Colorado signs law allowing abortion at ANY POINT in PREGNANCY

[Phoenixmgs]

The right to abortion in Colorado is now guaranteed under state law

Colorado joins 15 other states that have enacted laws to protect abortion, while the U.S. Supreme Court considers a challenge to Roe v. Wade and conservative legislatures take aim at the practice.

www.npr.org

You can see how left leaning NPR is using the dumbest term ever "pregnant people".

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This law allows a woman to get an abortion literally the minute before she would give birth, which is pretty damn ridiculous. Take a peek at progressive European countries and they don't allow this.

Every single (R) law that usually does like nothing (like the Florida Parental Rights law) gets tons of outrage how it's like the worst thing ever. Let's see if this (D) law that is completely ridiculous gets the same kinda outrage.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Good. Nobody getting an abortion that late is doing it on a lark and adding an administrative hurdle at that point does more harm than good.

Side note: absolutely hilarious how people championing the rights of women (/sarcasm) steadfastly refuse to call women people.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

 

[Chimpzy]

Probably a reaction to the Colorado GOP's continued attempts to ban/criminalize abortion in almost all cases, the latest of which was only a couple months ago.

Colorado Democrats stop GOP’s anti-abortion measures and brace for threat to Roe v. Wade

House Democrats voted down three Republican abortion proposals during a committee meeting that started at 1:30 Wednesday afternoon and didn’t wrap until just after 1:30 Thursday morning.

www.denverpost.com

Also, the law doesn't allow abortion at any point. Colorado already had no term limit before the bill. What it does is ensure no public entity can take away or deny that right.

 

[MrCalavera]

I'm sure it's not real, or there's an important part left out, but still

 

[Casual Shinji]

This law allows a woman to get an abortion literally the minute before she would give birth, which is pretty damn ridiculous.

That would probably be ridiculous, as in that case they would induce labour NOT perform an abortion. And as has been noted, no one who wants an abortion is going to wait for 7 months to get one just for yucks. I know conservatives have this weird brain thing going where they think 'If abortions are legal women will just get pregnant just to have them', not knowing these are very invasive procedures that nobody gets willy nilly.

Also, we talk about pregnant dogs, cats, and various other animals all the time, sooooo yeah, 'pregnant people' really isn't that abnormal a term once you think for a few seconds and realize 'by jove, women are people'. Get over it.

 

[Elvis Starburst]

Also, the law doesn't allow abortion at any point. Colorado already had no term limit before the bill. What it does is ensure no public entity can take away or deny that right.

Pffbt- whaaaaaaat? People reading the sources they're complaining about, thus allowing them to make more accurate arguments? That's silly. You're silly!

 

[Phoenixmgs]

That would probably be ridiculous, as in that case they would induce labour NOT perform an abortion. And as has been noted, no one who wants an abortion is going to wait for 7 months to get one just for yucks. I know conservatives have this weird brain thing going where they think 'If abortions are legal women will just get pregnant just to have them', not knowing these are very invasive procedures that nobody gets willy nilly.

Also, we talk about pregnant dogs, cats, and various other animals all the time, sooooo yeah, 'pregnant people' really isn't that abnormal a term once you think for a few seconds and realize 'by jove, women are people'. Get over it.

I posted just to point out the hypocrisy over R bills/laws not doing similar things like the Florida Parental Rights law or the CRT laws. Nobody here seems to post D laws that are actually bad because that's their "team".

The term pregnant people is all about the culture war. I didn't realize calling women women was not calling them people... nor has there ever been a pregnant person that wasn't a woman.

The Culture War Over ‘Pregnant People’

Some advocates on the left want America to talk about pregnancy and birth in gender-neutral terms. But this language change might not be so easy for the country to embrace.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

EDIT:

I posted just to point out the hypocrisy over R bills/laws not doing similar things like the Florida Parental Rights law or the CRT laws. Nobody here seems to post D laws that are actually bad because that's their "team".

I mean, it's also not a bad law, so...

The term pregnant people is all about the culture war. I didn't realize calling women women was not calling them people... nor has there ever been a pregnant person that wasn't a woman.

The Culture War Over ‘Pregnant People’

Some advocates on the left want America to talk about pregnancy and birth in gender-neutral terms. But this language change might not be so easy for the country to embrace.

www.theatlantic.com

There is actually a very huge and important subset of pregnant people who are not women. I'ma give you a chance to guess who that is.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I posted just to point out the hypocrisy over R bills/laws not doing similar things like the Florida Parental Rights law or the CRT laws. Nobody here seems to post D laws that are actually bad because that's their "team".

What is actually bad about it? Also, the democrates aren't my team.

The term pregnant people is all about the culture war. I didn't realize calling women women was not calling them people... nor has there ever been a pregnant person that wasn't a woman.

