Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[Dwarvenhobble]

Then I'm sorry he got hurt and I hope he recovered.

I don't know, maybe he actually did think he had a weapon? Things become rather vague in a crowd of rowdy people. Again, I don't feel too sorry for these two who themselves knew exactly what they were they for; supporting a millionare comedian who got paid millions of dollars, and doing so to spite the people who were protesting.

Vito had a sign.
The guy in question grabbed the sign and pulled it apart then let go of the stick.
Vito then pulled back holding just the stick.
The guy then pointed and Vito and yelled that Vito had got a weapon.

There was no honest mistake in that move, he knew Vito had previously got a sign and was left with just the stick not a deliberate weapon he'd brought and suddenly pulled out.

You can also protest the speaker if you feel they shouldn't come to your college. And if you then get enough people on board then that's totally within your right. It's your school afterall - you're paying money (and likely getting into a fuckton of debt) to attend this school. And if you don't feel comfortable with someone coming to your place of learning to likely say some very instigating things, you're well within your right to protest it.

Except life isn't constant comfort and schools (beyond high school) aren't meant to be about constant comfort. I mean it's meant to be your first venture into the real world so being exposed to new ideas and new people with those ideas is part of it. Where is the huge issue in just not showing up to the persons talk and letting those who want to do so.

Hell some such protest have turned into riots before because that's a way to stop the talk by those determined enough by making it seem like there is a threat on campus.

Were did I say that? Also, who out there says that other than the usual ones who think porn and videogames turn you to a life of crime? Calling out problems in media is not saying the media itself is bad, just that the issues are there.

Except the likes of Anita who attribute media as the cause of rape and violence. Guess the Roman's had an issue with their scroll media tales that was the cause of their problems eh?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Lol ok. I'm sure the bit where you liken your political opponents to a locust horde reeeaaaally makes a big difference to the overall substance.

Well yes, sorry but gatekeeping in the olden times was to keep the bad actors out. A certain group have been shown time and time again to be full of bad actors. Sorry if I'm choosing to shut the gate rather than let the same cycle of nonsense and trouble begin again.

Also important context I also said It's a shame for cast and director and those who worked on the film and I'd want it to come out. But I'm also equally happy for it to burn in this case due to bullshit political grandstanding going on and honestly entitled toxic individuals who seem to believe they're owed everyone else to do the work for them. #Releasethesnydercut people are not responsible and shouldn't be responsible for also campaigning to save Batgirl. Let he people who want Batgirl, many of whom have spend months of time attacking and insulting #releasethesnydercut people before Batgirl was canned, let them start their own campaign and show support and desire for the film to come out. But they won't because they don't care about the film so much as what it stands for and the opportunistic chance to further attack and denigrate people who wanted the Snydercut.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

If they could come up with a trans joke that wasn't 40 years old, that'd be great

 

[Trunkage]

And yet the people yelling on twitter normally don't give a shit about Legends of Tomorrow. There's not regular screeching about it. There's not regular articles celebrating it. It just keeps ticking over.

Batgirl may or may not be woke (again the film hasn't come out and who knows it if ever will). The issue is to turn the argument used against the #Releasethesnydercut people round, it's about the toxic entitled audience it seems to have been garnering before release and how DC shouldn't give in to such people because it shouldn't want such people as it's audience as it will only serve to drive off everyone else...........

Ah, making it up again I see.

You got your Synder cut. Stop taking everything out on people.

DC gave into toxic entitled audience by releasing the Synder cut and DH just undermined his own point. If they can do that for you, they can do it for anyone.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Except Chappelle is not one to both-sides this issue, and saying he's team terf is REALLY not making this supposed case. He's team terf and implied trans women are lesser for not being able to give birth. Whether or not he himself is transphobic, those are transphobic statements.

Then I'm sorry he got hurt and I hope he recovered.

I don't know, maybe he actually did think he had a weapon? Things become rather vague in a crowd of rowdy people. Again, I don't feel too sorry for these two who themselves knew exactly what they were they for; supporting a millionare comedian who got paid millions of dollars, and doing so to spite the people who were protesting.

You can also protest the speaker if you feel they shouldn't come to your college. And if you then get enough people on board then that's totally within your right. It's your school afterall - you're paying money (and likely getting into a fuckton of debt) to attend this school. And if you don't feel comfortable with someone coming to your place of learning to likely say some very instigating things, you're well within your right to protest it.

So you're saying you know what trans people should find insulting and what it is to live with these insults better then they do? I hope that's not the case, because that would be really silly.



Trans medical care for one, probably the biggest one.

