Discuss and Rate the Last Thing You Watched (non-movies)

[Agema]

NOTE: He wins over Ann Hathaway through relentless pursuit. In reality, does that ever work? If a girls says back off, does haunting her ever win her over?

I think that is something often portrayed as romantic determination in media, but in the real world is more likely to be experienced as creepy, low-level stalking or harassment.

The guy is supposedly still worth $1.5 billion. Hardly a failure from what I can tell. But it is fun.

The company's implosion was infamous, but it's apparently still a viable concern and making billions in revenue every year. One might suppose if Neumann owned a huge chunk of it, buying him out at that sort of price might have been worth it, and we can argue that his basic business idea was sound, even if he wasn't adequately equipped to run a company.

I guess it was effectively a one-company bubble, and its downfall a lot more to do with witless investors pumping unrealistic sums into it than its dodgy founder / CEO.

 

[Piscian]

Yes, all the haircuts are like they said, “How can we make this look bad even by 80’s fashion standards?”

I refuse to accept that kid isn't aware of how bad his haircut looks. The thing is those bowl cuts do work on some people, but he literally looks like an escaped mental patient, no pun intended. I also noticed he's barely in the show. I really get the impression he did not want to come back for this season. Has he had more than 5 or 6 lines of dialog?

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I refuse to accept that kid isn't aware of how bad his haircut looks. The thing is those bowl cuts do work on some people, but he literally looks like an escaped mental patient, no pun intended. I also noticed he's barely in the show. I really get the impression he did not want to come back for this season. Has he had more than 5 or 6 lines of dialog?

Very minimal but a bit more in later episodes. They jump around a lot since there’s like three storylines going on. Even then the main group of kids is scattered and shares screen time with several new randoms.

 

[Kyrian007]

Yes, all the haircuts are like they said, “How can we make this look bad even by 80’s fashion standards?”

I'd agree... but I've found a picture of me taken in the early 90's. Canary yellow sleeveless tshirt, neon purple and pink parachute pants, and a permed curly mullet. I looked like Gaten Matarazzo dyed his hair to the white/blonde of teenage Johnny Lawrence, cut it into a mullet, permed it into curls, and dressed like AC Slater. No wonder I transitioned hard into "goth" by the mid 90's. I still looked like an idiot in goth gear, but at least it was an idiot you couldn't see from 3 counties over. Can't fault the Stranger Things kids for their style, 80's and 90's style was really awful looking for everyone. Especially kids and teens.

 

[Agema]

I'd agree... but I've found a picture of me taken in the early 90's. Canary yellow sleeveless tshirt, neon purple and pink parachute pants, and a permed curly mullet. I looked like Gaten Matarazzo dyed his hair to the white/blonde of teenage Johnny Lawrence, cut it into a mullet, permed it into curls, and dressed like AC Slater. No wonder I transitioned hard into "goth" by the mid 90's. I still looked like an idiot in goth gear, but at least it was an idiot you couldn't see from 3 counties over. Can't fault the Stranger Things kids for their style, 80's and 90's style was really awful looking for everyone. Especially kids and teens.

Agreed. I think kids back then generally had less sense of style because it had much less presence in media, and I was more towards the extreme of particularly little sense of style. I had a bowl cut for way too long, to my early teens. Looked awful, but I didn't really notice because I was used to it. I moved to a parting because finally the other kids at school started going at me a bit hard over it... but then I let it grow too long and mullet-like. That lasted a couple of years until one day I looked at a recent photo of myself, and it dawned on me that I mostly just looked ridiculous. I also tended to wear cheap, badly designed and nondescript clothing: that didn't change until my mid-20s.

 

[Gordon_4]

I'd agree... but I've found a picture of me taken in the early 90's. Canary yellow sleeveless tshirt, neon purple and pink parachute pants, and a permed curly mullet. I looked like Gaten Matarazzo dyed his hair to the white/blonde of teenage Johnny Lawrence, cut it into a mullet, permed it into curls, and dressed like AC Slater. No wonder I transitioned hard into "goth" by the mid 90's. I still looked like an idiot in goth gear, but at least it was an idiot you couldn't see from 3 counties over. Can't fault the Stranger Things kids for their style, 80's and 90's style was really awful looking for everyone. Especially kids and teens.

Every time I see a picture of myself from school I have to fight a strong urge to set everything on fire.

 

[Agema]

Killing Eve - Season 4 (BBC)

Yeah, well. It is really at this stage just the same characters with the tried and tested formula of whimsy, personalities, style etc. failing to cover the reality of a show that is now, at core, completely empty. There's a plot to uncover/kill the mysterious "12" that makes almost no sense and isn't worth following, the bizarre and unconvincing quasi romance between Eve and Villanelle that really doesn't make much sense if you think on it too hard, and everything going through the motions to little apparent character development or interest. I think it threw in a couple of new assassin characters to focus on just to help disguise how little was going on with everything else. This is a show that has long since lost any point existing - in fact should probably have ended after season 2.

