Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[Phoenixmgs]

Then you said you had never been offended by anything in your life.

In context of said Stephen Fry quote I mentioned...

Yet those words would still be racist and perceived as racist, especially by those who those words are meant discriminate against. And I know this might sound like an after school special, but I guess it's necessary to say; Words have impact. Bullying isn't just physically beating someone up. The word 'fatty' is pretty harmless on its own, but if you're called that day in and day out, at school or at work, it's going to have an impact on you. But then I guess everyone calling you that could just say 'Hey, come on, I don't mean that as an insult, it's cuz I like you' and it wouldn't matter?

What if someone put a burning cross on the lawn of a black family? Is that actual racist harm being done, or is it just some burning timber and the family in question really shouldn't be offended by it? What is actual racist harm in your mind; physical violence that is racially motivated? By your reasoning shouldn't the racial motivation not mean anything to the victim, only the beating? If you feel that there is no such thing as offending, then racism by these standards doesn't exist at all, since all it would entail is one group of people being perceived as lesser by another, and why would the former group care and have a less content day then, right?

You do realize you also have the power to not let things bother you, right? It's like the recent example of Juwan Howard, the coach of Michigan college basketball, letting the other coach's timeout (Juwan was literally upset that the coach called a timeout) and got mad enough to slap him and now he's suspended for the season. That example has nothing to do with racism obviously, but a lot of people have far too little mental willpower and let such little things majorly affect them. Or people getting "offended" by Dave Chappelle's standup; you can, you know, not watch his specials then. And if someone calls you a racial slur and you see other people giving that guy the look that that's not cool or telling them to "fuck off", you know society has deemed that guy as being pathetic so why are you gonna get offended? You're always going to have some people like that no matter what just like some people think the earth is flat. And, of course, people can use racially charged words without being racist or intending to be hurtful at all like saying I got the itis after a big meal. Stephen Fry's quote is mainly about political correctness.

I said in a post above that verbal abuse is a thing, thus I'm not implying that words have no impact. You shouldn't be on anyone's property without permission and I'm sure setting fire to anything on someone's property is a crime. There's tons of different kinds of racial harm like physical violence obviously, not being able to get a loan or a job, not allowed to eat at a restaurant, being pulled over for no reason by the cops, state of school funding, etc. Something like the overreaction of that Justine Sacco tweet that got her fired ~10 years ago is the kinda stuff I'm talking about, not burning crosses on black people's lawns.

 

[Casual Shinji]

You do realize you also have the power to not let things bother you, right? It's like the recent example of Juwan Howard, the coach of Michigan college basketball, letting the other coach's timeout (Juwan was literally upset that the coach called a timeout) and got mad enough to slap him and now he's suspended for the season. That example has nothing to do with racism obviously, but a lot of people have far too little mental willpower and let such little things majorly affect them.

We're not talking about slapping someone in the face for being offended, we're talking about simply calling out offensive behaviour, like using racial slurs.

Or people getting "offended" by Dave Chappelle's standup; you can, you know, not watch his specials then. And if someone calls you a racial slur and you see other people giving that guy the look that that's not cool or telling them to "fuck off", you know society has deemed that guy as being pathetic so why are you gonna get offended? You're always going to have some people like that no matter what just like some people think the earth is flat. And, of course, people can use racially charged words without being racist or intending to be hurtful at all like saying I got the itis after a big meal. Stephen Fry's quote is mainly about political correctness.

And those people giving the guy the 'not cool' look and telling them to fuck off, how is that not them getting offended and telling someone to stop doing that? Shouldn't they equally not let it bother them that this guy was being racist? How is that different from people calling out Dave Chappelle for what he said? Also there's not always going to be other people around to speak up if someone or multiple people are being racist or bigoted toward you or someone else. So in that case, what, they still shouldn't be offended and just go on with their day?

And regarding people who think the Earth is flat... yeah, we counter that and say 'you're wrong, and maybe stop saying it'.

I said in a post above that verbal abuse is a thing, thus I'm not implying that words have no impact. You shouldn't be on anyone's property without permission and I'm sure setting fire to anything on someone's property is a crime. There's tons of different kinds of racial harm like physical violence obviously, not being able to get a loan or a job, not allowed to eat at a restaurant, being pulled over for no reason by the cops, state of school funding, etc. Something like the overreaction of that Justine Sacco tweet that got her fired ~10 years ago is the kinda stuff I'm talking about, not burning crosses on black people's lawns.