Were did I say that? Also, who out there says that other than the usual ones who think porn and videogames turn you to a life of crime? Calling out problems in media is not saying the media itself is bad, just that the issues are there.

Why is thinking trans women and women are different such a big deal? They are different. That doesn't mean you're prejudice against trans women.

What Dwarven said basically. If I was a boss at Netflix, I would've fired that guy instantly.

Nothing wrong with protesting, it's demanding people you don't like being silenced. Let the natural order of how things become "cancelled" happen. Colleges being "safe spaces" is fucking bullshit.

They can complain and if enough people agree, then that comedian will not draw an audience. That's the natural order of things. Does it look like Dave Chappelle and Ricky Gervais aren't drawing an audience?

What medical rights don't they have?

They are not just calling out problems, they are saying words are directly causing violence, which they are not when the Netflix protesters themselves directly caused violence. They are also saying something is so bad others shouldn't watch it.

Yes.

Most people are prejudiced against trans people. You can be prejudiced against trans people and not believe you are. You can be prejudiced against trans people and still have trans friends or qualify your prejudiced beliefs by claiming they don't apply to all trans people. Being prejudiced is about the normative assumptions by which you judge people.

Chappelle and Gervais do not know anything about or have any genuine insight into the people they're joking at the expense of, and yet they feel entitled to stand up in public and pretend otherwise. They're sad, ageing, out-of-touch boomer comics who have nothing truly interesting to say about the world any more but know there's an audience of people just as sad and out of touch as them who will laugh through bared teeth if you talk about the kids today and their new fangled genders.

That is bigotry, and believing that trans people are so interchangable that you can fix it all with an anecdote about the fact you knew a trans person just makes it worse.

You're making this way more complicated than it is. Most people treat others as just people like anyone else they interact with. They don't have to have some genuine insight into the group or anything. Because if that's the case, everyone is prejudice against basically everyone because you have no genuine insight into anyone besides your close family and friends. And you'll never stop prejudice because it's impossible.

 

[Trunkage]

Cracks Knuckles.

Oh you really want to know?

(Paraphrased) Everyone male who plays video games can be defined as one of main guys in the Big Bang Theory.

For starters, that's what Chuck Lorre thinks as well. That's why he did those archetypes in that show. Lefties pointed this out years ago that Lorre was using masculinity and cast it in a bad light. (Maybe the right term is geek masculinity, or whatever term you want to use here.) The Big Bang Theory is pretty damaging to geek culture and masculinity. But then the same things were said about Queer as Folk

It's called Capitalism. It abuses the term masculinity as well femineity. You can go back to 2013 on this very forum. You can find posts about me speaking about Sarkesian's very first video and I explicitly disagree with her on media not damaging males. I can go through those points if you like. I don't know what the point would be

This is also what Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro does. Fits everyone in an archetype/box. It's very specifically why I don't like all three of them. They do the exact same thing

And before I get people saying that's a lie, here you go


The clips is from a longer video about "File sharing culture" which I can't actually link to here without breaking the rules because (1) nudity in the video and (2) would count as promoting piracy probably, but I'm sure people will have no trouble finding the actual video.

Based on internet stuff.

Rey is one of the best most complex female characters ever put to film.

She Hulk is one of the first female superheroes to ever have a show especially in the MCU

‘She-Hulk’ Director Kat Coiro Hopes Disney Plus Series Makes It “Normal To Have Female Superheroes”, Forgets Series Own Advertising Treats Jennifer Walters' Gender As A Novelty

She-Hulk director Kat Coiro hopes that the series will help normalize female superheroes, even though the series markets based on gender.

boundingintocomics.com

Bayonetta is a bad female lead character with no real personality


Should I post more?

You know, I just watched the original Star Wars last weekend. Holy shit, its actually really bad character wise. Rey IS at least as complex than Luke and less of a Mary Sue. My wife, who doesn't remember much of Star Wars, kept shouting,' How the fuck does Luke know how to fly one of these things, let alone not be shot down in seconds by an expert pilot?" 'He's had an hour of training and he can now use the force to shoot down a Death Star?' 'There are 20 guys there (stormtroopers), he shoots 6 and doesn't get hit? When has he even held a guy?' 'He SHOT that little panel from that distance?"