In short, don't bother.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I'd agree... but I've found a picture of me taken in the early 90's. Canary yellow sleeveless tshirt, neon purple and pink parachute pants, and a permed curly mullet. I looked like Gaten Matarazzo dyed his hair to the white/blonde of teenage Johnny Lawrence, cut it into a mullet, permed it into curls, and dressed like AC Slater. No wonder I transitioned hard into "goth" by the mid 90's. I still looked like an idiot in goth gear, but at least it was an idiot you couldn't see from 3 counties over. Can't fault the Stranger Things kids for their style, 80's and 90's style was really awful looking for everyone. Especially kids and teens.

Maybe it’s because I was too young in the 80’s to really adopt anything trendy, including hairstyles. It does seem like they went out of their way to get the dork look though, at least a bit.

 

[Piscian]

Maybe it’s because I was too young in the 80’s to really adopt anything trendy, including hairstyles. It does seem like they went out of their way to get the dork look though, at least a bit.

I was an 82 kid. Bowl cuts with their bowl namesake were something parents who were typically fruggle would give their younger kids to save money. I remember most white teens had jewfros, shaggy hair like steve or Jonathan or buzzcuts. Lucas high hiphop cut really doesnt suit him but its in tune with that period, I think I just looked and kid&play who I believe made that hair popular didnt show up til the late 80s. I thought season 4 takes place in 84 which means Lucas might look a bit weird. Lucas cut isnt faded very well so it looks like hes wearing a hat imo.

idk it just sticks out to me that every kid except dustin looks like theyre wearing a wig and noah looks the worst. Its gotta be intentional.

 

[Chimpzy]

Obi-Wan epi 3

So this is the cheap episode, taking place on a "mining planet", meaning it was filmed on location in a gravelpit and what I suspect are the hills behind the studio. I uppose the budget wasn't infinite and they had to save somewhere after Tatooine Tunisia again, and then Bladerunner planet. Other than that, it was kind of meh. It spends a fair amount of time putting Obi-Wan and Leia into peril, but we already know they'll make it through, so bye bye tension. The inquisitors trying to one-up and backstab each other is fun tho. Oh, and Vader is in it, proving how much of an evil baddie he is by force killing a bunch of innocent bystanders cuz he's such an evil baddie. At first I thought it was intended to draw out Obi-Wan, you know "come out or people will keep dying", but nah, he just kills for shits and giggles I guess. Ok, fine, Sith lord and all. And they already did the threaten the innocent thing with Owen in the first episode. Vader then fights Obi-Wan between piles of gravel, and wins and tortures Obi-Wan, but the latter gets saved by Ellaria Sand when she ignites some flammable stuff to create a patch of fire. Which allows Obi-Wan to escape, because Vader clearly can't do anything about that firepatch, even tho he created one himself only minutes before in the exact same spot and had no problems force pulling Obi-Wan into it, then effortlessly extinguishing the flames with the force. Indeed, nothing to be done.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

I'm gonna wrap up Tokyo Vice tonight.

You know, I think a bunch of you would like it, really. I mean there is the whole American dude in Japan thing, so, you know, weeb party! But also, it's a pretty tight little location piece / suspense story, it's got Ken Watanabe and pretty solid cast (honestly the Japanese/Asian actors are more engaging than the white folks for some reason) and it's a nice little time capsule of late-'90s. It's certainly not amazing or anything but if you're down for 8 episodes of a fish-out-of-water drama in between all your Elden Rings and Obi-Wans, I recommend.

 

[thebobmaster]

Obi-Wan epi 3

So this is the cheap episode, taking place on a "mining planet", meaning it was filmed on location in a gravelpit and what I suspect are the hills behind the studio. I uppose the budget wasn't infinite and they had to save somewhere after Tatooine Tunisia again, and then Bladerunner planet. Other than that, it was kind of meh. It spends a fair amount of time putting Obi-Wan and Leia into peril, but we already know they'll make it through, so bye bye tension. The inquisitors trying to one-up and backstab each other is fun tho. Oh, and Vader is in it, proving how much of an evil baddie he is by force killing a bunch of innocent bystanders cuz he's such an evil baddie. At first I thought it was intended to draw out Obi-Wan, you know "come out or people will keep dying", but nah, he just kills for shits and giggles I guess. Ok, fine, Sith lord and all. And they already did the threaten the innocent thing with Owen in the first episode. Vader then fights Obi-Wan between piles of gravel, and wins and tortures Obi-Wan, but the latter gets saved by Ellaria Sand when she ignites some flammable stuff to create a patch of fire. Which allows Obi-Wan to escape, because Vader clearly can't do anything about that firepatch, even tho he created one himself only minutes before in the exact same spot and had no problems force pulling Obi-Wan into it, then effortlessly extinguishing the flames with the force. Indeed, nothing to be done.

