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Only to an extent and the EU very much does apply pressure for conformity or consistency among the states, sometimes in very silly ways.
They just don't have anything to enforce that pressure. Even Hungary, a country that blatendly rejects the basic premise that you need to be a democracy to have EU membership cannot be dealt with because it requires every single country to agree.
 
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If Russian President Vladimir Putin murdered one million Ukrainians. There would be wide swaths of American leftist, and foreign bots who LARP the USSR who would defend him to the bitter end.

If Biden does the same to the Iranians. Everyone would rightfully call him out. That's the difference between the sane left and the batshit crazy left. China and Russia can do no wrong because they aren't the US, and Russia could threaten to annex a country, and crickets from the "anti-imperialists".
 
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If Russian President Vladimir Putin murdered one million Ukrainians. There would be wide swaths of American leftist, and foreign bots who LARP the USSR who would defend him to the bitter end.

If Biden does the same to the Iranians. Everyone would rightfully call him out. That's the difference between the sane left and the batshit crazy left. China and Russia can do no wrong because they aren't the US, and Russia could threaten to annex a country, and crickets from the "anti-imperialists".
I'm pretty sure Lefties have called him out on his treatment of women, trans and homosexuals, and Crimea

Not that the Ukrainian president does do similar things. The citizens built a whole ice fort over their tiff with the Ukrainian army
 

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I'm pretty sure Lefties have called him out on his treatment of women, trans and homosexuals, and Crimea

Not that the Ukrainian president does do similar things. The citizens built a whole ice fort over their tiff with the Ukrainian army
yeh but only them, everyone else is just a shitty awful CIs-White Male bigot and they deserve whatever they get or something.

Welcome to the progressive stack applied to international politics.
 
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Some woke world for you


Ah yes that'll show the police who is boss, destroying the groceries of an elderly couple. What a genius move doing that to a couple who are also pro police, not like anyone could see that coming back to bite them in the arse lol.

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Hunt down politicians in public in their private time but don't you dare criticise Joe Biden or you're threatening democracy (Same dude as in the tweet wrote that piece)
 

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If Russian President Vladimir Putin murdered one million Ukrainians. There would be wide swaths of American leftist, and foreign bots who LARP the USSR who would defend him to the bitter end.

If Biden does the same to the Iranians. Everyone would rightfully call him out. That's the difference between the sane left and the batshit crazy left. China and Russia can do no wrong because they aren't the US, and Russia could threaten to annex a country, and crickets from the "anti-imperialists".
Those leftists do exist. I've seen them myself but they're the type of um....''leftists'' who'd sooner vote for Trump than any Democrat but Sanders.

However for most of the left Putin is almost universally despised. He's a far right autocrat at the helm of an utterly corrupt thieving oligarchy that makes the Republicans look charitable and benevolent in comparison.

I think the persons you're describing are more ''anti american'' than left leaning.
 
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That's more a show of the hypocrisy of the EU as other EU states are giving them passports etc on the ground of "We'll give you this as long as you piss off to other mmber states and don't stay here"
Uhrm... so you're blaming the EU for... the actions of individual member states, which it doesn't control?
 
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Except it's exploiting the EUs own systems pretty much.
Which means countries are exploiting systems they themselves set up. If the system allows countries to ignore the EU then this typically isn't an accident. Its concessions the EU made to get the countries on board.
 
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Except it's exploiting the EUs own systems pretty much.
So you're criticising the existence of free movement of labour, then.

Uhrm, ok, but that's a core tenet of the EU and one of the main drivers of the economic boom it's experienced. Each state openly agreed to that when they signed up.
 

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So you're criticising the existence of free movement of labour, then.

Uhrm, ok, but that's a core tenet of the EU and one of the main drivers of the economic boom it's experienced. Each state openly agreed to that when they signed up.
Free movement of capital and goods but not labour sounds to me a lot like the rich and powerful should be allowed privileges that the poor aren't.
 

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yeh but only them, everyone else is just a shitty awful CIs-White Male bigot and they deserve whatever they get or something.

Welcome to the progressive stack applied to international politics.
Is Putin not a shitty awful Cis-white male bigot? That's... far too incredulous even for you

How about this, if someone comes at you with 'shitty Cis-white blah blah', understand that they are trying to stop you from acting like a Putin
 

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Free movement of capital and goods but not labour sounds to me a lot like the rich and powerful should be allowed privileges that the poor aren't.
Yes. But some of those poors are IMMIGRANTS. So we gotta punish all poors in case they might get a job

See also: punishing all transpeople for a potential incident in a bathroom. Punishing all poors because someone abuse welfare. Punishing all people from a certain ethnic group because a group of them did a bomb
 

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Free movement of capital and goods but not labour sounds to me a lot like the rich and powerful should be allowed privileges that the poor aren't.
Because of Merkel, the US couldn't lift or negotiate down the patents on the best mRNA vaccines in the world(Pfizer). Elements of the EU were willing to negotiate which I give them credit for on, but Merkel/the German government refused to budge.

Seems to me like Merkel cares more about Pfizer than the rest of the world, no wonder the Germans pushed her successor out in order to elect the SPD.
 

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Those leftists do exist. I've seen them myself but they're the type of um....''leftists'' who'd sooner vote for Trump than any Democrat but Sanders.

However for most of the left Putin is almost universally despised. He's a far right autocrat at the helm of an utterly corrupt thieving oligarchy that makes the Republicans look charitable and benevolent in comparison.

I think the persons you're describing are more ''anti american'' than left leaning.
I need to get off of Twitter, and Reddit. I have seen people saying since Ukrainians are white, they don't matter, so who cares if Putin annexes them.
 
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Is Putin not a shitty awful Cis-white male bigot? That's... far too incredulous even for you

How about this, if someone comes at you with 'shitty Cis-white blah blah', understand that they are trying to stop you from acting like a Putin
Ah yes because the general idea that 1 guy acts like that so it applies to all and we must clearly be stopped, totally doesn't come off hilariously awful or something