The Culture War Over ‘Pregnant People’

Some advocates on the left want America to talk about pregnancy and birth in gender-neutral terms. But this language change might not be so easy for the country to embrace.

www.theatlantic.com

Yet here you unironically call a woman a 'pregnant person'. So looks like just for an instant you got over it and understood the fluidity of language.

Also, at one point in time the word 'woman' and verbal language as a whole didn't exist and humans were still getting pregnant.

 

[BrawlMan]

What is actually bad about it? Also, the democrates aren't my team.

Yet here you unironically call a woman a 'pregnant person'. So looks like just for an instant you got over it and understood the fluidity of language.

Also, at one point in time the word 'woman' and verbal language as a whole didn't exist and humans were still getting pregnant.

As usual, the arms chair "medical expert" does not know anything.

 

[Casual Shinji]

As usual, the arms chair "medical expert" does not know anything.

I didn't know some of this shit ran this deep for some people here, but I guess that's the world we live in now.

*sigh*

 

[BrawlMan]

I didn't know some of this shit ran this deep for some people here, but I guess that's the world we live in now.

*sigh*

I'm surprised you didn't notice sooner. Phoenix has been spouting the whole, "masks don't do anything"/anti-mask rhetoric since the very start of the pandemic. I choose not to talk to a man that lacks so much empathy and spreads hurtful (lack of) knowledge on all of humanity. Yet it is more than happy to support jackasses who don't give a rip about anyone, but themselves.

 

[Cheetodust]

I posted just to point out the hypocrisy over R bills/laws not doing similar things like the Florida Parental Rights law or the CRT laws. Nobody here seems to post D laws that are actually bad because that's their "team".

The term pregnant people is all about the culture war. I didn't realize calling women women was not calling them people... nor has there ever been a pregnant person that wasn't a woman.

The Culture War Over ‘Pregnant People’

Some advocates on the left want America to talk about pregnancy and birth in gender-neutral terms. But this language change might not be so easy for the country to embrace.

www.theatlantic.com

Okay, so you don't believe trans men are men and you don't respect gender identity. Can you stop pretending you do in the trans athletes thread now?

 

[Cheetodust]

Also to paraphrase the OP from multiple threads, you could just choose not to be bothered by it y'know.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Also to paraphrase the OP from multiple threads, you could just choose not to be bothered by it y'know.

Seriously

This is one of those "culture war" big huge blow ups that just bounces off anybody who isn't mired in culture war shit. You say like "yeah, hospital says <x> should help out pregnant people" in casual conversation, 99.9% of the time people wouldn't notice or care

 

[Cheetodust]

Seriously

This is one of those "culture war" big huge blow ups that just bounces off anybody who isn't mired in culture war shit. You say like "yeah, hospital says <x> should help out pregnant people" in casual conversation, 99.9% of the time people wouldn't notice or care

I'm just sick of this fucking nonsense where "it's only words" whenever some ding-dong doesn't care about a minority group being the victim of bigotry but when it's anything that goes against the status quo then suddenly it's not just language and it's actually something much more insidious. It's so goddamned transparent I don't know why they bother pretending they aren't just bigoted because literally everyone can see it for what it is. The people who care about the minority group in question know what's happening and those that don't can hear the dog whistle loud and clear.

 

[Elvis Starburst]

I'm just sick of this fucking nonsense where "it's only words" whenever some ding-dong doesn't care about a minority group being the victim of bigotry but when it's anything that goes against the status quo then suddenly it's not just language and it's actually something much more insidious. It's so goddamned transparent I don't know why they bother pretending they aren't just bigoted because literally everyone can see it for what it is. The people who care about the minority group in question know what's happening and those that don't can hear the dog whistle loud and clear.

That implies there's some actually sensible thought going into this bigoted way of thinking besides "This thing I don't like is bad and everyone should suffer for it" despite it being none of their fucking business. This world would be better with a lot less opinionated people forcing their beliefs onto others they have no reason to be involved with. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when their opinion compels them to act and "make things right" when their definition of "right" is correct only to them... then that is where the line is crossed

 

[Seanchaidh]

The right to abortion in Colorado is now guaranteed under state law

Colorado joins 15 other states that have enacted laws to protect abortion, while the U.S. Supreme Court considers a challenge to Roe v. Wade and conservative legislatures take aim at the practice.

www.npr.org

You can see how left leaning NPR is using the dumbest term ever "pregnant people".

There are people who are not women who can be pregnant. You're literally just objecting to accuracy.

This law allows a woman to get an abortion literally the minute before she would give birth,

Good!

 

[Trunkage]

There are people who are not women who can be pregnant. You're literally just objecting to accuracy.

A large reason why Texas et al have made their transpeople law the way they did is to just pretend that this is not an thing