Fun fact: I can tell you that this episode was filmed near Palm Springs/29 Palms, in southern California, because you can see Joshua trees here and there, and they are a rather localized plant. My dad retired in 29 Palms, so I know the area fairly well.

 

[Piscian]

Obi-Wan epi 3

So this is the cheap episode, taking place on a "mining planet", meaning it was filmed on location in a gravelpit and what I suspect are the hills behind the studio. I uppose the budget wasn't infinite and they had to save somewhere after Tatooine Tunisia again, and then Bladerunner planet. Other than that, it was kind of meh. It spends a fair amount of time putting Obi-Wan and Leia into peril, but we already know they'll make it through, so bye bye tension. The inquisitors trying to one-up and backstab each other is fun tho. Oh, and Vader is in it, proving how much of an evil baddie he is by force killing a bunch of innocent bystanders cuz he's such an evil baddie. At first I thought it was intended to draw out Obi-Wan, you know "come out or people will keep dying", but nah, he just kills for shits and giggles I guess. Ok, fine, Sith lord and all. And they already did the threaten the innocent thing with Owen in the first episode. Vader then fights Obi-Wan between piles of gravel, and wins and tortures Obi-Wan, but the latter gets saved by Ellaria Sand when she ignites some flammable stuff to create a patch of fire. Which allows Obi-Wan to escape, because Vader clearly can't do anything about that firepatch, even tho he created one himself only minutes before in the exact same spot and had no problems force pulling Obi-Wan into it, then effortlessly extinguishing the flames with the force. Indeed, nothing to be done.

I think when you put this in the context of this being like a send off to Obi-wan. Like idea that this will be our last journey with this character, it kind of adds a new level of disappointing, because this just feels like shit happening on screen with a star wars sticker on it. It feels like it wouldn't be out of place on Scifi inbetween highlander and Stargate. It doesn't just look kinda "meh" but the writing is just so subpar. This just screams "paycheck". I dont mind shows being goofy or rough around the edges. What I hate is when it feels like nobody really wants to be here.

I can complain all day about things I dont like about mandalorian, but I think back to that Bill Burr episode and his conversation with that imperial and I just felt like "fuck somebody showed up to work today.". I just haven't gotten that feeling from Obi-wan. Not once. I think Disney really needs to take a step back on Star Wars or theyre really gonna start losing people.

 

[BrawlMan]

Evangelion: Nothing Ever Ends (ANIME ABANDON PART 1)

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[XsjadoBlaydette]

The Boys S3/ep1-3 (Prime)
Still going strong. Love the terrible in-world ads and trailers. Superman, err, Homelander still fantastically frightening in every scene. Humour still dark and gooey. Was that a guy shouting about Soros conspiracies?? A worthy example of lefty humour not being "sanitised by wokeness" too. Invested enough to feel impatient about the wait for the rest of the episodes. I got nothing profound to say, what are you even expecting from me? I'm an insignificant anon forum dweller, get outta here with those lofty expectations!

 

[Chimpzy]

The Boys S3/ep1-3 (Prime)
Still going strong. Love the terrible in-world ads and trailers. Superman, err, Homelander still fantastically frightening in every scene. Humour still dark and gooey. Was that a guy shouting about Soros conspiracies?? A worthy example of lefty humour not being "sanitised by wokeness" too. Invested enough to feel impatient about the wait for the rest of the episodes. I got nothing profound to say, what are you even expecting from me? I'm an insignificant anon forum dweller, get outta here with those lofty expectations!

Poor Timothy tho

 

[Thaluikhain]

Bron/Broen

Danish-Swedish murder drama, which has been remade by other nations 6 times and counting.

