.

At a three-day conference in San Antonio, Texas, for the "ReAwaken America" tour, former national security adviser and keynote speaker Michael Flynn called for Christianity to become the singular religion of the United States.

"If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God," said Flynn, who recently talked about his Christian faith in an effort to refute QAnon claims that he worships Satan.



At the conference, Flynn also discussed former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who was indicted by a federal grand jury for refusing to comply with a subpoena issued by the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 Capitol riot. Flynn called the indictment an "abuse of freedom of speech."

Flynn also said he has taped a segment for "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on what he calls the "insurrection crucifixion," comparing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Pontius Pilate, the man who ordered the crucifixion of Jesus in the Bible.

"This is the crucifixion of our First Amendment freedom to speak, freedom to peacefully assemble. It's unbelievable," Flynn said at the conference on Friday.



The "ReAwaken America" tour features Flynn, other Trump loyalists, and anti-vaxx doctors, including Stella Immanuel and Scott Jensen, who have a history of spreading disinformation about the 2020 election and the COVID-19 pandemic.

Other Trump allies participating as speakers for the tour include Roger Stone, Mike Lindell, and Lin Wood.

Flynn also has a history of propagating conspiracy theories, such as COVID-19 vaccines being added to salad dressing, and previously claimed that COVID-19 was fabricated to distract from the 2020 election.

He served as the Trump administration's national security adviser and was pardoned in 2020 after pleading guilty to lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation about his communications with Russia.
Then again, that isn't such a rare trait around his ilk lately.

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Talking of anti-vaxx Dr Stella Immanuel, a recent Las Vegas qanon/pro-covid event had her giving a typical anti-vaxx speech, except ending with her singing solo in front of these baffled republicans who may have just experienced their very first culture shock, so here's a remix of that very audio...

 
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Mark my word, this University will become either another University of Chicago where it will be the school for republican elites or it will be a laughing stock like a more moderate Liberty University.

I lean towards the former. But I am a realist and a deep pessimist.

 
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