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I never claimed either was true. I claimed other people were pushing said idea.
Do they believe white people have no culture or white people have one monoculture?

You gave claimed both (as in the "wokes" believe white people have no culture and have a monoculture, those are the two claims you have made
Claim 1: the woke position is that whites have no culture.
Claim 2: the woke position is that whites have a monoculture) and they mean different things.
 

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Whoopi was wrong.

Whiteness was bullshit made up by racists to exclude non-Whites. Whiteness doesn't exist as a category for who is in it, it's a category for who isn't. That's why many "white" people have been victims of racism.

It's not the "wokes" fault that racists also decided light skinned individuals aren't necessarily white. The only way to think the two positions are mutually exclusive is to believe that racists are consistent and logical.

Were the nazis motivated by racism? Yes. Are Jewish people white? Trick question, Whiteness isn't a thing.

How can the woke view both be that white culture doesn't exist and is also a monoculture?


One of the tweets you posted is from someone who has 3 followers! How do you even find that without just trolling twitter for absolute horseshit. You act like the "wokes" go around online looking for things to get angry about but you're right here in the shit too. Conservatives have gotten angry at M&M's being less fuckable and act like leftists are too sensitive because they care about actually marginalised groups.
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Also relativism fallacy when I was showing examples people do think like this. Hell I did also post a verified twitter account too.
 

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Do they believe white people have no culture or white people have one monoculture?

You gave claimed both (as in the "wokes" believe white people have no culture and have a monoculture, those are the two claims you have made
Claim 1: the woke position is that whites have no culture.
Claim 2: the woke position is that whites have a monoculture) and they mean different things.
I already explained in a previous post. Go look back at that but short version for now is NO.
 

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I already explained in a previous post. Go look back at that but short version for now is NO.
The short answer to an either or question is "no"? Right, so you're not even going to pretend you can talk about anything in good faith.

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Also relativism fallacy when I was showing examples people do think like this. Hell I did also post a verified twitter account too.
Ignored most my post.

I never claimed that nobody believed white people have no culture.

I never claimed that nobody claimed white people have a monoculture.

I pointed out they can't both be the "woke" position because they are different. Which one is the woke position because you're claiming both are.

I brought up the twitter thing because for someone who thinks people are being too sensitive to what's being said on twitter you always seems to have a collection of absolute nobody's saying stupid bullshit on twitter and acting like it's representative of something bigger. You had one verified twitter and the rest were all complete randos.
 

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Ask the people saying about it because I literally don't know as different nations and even people within those nations have their own cultures and traditions but apparently according to some "White people" are all one giant monoculture.
This is only a problem if they are wrong

You haven't stated that they are wrong (Or picked a claim they are wrong about) and then provided evidence about how they are wrong. You've just been offended

Hence me asking, 'what is white culture'
 

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Ask the people saying about it because I literally don't know as different nations and even people within those nations have their own cultures and traditions but apparently according to some "White people" are all one giant monoculture.
I mean, I definitely would say that Italian has culture. Ireland has culture. England has culture. Greek has culture.

I don't know if 'white' has culture.

If you read some of the rest of my comments, I think 'white culture' has done it best to delete national identities. Like a cultural borg, differences are removed.
 

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Ask the people saying about it because I literally don't know as different nations and even people within those nations have their own cultures and traditions but apparently according to some "White people" are all one giant monoculture.
Whiteness is a culture like mid-level management is a culture.
 

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I mean, I definitely would say that Italian has culture. Ireland has culture. England has culture. Greek has culture.

I don't know if 'white' has culture.

If you read some of the rest of my comments, I think 'white culture' has done it best to delete national identities. Like a cultural borg, differences are removed.
Isn't 'white culture' just be western, english-speaking capitalism and corporatisation? The one that's destroying the planet for profit?
 

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Isn't 'white culture' just be western, english-speaking capitalism and corporatisation? The one that's destroying the planet for profit?
I think it a lot of things

I wouldn't say white is english speaking, at least anymorr. Maybe more like dominated. But there are now plenty of languages that are now 'white culture'.

Corporatist and Capitalists? I think what's happened to white culture is the same that happened to leprechauns. Or Santa Claus. Sanitized and corportised to fit the general population. Generally, if 'whites' had a say, they wouldn't want to be bastardised like this, IMO. But lot of rich people would like that connection, to make themselves feel better about screwing others over

As to Western, that's another nebulous term that ends up meaning not much. There's a push for Mexicans and Asians to be included as white to score political points on the libs. In the last fortnight, now Ukrainians are being pushed as white when they certainly weren't in 2014.
 

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I think it a lot of things

I wouldn't say white is english speaking, at least anymorr. Maybe more like dominated. But there are now plenty of languages that are now 'white culture'.