But anyway. These sure are Anita's opinions. She is allowed to have them. She also doesn't speak for all Feminist. Or hardly any Feminist. I cant imagine saying that Rey is the most complex person in film, but she is more complex than what the people like Quartering pretends. I would say her take on Bayonetta is about as ridiculous as Thor Skywalkers was on Rey or Rose

Like, is this trying to prove something. You're telling me what Sarkesian likes. That's not what I asked and its not even really related

The only thing that was separate from Anita was the She Hulk article, I'm pretty sure the director is not invited to marketing meetings. She has her own opinions on what she wants, which is separate from Disney and Marvel. Pretending that she 'forgot the marketing' is just silliness. She didn't get to choose it and she has her own opinions. I do agree with the director that Marvel has been real chicken shit over not doing many female lead superhero movies

 

[Trunkage]

Come on, I know you're better than to push some silly sophistry like this. I know you must actually understand he means people at the company and by not doing anything the company itself also is responsible in part too.

I'd call that an assumption, but it's a likely one. But that doesn't mean the assumption is correct.

Like, for starters, how did an employee or whatever get access to his kids? My colleagues aren't near my kids by themselves at any time. And not because I distrust them, it's just natural. My colleagues aren't coming to my house. It's very separate worlds. Is there some sort of work culture thing where they have family and office parties?

No, but also kind of surprised you're using bounding into comics as a source considering their history.........

I just care if they said something true. I read Fox News too, their normal news articles are generally fine with a bit of bias (as opposed to pundits on Fox TV). I would also like confirmation. Bounding are not very kind in their representation of Ben and pretty much make him out as crazy. It sounds like they think he is probably making the whole situation up. But, I'm not very interested in that, I'm just trying to find out enough info

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

They can complain and if enough people agree, then that comedian will not draw an audience. That's the natural order of things. Does it look like Dave Chappelle and Ricky Gervais aren't drawing an audience?

Smash cut to scads of whiny boomer comics mad that people don't have a sense of humor anymore. It *should* go both ways

Dear Dave Chappelle, transgender comedians can take a joke, but why are yours so unfunny? | Dahlia Belle

A regressive Netflix special only serves as further reminder that the once-groundbreaking star has lost his way (and his sense of humor)

www.theguardian.com

What medical rights don't they have?

Cis people have much greater access to gender affirming care, to the point that some doctors recommend their trans patients lie about *why* they want certain procedures because there's far less scrutiny. Like, if a cis person wants bold reduction surgery, basically nobody cares, even if it's a kid. If a trans person wants the same surgery, well...
Cos hormones are almost otc, trans hormones have pharmacists claiming religious exemptions to not provide, etc

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Ah, making it up again I see.

Well I already showed Bob taking a swing at Snydercut fans and and if you're arguing there's constant talk and articles about Legends of Tomorrow equal to Batwoman then I'd ask you to show some of it otherwise you're asking for proof of a negative when lack of counter evidence is the proof of the negative.

You got your Synder cut. Stop taking everything out on people.

I'll stop swinging when they do that simple. Not my fight to get Batgirl released. I and others were very clearly told by people we weren't wanted in the fandom or our "Toxic entitlement" so yeh people are not pushing for Batgirl but sitting on the sidelines watching things burn and are now being yelled at to do something by people who apparently can't or won't do it themselves. To use a phrase some woke people have used on me in the past "they've no got enough of a balance of social currency to make it worth it"

DC gave into toxic entitled audience by releasing the Synder cut and DH just undermined his own point. If they can do that for you, they can do it for anyone.

Then by all means make them do it? Why are Bob and others on twitter yelling at #ReleasetheSnydercut people, I thought we we're like 10 people and 5,000 bot accounts or something sure with the vast number of people who want Batgirl released you'd totally be able to organise and make it happen right?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

You know, I just watched the original Star Wars last weekend. Holy shit, its actually really bad character wise. Rey IS at least as complex than Luke and less of a Mary Sue. My wife, who doesn't remember much of Star Wars, kept shouting,' How the fuck does Luke know how to fly one of these things, let alone not be shot down in seconds by an expert pilot?" 'He's had an hour of training and he can now use the force to shoot down a Death Star?' 'There are 20 guys there (stormtroopers), he shoots 6 and doesn't get hit? When has he even held a guy?' 'He SHOT that little panel from that distance?"

Womp rats & the apparent gap is like 1 month training not 1 week but some of those issues can be put down to you know the absolute mess the first Star Wars film was such that it was only salvaged in editing pretty much. Also Luke loses his parents and loses his mentor and the rescue plan he's involved in goes wrong pretty quick.

But anyway. These sure are Anita's opinions. She is allowed to have them. She also doesn't speak for all Feminist. Or hardly any Feminist. I cant imagine saying that Rey is the most complex person in film, but she is more complex than what the people like Quartering pretends. I would say her take on Bayonetta is about as ridiculous as Thor Skywalkers was on Rey or Rose

Like it or not Anita's views (even if she herself) have been unfortunately adopted by much of mainstream feminism these days.