So words do have impact and people can get offended by them. And rhetoric does have impact on society as a whole to a point where people of a certain skin color can't get jobs or will get pulled over by cops. None of that is in the law after all, it's just people's biases, which are heavily influenced by racist rhetoric and stereotyping. You said yourself that there's tons of different kinds racial harm, so it isn't just some people who are like that, it's A LOT. And if we decide to just not be offended by it and leave it be than that's exactly how it spreads. The rise of the Klu Klux Clan coinciding with Birth of a Nation wasn't just a coincidence. And afterall, that was just a movie people could've choosen not to watch.

 

[Trunkage]

Something like the overreaction of that Justine Sacco tweet that got her fired ~10 years ago is the kinda stuff I'm talking about

Wait, NOW you are saying that words can hurt you? After how many posts?

EDIT: Just gotta ask. Why couldn't Justine just not get offended by what people said? That would have cure the problem, right?

 

[Seanchaidh]

 

[Gordon_4]

Yeah that was a drastic overreaction.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

We're not talking about slapping someone in the face for being offended, we're talking about simply calling out offensive behaviour, like using racial slurs.

And those people giving the guy the 'not cool' look and telling them to fuck off, how is that not them getting offended and telling someone to stop doing that? Shouldn't they equally not let it bother them that this guy was being racist? How is that different from people calling out Dave Chappelle for what he said? Also there's not always going to be other people around to speak up if someone or multiple people are being racist or bigoted toward you or someone else. So in that case, what, they still shouldn't be offended and just go on with their day?

And regarding people who think the Earth is flat... yeah, we counter that and say 'you're wrong, and maybe stop saying it'.

So words do have impact and people can get offended by them. And rhetoric does have impact on society as a whole to a point where people of a certain skin color can't get jobs or will get pulled over by cops. None of that is in the law after all, it's just people's biases, which are heavily influenced by racist rhetoric and stereotyping. You said yourself that there's tons of different kinds racial harm, so it isn't just some people who are like that, it's A LOT. And if we decide to just not be offended by it and leave it be than that's exactly how it spreads. The rise of the Klu Klux Clan coinciding with Birth of a Nation wasn't just a coincidence. And afterall, that was just a movie people could've choosen not to watch.

Say if someone cuts in line and people give them the look and tell them to fuck off, does that mean everyone just got "offended" and actually hurt and harmed in some manner? Or you say Star Wars sucks at the opening of the next Star Wars movie, did you just offend everyone? Stephen Fry said what he said when he spent a lot of time in a world that wasn't very pro-gay to the say the least.

Wait, NOW you are saying that words can hurt you? After how many posts?

EDIT: Just gotta ask. Why couldn't Justine just not get offended by what people said? That would have cure the problem, right?

When did I say verbal abuse wasn't a thing?

Uhh... She got fired from her job. I didn't know ignoring what other people said stops you from getting fired.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

It's Always Sunny quotes that I posted but the actual clips are on Youtube now.

 

[Trunkage]

Say if someone cuts in line and people give them the look and tell them to fuck off, does that mean everyone just got "offended" and actually hurt and harmed in some manner? Or you say Star Wars sucks at the opening of the next Star Wars movie, did you just offend everyone? Stephen Fry said what he said when he spent a lot of time in a world that wasn't very pro-gay to the say the least.


When did I say verbal abuse wasn't a thing?

Uhh... She got fired from her job. I didn't know ignoring what other people said stops you from getting fired.

What are we even doing here?

Is offended an on/off switch to you?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Reminder that corporate Pride is always bullshit, regardless of how many First LGBT Character in Baseball Trivia characters you have

 

[tstorm823]

So, comments like this have been doing the rounds on the internet the last couple weeks:




And it's funny, because the people posting it don't seem to realize the self-own they're doing. I don't know if it's actually true that there are less "MAGA troll posts" with the war in Ukraine going on, but it's sort of a moot point. These people think they're saying "ha! we told you Republicans are Russian puppets!"... but what this actually says is that these left-wing people don't actually interact with Republicans/conservatives, they just argue with Russian trolls all day.

 

[thebobmaster]

Reminder that corporate Pride is always bullshit, regardless of how many First LGBT Character in Baseball Trivia characters you have

One YouTuber by the name of Kevin Perjurer, who is best known for the series Defunctland was...less than impressed.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

One YouTuber by the name of Kevin Perjurer, who is best known for the series Defunctland was...less than impressed.

If there's one person who knows his shit when it comes to Disney, it's Kevin Perjurer.

 

[Seanchaidh]

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I just recently stumbled upon what happened with the G4TV relaunch. I didn't even know G4TV was back. They had some crazy chick talking about sexism in gaming when she was supposed to be talking about RDR2 online IIRC, then G4TV is like if you don't like it you can stop watching, and everyone stopped watching. Then, G4TV cancelled that show and put on some chick from Twitch or something (never heard of her) in a kid's ball pit wearing a bikini. And Adam Sessler turned out to be an asshole it looks like. Super weird shit.