Corporatist and Capitalists? I think what's happened to white culture is the same that happened to leprechauns. Or Santa Claus. Sanitized and corportised to fit the general population. Generally, if 'whites' had a say, they wouldn't want to be bastardised like this, IMO. But lot of rich people would like that connection, to make themselves feel better about screwing others over

As to Western, that's another nebulous term that ends up meaning not much. There's a push for Mexicans and Asians to be included as white to score political points on the libs. In the last fortnight, now Ukrainians are being pushed as white when they certainly weren't in 2014.
Sort of my vague point - it's whatever can be packaged and sold as such to consumers, the words are just replaceable buzzwords.
 

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With what fuel prices are right now, just imagine how much money someone must be laying out for this.
Someone did the math and it worked out to ~$200 of diesel per truck for 2 laps of doing literally nothing since they were kind enough to keep to one lane and got blown off the road.
 
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For context, he's mad that the Pixar Twitter account highlighted a quote from somebody happy to see a kid portrayed like they used to be in their upcoming children's movie.
 

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For context, he's mad that the Pixar Twitter account highlighted a quote from somebody happy to see a kid portrayed like they used to be in their upcoming children's movie.
I'm still a little confused, he's mad certain people's hypocrisy and double standards as well? Going by the pictures, it sure does look like. So LGBTQ is okay in Western/American cartoons, but whenever Japan does the same, it's all of sudden "problematic"? I can see why someone can get angry ignorant asshole being oblivious hypocrites.
 

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I'm still a little confused, he's mad certain people's hypocrisy and double standards as well? Going by the pictures, it sure does look like. So LGBTQ is okay in Western/American cartoons, but whenever Japan does the same, it's all of sudden "problematic"? I can see why someone can get angry ignorant asshole being oblivious hypocrites.
It's such a confused mess of a tangle that I had to dig into Twitter a bit for context.

He's mad that people criticised his favourite manga (Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid), because although the characters are canonically over 18, they're drawn in a way that sometimes makes them look a lot younger (as quite a lot of yuri manga does), and at the same time it's quite sexualised (maid outfits, massive boobs, the classic yuri fare).

He's basically saying it's no different than The Owl House, in which the protagonists are under 18. But... uhrm, Owl House isn't sexualised at all. So that's a silly equivalence.
 

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He's mad that people criticised his favourite manga (Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid), because although the characters are canonically over 18, they're drawn in a way that sometimes makes them look a lot younger (as quite a lot of yuri manga does), and at the same time it's quite sexualised (maid outfits, massive boobs, the classic yuri fare).
So ... the paedo-bait 5000 year old witches thing?
 

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It's such a confused mess of a tangle that I had to dig into Twitter a bit for context.

He's mad that people criticised his favourite manga (Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid), because although the characters are canonically over 18, they're drawn in a way that sometimes makes them look a lot younger (as quite a lot of yuri manga does), and at the same time it's quite sexualised (maid outfits, massive boobs, the classic yuri fare).

He's basically saying it's no different than The Owl House, in which the protagonists are under 18. But... uhrm, Owl House isn't sexualised at all. So that's a silly equivalence.
Some are over 18, not all of them. Not the young boy who gets hit on by the big titted mommy lady who forces physical contact of a highly improper nature, because she wants to "comfort him". Then there's scenes of a young 10-year old girl seemingly (cartoonishly) orgasming because another young girl is sucking on her finger. And then ofcourse we have the underaged girl with ridiculously huge knockers.

So yeah, this is what The Owl House is being compared to. And I mean, I sorta...-ish like Kobayashi's Dragon Maid - it's got a swell, relaxed, loveable mood to it, but it's got some BIG 'don't let anyone catch you watching it' vibes.

Also, just to prove my point; take a closer look at the picture of the three girls, and you'll see the one in the middle isn't getting kissed, she's getting licked, because ofcourse Japan, why wouldn't you.
 
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Some are over 18, not all of them. Not the young boy who gets hit on by the big titted mommy lady who forces physical contact of a highly improper nature, because she wants to "comfort him". Then there's scenes of a young 10-year old girl seemingly (cartoonishly) orgasming because another young girl is sucking on her finger. And then ofcourse we have the underaged girl with ridiculously huge knockers.

So yeah, this is what The Owl House is being compared to. And I mean, I sorta...-ish like Kobayashi's Dragon Maid - it's got a swell, relaxed, loveable mood to it, but it's got some BIG 'don't let anyone catch you watching it' vibes.

Also, just to prove my point; take a closer look at the picture of the three girls, and you'll see the one in the middle isn't getting kissed, she's getting licked, because ofcourse Japan, why wouldn't you.
Think I might give it a miss.