Like, is this trying to prove something. You're telling me what Sarkesian likes. That's not what I asked and its not even really related

The only thing that was separate from Anita was the She Hulk article, I'm pretty sure the director is not invited to marketing meetings. She has her own opinions on what she wants, which is separate from Disney and Marvel. Pretending that she 'forgot the marketing' is just silliness. She didn't get to choose it and she has her own opinions. I do agree with the director that Marvel has been real chicken shit over not doing many female lead superhero movies

It's not just she forgot the marketing.

She entirely forget the MCU shows on Disney Plus.

Wanda Vision = Female lead Superhero show on Disney Plus
Hawkeye = Arguably the co-lead is a female superhero
Jessica Jones = Female Superhero
Ms Marvel = Female Superhero show.

Earlier this year Black Widow came out specifically on Streaming at the same time as in cinemas.

At what point is the MCU not having female superheroes be present and normalised now?

And that's before bringing up
WonderWoman
Birds of Prey
Stargirl
Batwoman
Supergirl
Harley Quinn's animated show

 

[Casual Shinji]

Why is thinking trans women and women are different such a big deal? They are different. That doesn't mean you're prejudice against trans women.

It is when you frame it as 'you can't give birth, therefor you're not a woman'. Trans women know they can't give birth, so do a lot of cis-women actually.

Nothing wrong with protesting, it's demanding people you don't like being silenced. Let the natural order of how things become "cancelled" happen. Colleges being "safe spaces" is fucking bullshit.

Except it's not silencing people, it's demanding they don't show up at a college. Right to free speech is not a right to platform that free speech.

They can complain and if enough people agree, then that comedian will not draw an audience. That's the natural order of things. Does it look like Dave Chappelle and Ricky Gervais aren't drawing an audience?

I never said anything to the contrary. Except that would still be labelled as silencing or "cancel culture".

They are not just calling out problems, they are saying words are directly causing violence, which they are not when the Netflix protesters themselves directly caused violence. They are also saying something is so bad others shouldn't watch it.

"They are not calling out problems, they are saying words are directly causing violence" How is that not calling out a problem? Also, they're not saying that, they're saying it only adds to the atmosphere of hostility. 10 people saying something bigoted won't have any real impact, 100 people neither, but when thousands of people start saying it it will. Add to that a famous comedian saying it on stage when America is very busy making life harder already for those being discriminated against, and yes, that's something to be worried about, especially when you fall within that group.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

 

[Casual Shinji]

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Is CNN now the Forward News Network?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

I'd call that an assumption, but it's a likely one. But that doesn't mean the assumption is correct.

Like, for starters, how did an employee or whatever get access to his kids? My colleagues aren't near my kids by themselves at any time. And not because I distrust them, it's just natural. My colleagues aren't coming to my house. It's very separate worlds. Is there some sort of work culture thing where they have family and office parties?

I just care if they said something true. I read Fox News too, their normal news articles are generally fine with a bit of bias (as opposed to pundits on Fox TV). I would also like confirmation. Bounding are not very kind in their representation of Ben and pretty much make him out as crazy. It sounds like they think he is probably making the whole situation up. But, I'm not very interested in that, I'm just trying to find out enough info

In term of how?

Who knows maybe it's one of those offices with a bring your kids to work day thing or some work family BBQ events or other such stuff like that?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Except it's not silencing people, it's demanding they don't show up at a college. Right to free speech is not a right to platform that free speech.

Except it's normally agreed everyone gets a turn at the platform and generally by the time a speaker has been invited the group has had to submit a proposal for them to come and have it approved by the student council or has had to fun the visit themselves and pay for the use of the university's facilities as many places allow. So either it's already been voted on by the supposed democracy the students elected to represent them or it's a group operating as private individuals renting the use of university facilities.

"They are not calling out problems, they are saying words are directly causing violence" How is that not calling out a problem? Also, they're not saying that, they're saying it only adds to the atmosphere of hostility. 10 people saying something bigoted won't have any real impact, 100 people neither, but when thousands of people start saying it it will. Add to that a famous comedian saying it on stage when America is very busy making life harder already for those being discriminated against, and yes, that's something to be worried about, especially when you fall within that group.

Because it's being used as justification for physically violent response under the guise of claiming the words were themselves violence thus they were only acting in self defence.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Except it's normally agreed everyone gets a turn at the platform

By who? And frankly, most of the people who get protested against speaking at a college already have a decent platform, otherwise those protesting wouldn't even know to protest against them. If a speaker is famous enough for people to realize who they are and want to protest against their presence at their school, then they already have a platform to speak on. Also, youtube and twitter exist.

and generally by the time a speaker has been invited the group has had to submit a proposal for them to come and have it approved by the student council or has had to fun the visit themselves and pay for the use of the university's facilities as many places allow. So either it's already been voted on by the supposed democracy the students elected to represent them or it's a group operating as private individuals renting the use of university facilities.

