Don't worry. I'm sure someone on here will soon reassure us that Putin did nothing wrong, or that the US is responsible.
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"You got your blood and teeth all over my knuckles" - Putin, probably, but in Russian.
We literally do not have to react to anything Putin does.
All's I'm sayin's is:
- Fuck Putin, fuck Russia, every single word from them is a lie. They cannot be trusted or reasoned with, not now, not ever, not even after Putin.
- My country needs to join NATO now. Times have changed.
- I really wish I could meet the russian exchange student I shared a class with during the Crimea crisis. That ***** was hardcore brainwashed.
- And thanks Putin for finally giving the wider world something to unite against. The world has been clamoring for Hilter 2.0, and you stepped up. Good on you, now go die in a ditch.
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Maaaan fuck this.
I don't see how this can end well for anyone, Putin will have a really hard time holding Ukraine, especially with all the crippling sanction that will probably be imposed. I don't think anyone would declare war on Russia over this, cause of nuke, but M.A.D doesn't work when you're dealing with a madmen so who the hell knows what he'll do next.
I guess the only exit would be if Russian got rid of Putin, but that's almost certainly impossible at this point. Otherwise it seems like we'll just end up with north korea 2.0.
I wonder how China will react in all this...
I don't see how this can end well for anyone, Putin will have a really hard time holding Ukraine, especially with all the crippling sanction that will probably be imposed. I don't think anyone would declare war on Russia over this, cause of nuke, but M.A.D doesn't work when you're dealing with a madmen so who the hell knows what he'll do next.
I guess the only exit would be if Russian got rid of Putin, but that's almost certainly impossible at this point. Otherwise it seems like we'll just end up with north korea 2.0.
I wonder how China will react in all this...
I don't find the Hitler comparisons terribly persuasive when they're being deployed on behalf of a country that has banned the famous image of a soldier flying the Soviet flag over the Reichstag and regards enthusiastic Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera as a national hero. They're also not terribly persuasive when applied to a possible conflict between the holders of the two by far largest nuclear arsenals in the world. The second of those is the more important one practically speaking, but the first one has a special irony.
I don't think he plans to hold it if he ends up invading the whole thing. Everything I've read suggests he would be dumb to try to hold the western regions. He would shake things up (so to speak) and then leave. The Russo-Georgian War seems like a model of what to expect should Ukraine be totally defeated.
Yeah. This isn't seeming to hurt Putin's standing in Russia at all. Probably the opposite. Russia has a lot of people like... well, like most of the people commenting in this thread.
Man, with the vigor you're simping for Putin here I could make some comments about a certain appendage of his and your mouth, but it would likely get me suspended. What I really wanna know is how much does it pay? Gotta be a sweet deal considering the fervor you're showing.
BRB making a grindr profile and messaging men to tell them that I don't think that they are Hitler
Here's what the Trotskyists have to say...
Who in the Lord’s name gave the US the right? A question for Mr. Biden
This is a question, however, that much of the world would like Biden himself to answer. The “flagrant violation of international law” that Biden accused Russia of perpetrating is precisely what the United States is doing, with Biden directly and personally involved.
www.wsws.org
So Russia has begun an invasion of Ukraine while implying nuclear retaliation against anyone who interferes.
That's kind of a terrifying precedent for all Russias neighbours. "Let us do what we want or WW3".
That's kind of a terrifying precedent for all Russias neighbours. "Let us do what we want or WW3".
Don't worry, though. Nothing bad will happen as long as the US lets Russia do whatever she wants.
In fairness to Chamberlain, the British economy was still a mess after WW1, and people were in no hurry to start the greatest war in human history. After the 1938 agreement, IIRC, he did re-arm to an extent, and when WW2 started, after the period of phony war ended and the Germans attacked France, they quickly took it and chased the British across the channel.
For that matter, every major enemy of the USSR after 1945 avoided war with them as well.
Now, in hindsight we can say Chamberlain was wrong, and that might have been apparent at the time, but he had very good reasons to try to avoid war.
I completely agree with you, actually. I always felt Chamberlain made the decision that seemed best at the time, even if hindsight makes it a bit iffier. It was just the easiest name to think of when it came to "Just stand back and let one country invade another without interfering."
George W. Bush in 2008 concerning Georgia is another example. He would have been incorrect to intervene in Georgia.
He probably thought Hitler was going to go after the Soviet Union before France.
No matter how much the US has violated the international law (and there's plenty) and sovereignty of other countries (again, plenty of times) doesn't give Russia permission to do the same. Now it's upto Biden and other world leaders to find a way to de-escalate this situation or we'll be heading towards WW3.
I really wonder what China will do? They have some kind of alliance with Russia, but they have also been friends with Ukraine and Chinese aren't big fans of Russia because of Vladivostok.
I really wonder what China will do? They have some kind of alliance with Russia, but they have also been friends with Ukraine and Chinese aren't big fans of Russia because of Vladivostok.