Decent, but maybe a bit long at 10 parts. The British-French version (The Tunnel) was more polished, but too OtT.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Obi-Wan epi 3

So this is the cheap episode, taking place on a "mining planet", meaning it was filmed on location in a gravelpit and what I suspect are the hills behind the studio. I uppose the budget wasn't infinite and they had to save somewhere after Tatooine Tunisia again, and then Bladerunner planet. Other than that, it was kind of meh. It spends a fair amount of time putting Obi-Wan and Leia into peril, but we already know they'll make it through, so bye bye tension. The inquisitors trying to one-up and backstab each other is fun tho. Oh, and Vader is in it, proving how much of an evil baddie he is by force killing a bunch of innocent bystanders cuz he's such an evil baddie. At first I thought it was intended to draw out Obi-Wan, you know "come out or people will keep dying", but nah, he just kills for shits and giggles I guess. Ok, fine, Sith lord and all. And they already did the threaten the innocent thing with Owen in the first episode. Vader then fights Obi-Wan between piles of gravel, and wins and tortures Obi-Wan, but the latter gets saved by Ellaria Sand when she ignites some flammable stuff to create a patch of fire. Which allows Obi-Wan to escape, because Vader clearly can't do anything about that firepatch, even tho he created one himself only minutes before in the exact same spot and had no problems force pulling Obi-Wan into it, then effortlessly extinguishing the flames with the force. Indeed, nothing to be done.

I agree the planet, and the whole episode, felt cheap. I do think your initial understanding of what Vader was trying to do by murdering bystanders is correct though. It was pretty clearly done to draw Kenobi out, and it worked. What made you think it wasn't if I may ask?

OT: Anyway, my thoughts: what Chimpzy said. I think it's fair game to say that Vader was in this episode. There are a bunch of trailers out already. When they first announced this show, the interaction of Vader and Kenobi was what would make or break this show for me. Having them meet again after ROTS is annoying, it takes quite a lot away from the ending of that movie. But hey, I was willing to tolerate that if they just gave us actual quality Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen content. But this first interaction between Vader and Kenobi falls flat, hard. Cheap choreography, awful writing, and especially unsuitable soundtrack. For such a momentous occasion, it felt like little to no effort was given. A shame. The 1 minute of Vader in Rogue One and any single frame of Vader in Fallen Order is better than what they've given us here.

The worst thing is that small improvements to camerawork and writing, literally zero effort to implement, would have gone a long way. There were a billion ways the ending to this episode could have been better written with more or less the same budget.

I can complain all day about things I dont like about mandalorian, but I think back to that Bill Burr episode and his conversation with that imperial and I just felt like "fuck somebody showed up to work today.". I just haven't gotten that feeling from Obi-wan. Not once. I think Disney really needs to take a step back on Star Wars or theyre really gonna start losing people.

I think McGregor, the little girl playing Leia, and this new character are at least putting in good performances. McGregor in particular feels like a proper actor this time around, even though he doesn't quite manage to replicate his Obi-wan voice. But yeah. Everything else about the show has a feeling of being manufactured, something most Disney+ shows have problems with. Bar Mandalorian and maybe a little bit of Wandavision, no other Disney+ show has managed to feel like actual prestige television. With each show they come dangerously close to feeling like the CW.

 

[Piscian]

I agree the planet, and the whole episode, felt cheap. I do think your initial understanding of what Vader was trying to do by murdering bystanders is correct though. It was pretty clearly done to draw Kenobi out, and it worked. What made you think it wasn't if I may ask?

OT: Anyway, my thoughts: what Chimpzy said. I think it's fair game to say that Vader was in this episode. There are a bunch of trailers out already. When they first announced this show, the interaction of Vader and Kenobi was what would make or break this show for me. Having them meet again after ROTS is annoying, it takes quite a lot away from the ending of that movie. But hey, I was willing to tolerate that if they just gave us actual quality Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen content. But this first interaction between Vader and Kenobi falls flat, hard. Cheap choreography, awful writing, and especially unsuitable soundtrack. For such a momentous occasion, it felt like little to no effort was given. A shame. The 1 minute of Vader in Rogue One and any single frame of Vader in Fallen Order is better than what they've given us here.

The worst thing is that small improvements to camerawork and writing, literally zero effort to implement, would have gone a long way. There were a billion ways the ending to this episode could have been better written with more or less the same budget.


I think McGregor, the little girl playing Leia, and this new character are at least putting in good performances. McGregor in particular feels like a proper actor this time around, even though he doesn't quite manage to replicate his Obi-wan voice. But yeah. Everything else about the show has a feeling of being manufactured, something most Disney+ shows have problems with. Bar Mandalorian and maybe a little bit of Wandavision, no other Disney+ show has managed to feel like actual prestige television. With each show they come dangerously close to feeling like the CW.

*Goes to disagree, but cant remember what the new marvel show was*

 

[Bob_McMillan]

*Goes to disagree, but cant remember what the new marvel show was*

You're thinking of Moon Knight. Which I actually liked and do think bucks the trend of being mediocre assembly line Disney+ guff. Yet, there's still parts of the show that indicate the Disney can't quite maintain the needed level of quality from their shows. The PS3 cutscene CGI in particular stands out to me.

If you meant the new show as in yet to release, then that's She-Hulk. Which is enough said I think.