 

[Gordon_4]

I just recently stumbled upon what happened with the G4TV relaunch. I didn't even know G4TV was back. They had some crazy chick talking about sexism in gaming when she was supposed to be talking about RDR2 online IIRC, then G4TV is like if you don't like it you can stop watching, and everyone stopped watching. Then, G4TV cancelled that show and put on some chick from Twitch or something (never heard of her) in a kid's ball pit wearing a bikini. And Adam Sessler turned out to be an asshole it looks like. Super weird shit.

That's all I got.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

That's all I got.

G4TV then stood with that crazy lady and told people to stop watching. Everyone stopped watching, G4TV cancelled that show, then put on some streamer chick in a bikini playing in a kiddie ball pit. That's literally what happened.

 

[evilneko]

Maybe she went off script, and maybe the delivery could've been better, but it's not like what she said ain't true. Her wording, tone, and delivery all would've just made the assholes who need to understand her message just turn off very quickly. After about 30 seconds to a minute tops, she was just preaching to the choir, and worse yet, feeding the hate that caused her rant in the first place.

I bet she felt a helluva catharsis after it though.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

The culture war over the topic makes it basically impossible to do research on, but it looks like she still has her job, her segment is still going, and the booby streamer was a different segment that came months after her rant. Incongruous to be sure, but not as directly related as it seems.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Maybe she went off script, and maybe the delivery could've been better, but it's not like what she said ain't true. Her wording, tone, and delivery all would've just made the assholes who need to understand her message just turn off very quickly. After about 30 seconds to a minute tops, she was just preaching to the choir, and worse yet, feeding the hate that caused her rant in the first place.

I bet she felt a helluva catharsis after it though.

The culture war over the topic makes it basically impossible to do research on, but it looks like she still has her job, her segment is still going, and the booby streamer was a different segment that came months after her rant. Incongruous to be sure, but not as directly related as it seems.

It seems like she got mad at people because she was saying just plain wrong information about games and they called her out. Thus, it must be because she's a woman that's not a model vs she was just wrong. That's why she said Adam and I read from the same script and whatnot in the rant. She wasn't talking about sexism at like say Ubisoft but yelling at her audience that they're sexist when they're just trying to watch a segment that's supposed to be about RDR2 online. It's not that G4 or any channel can't have 2 shows that are, you know, 2 different shows; it's that G4 stood with her, told people not to watch if they didn't like it, then had some streamer wear a bikini in a ball pit when they took a stand against sexism. G4 even promoted the rant video and everything hoping to pull in an audience and failed miserably. Also, Adam Sessler has tweeted that his family members can die that don't share his political views. Pretty fucked up.

DreamcastGuy's video is removed from the "culture war". It's literally G4 came back and sucks. I listen to stuff on the Escapist on my commute to work a lot because they talk about, you know, games and gaming and other stuff like TV/movies. I ain't gonna get some misplaced rant besides for maybe Nick talking about how twitter sucks

 

[Gergar12]

Jon Stewart got backlash for this comment, but I don't think that's merited, but I think that for another reason; not that Oil companies aren't our enemies.

When you were standard oil(Now Exxon Mobil), you were the innovators against the jerks who wanted to keep their horses. Now as time goes on the fossil fuel companies starting in the 1940s, and 1950s became more conservative in their thinking. They started out from being like Facebook back then to Facebook now. The best answer to seeing the Earth was about to become warmer was to basically disrupt your industry so that you become the next Elon Musk, and your company innovates and becomes a fast-moving, always changing, relevant company, but that's hard, someone else may steal your thunder while you're doing it, and oil is very profitable. The next best answer would be to sweep it behind the rug and innovate only when forced to due to the fact that oil is very profitable. Sadly they picked the second option.

In my opinion, the answer is in the middle, there has to be a middle ground between being a tech company that wants to automate your job and a conservative company that does not want to disrupt its industry in the face of many dead people in the future. The tech company of course will defend itself by saying it's capitalism's fault that it will impact you poorly; which is true but doesn't change the fact your actions will leave me on the streets, and the tech company is easier to attack than capitalism.

Oil companies when the Exxon report came out, and if they were led by a visionary would have just started to produce natural gas, nuclear power, and renewables. But they didn't. The problem with disaster capitalism is that instead of saying I can undercut this asshole by producing a better or newer product they are basically saying we should price-gorge, and keep doing what we are doing. I hope in the future these people are screened out, but I also don't want my job to be done by AI, so it's basically between a rock and hard place.

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