Judge in Rittenhouse case might be a tad biased.

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Oh, is that the a guy whose girlfriend was killed by cops?
Yep. And despite being black and shooting at cops he was found not guilty of everything except the possession of a firearm by a convicted felon charge. Which given that he definitely had a firearm and definitely was a convicted felon and that law doesn't have a weird exception that he met that one was basically a given.
 

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I mean if it's in the middle of the night and you're dating someone who dated a drug dealer and you hear someone breaking down your door, shooting is pretty reasonable if they don't respond to you. How was he supposed to know it was the cops and not the drug dealer with his group trying to get revenge at the new boyfriend or something. I honestly didn't think this dude should have even been charged.
 
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Remind me, why did the police have no presence in CHAZ again?
Irrelevant to the question.

Also, nothing stops them from being charged after the fact, even if there was no police presence to stop them immediately. It's not like what happens in CHAZ stays in CHAZ and no longer could be considered the moment CHAZ ceased to be.
But there is a warrant out. He remains at large, but the wish to arrest and charge him is there.

Ok so to add more to this because the argument was if Kyle were black the same wouldn't have happened to him

Your example is literally somebody who didn't kill anybody. And he was still found guilty of another charge. And the officers, who actually did kill someone, were exonerated.

Thank you for doing my job for me.
 
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Irrelevant to the question.



But there is a warrant out. He remains at large, but the wish to arrest and charge him is there.



Your example is literally somebody who didn't kill anybody. And he was still found guilty of another charge. And the officers, who actually did kill someone, were exonerated.

Thank you for doing my job for me.
Wild, I literally just saw this exact comparison on Instagram. I follow a lot of powerlifting and strongman content which apparently also throws a lot of MAGA bullshit at you. It's so funny actually watching these people just uncritically sing from the same hymn sheet.
 

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And was found not guilty of attempted murder for it. So yeh turns out Kyle's case has a very good recent equivalent


So now that that guy has been proven innocent of *checks notes* the cops murdering his girlfriend, what're the odds of the cops getting in trouble for murdering his girlfriend?
He as being charged for attempted murder for shooting at the cops not the death of his girlfriend............


Your example is literally somebody who didn't kill anybody. And he was still found guilty of another charge. And the officers, who actually did kill someone, were exonerated.

Thank you for doing my job for me.
Dude Shot at police........Yeh he didn't kill anyone that's why he was being charged with attempted murder not actual murder. The charge he was found guilty of was possession of a firearm while being a convicted felon. Dude was able to get off the attempted murder charge for shooting at the cop by claiming self defence. That's a pretty good equal for Kyle's case and you know why police were exonerated? Cause they fired back because some dude opened fire on them and at a guess he girlfriend got hit in the crossfire.
 

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And was found not guilty of attempted murder for it. So yeh turns out Kyle's case has a very good recent equivalent
Kyle was at home when a bunch of people stormed in, guns blazing? Wow, I hadn't followed the case that closely but that completely changes everything. :rolleyes:
 

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Kyle was at home when a bunch of people stormed in, guns blazing? Wow, I hadn't followed the case that closely but that completely changes everything. :rolleyes:
Oh so the people Kyle shot were upstanding police officers and he didn't turn and run away? and totally not people with criminal histories who were the aggressors? :rolleyes:

But hey seeing as people want more examples.

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So yeh Rittenhouse was treated worse than a school shooter initially. Think on that.
 
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And was found not guilty of attempted murder for it. So yeh turns out Kyle's case has a very good recent equivalent
Your "equivalent" for a case in which someone travelled intentionally into a tense situation with a gun and killed 2 people... is a situation in which someone was in their own home, and shot back when people broke in and killed his girlfriend, and even then didn't kill anyone. Absolutely amazing.

Honestly I should be grateful for you repeatedly highlighting this case, because it illustrates my point so very well.

He as being charged for attempted murder for shooting at the cops not the death of his girlfriend............
He was also charged with second degree murder for the death of his girlfriend.

Who died when cops shot her. After breaking into the house without identifying themselves.

Dude Shot at police........Yeh he didn't kill anyone that's why he was being charged with attempted murder not actual murder. The charge he was found guilty of was possession of a firearm while being a convicted felon. Dude was able to get off the attempted murder charge for shooting at the cop by claiming self defence. That's a pretty good equal for Kyle's case and you know why police were exonerated? Cause they fired back because some dude opened fire on them and at a guess he girlfriend got hit in the crossfire.
"At a guess" sums up a lot of your posts, really.

Funny how often the "self defence" argument is thrown out the window when someone attempts to defend himself against (what turns out to be) police brutality. They broke into his home and failed to identify themselves. He didn't know who the fuck they were. If someone else did exactly what the cops did, and a white kid had shot back, US conservatives would be touting him as a cause celebre. Because they're rank hypocrites.
 

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Huh. Was not expecting that.

You think those internships are gonna be open after this week?
I took a moment and looked at those accounts. I wouldn't call any of them conservatives, and no reasonable person would call them influential. First is a lady who just spends every waking moment accusing celebrities of being transgender, second is a self-described reactionary monarchist who routinely praises nazis and has since joked about being called conservative, third is a simply a troll.
 
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Oh so the people Kyle shot were upstanding police officers and he didn't turn and run away? and totally not people with criminal histories who were the aggressors? :rolleyes:

But hey seeing as people want more examples.

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So yeh Rittenhouse was treated worse than a school shooter initially. Think on that.
Stats suggest the race of the shooter matters less than the race of the person getting shot. So when a black guy kills another black guy, the powers that be shrug. Dunno if that applies in this case or not regarding Simpkins.

EDIT: ITMT the kid comes across as very decent. Surprisingly so.
 
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Your "equivalent" for a case in which someone travelled intentionally into a tense situation with a gun and killed 2 people... is a situation in which someone was in their own home, and shot back when people broke in and killed his girlfriend, and even then didn't kill anyone. Absolutely amazing.

Honestly I should be grateful for you repeatedly highlighting this case, because it illustrates my point so very well.



He was also charged with second degree murder for the death of his girlfriend.

Who died when cops shot her. After breaking into the house without identifying themselves.



"At a guess" sums up a lot of your posts, really.

Funny how often the "self defence" argument is thrown out the window when someone attempts to defend himself against (what turns out to be) police brutality. They broke into his home and failed to identify themselves. He didn't know who the fuck they were. If someone else did exactly what the cops did, and a white kid had shot back, US conservatives would be touting him as a cause celebre. Because they're rank hypocrites.
No people would be saying the person was bloody lucky the police didn't kill them.

Also I love how you're seemingly trying to frame my position as dude shouldn't have got off. He should the police fucked up.

I took a moment and looked at those accounts. I wouldn't call any of them conservatives, and no reasonable person would call them influential. First is a lady who just spends every waking moment accusing celebrities of being transgender, second is a self-described reactionary monarchist who routinely praises nazis and has since joked about being called conservative, third is a simply a troll.
You know the rules they're only no-ones of no influence if it's a left wing person posting it. If it's a right wing person they totally count and are huge influencers because reasons and screw you deflection deflection deflection.
Kinda surprised to see the weird Transvestigation stuff still going on (Shoe0nHead covered it years ago)