So?

Because it's being used as justification for physically violent response under the guise of claiming the words were themselves violence thus they were only acting in self defence.

No it isn't. If Vito and whoever hadn't shown up nothing would've turned violent. This is not me laying the blame on them, I'm saying those protesting weren't out to beat someone up - they weren't already throwing bottles and turning over cars or whatever, they were just yelling slogans and holding up signs. Things got physical in that one moment - the protesters weren't rabid dogs before this instance and they weren't after, it was just that one moment.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Smash cut to scads of whiny boomer comics mad that people don't have a sense of humor anymore. It *should* go both ways

Dear Dave Chappelle, transgender comedians can take a joke, but why are yours so unfunny? | Dahlia Belle

A regressive Netflix special only serves as further reminder that the once-groundbreaking star has lost his way (and his sense of humor)

www.theguardian.com

Cis people have much greater access to gender affirming care, to the point that some doctors recommend their trans patients lie about *why* they want certain procedures because there's far less scrutiny. Like, if a cis person wants bold reduction surgery, basically nobody cares, even if it's a kid. If a trans person wants the same surgery, well...
Cos hormones are almost otc, trans hormones have pharmacists claiming religious exemptions to not provide, etc

What are you even going on about? That comic is just salty that people like Dave Chappelle. Such an amazing take that someone's jokes aren't funny... Jokes are subjective, there's no way to say they aren't funny. It's like me trying to prove Star Wars sucks by saying it would be good if they just didn't make shit movies.

Bold reduction surgery? Huh?

It is when you frame it as 'you can't give birth, therefor you're not a woman'. Trans women know they can't give birth, so do a lot of cis-women actually.

Except it's not silencing people, it's demanding they don't show up at a college. Right to free speech is not a right to platform that free speech.

I never said anything to the contrary. Except that would still be labelled as silencing or "cancel culture".

"They are not calling out problems, they are saying words are directly causing violence" How is that not calling out a problem? Also, they're not saying that, they're saying it only adds to the atmosphere of hostility. 10 people saying something bigoted won't have any real impact, 100 people neither, but when thousands of people start saying it it will. Add to that a famous comedian saying it on stage when America is very busy making life harder already for those being discriminated against, and yes, that's something to be worried about, especially when you fall within that group.

And, you're going to treat someone differently because they can't give birth? Outside of someone dating and wanting biological kids, that would like never come up as some reason you treat someone negatively.

And it's not YOUR college, not YOUR platform. You don't get to demand someone you don't like doesn't speak there. What if your say ex that you hate is speaking at your college, do you get to demand they don't speak?

People just not wanting to consume certain content is "cancel culture"?

From Netflix protesters:
“We will be addressing the list of firm asks ... then we’ll talk about how we plan to execute that,” said rally organizer Ashlee Marie Preston. “The conversation that we’re having today, more than anything, is about the emergence of what I’m calling a ‘hate economy,’ and it is the capitalization of harm and violence that exists online and onscreen ... and the ways in which algorithmic science is being manipulated to take advantage of those moments and to profit from it.”

GLAAD, the LGBTQ advocacy organization and media watchdog group, said "anti-LGBTQ content" violates Netflix's policy to reject programs that incite hate or violence.

"Netflix needs to do a better job of listening. We've seen the effects of attacks on marginalized communities, most recently with the AAPI community," Paris said, referring to Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. "When we don't stand up for marginalized communities, violence goes unchecked."

In a statement to Deadline, NBJC’s executive director David Johns called for Netflix to remove the show from the platform. “With 2021 on track to be the deadliest year on record for transgender people in the United States — the majority of whom are Black transgender people — Netflix should know better. Perpetuating transphobia perpetuates violence,” he said.

Soloway said Chappelle’s decision to share “his outrage as comedic humiliation in front of thousands of people, and then broadcasting it to hundreds of millions of people is infinitely amplified gender violence.”

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

What are you even going on about? That comic is just salty that people like Dave Chappelle. Such an amazing take that someone's jokes aren't funny... Jokes are subjective, there's no way to say they aren't funny. It's like me trying to prove Star Wars sucks by saying it would be good if they just didn't make shit movies.

Of, so you just missed all the whining about how kids these days just can't take a joke from comics bombing at colleges. The onus always seems to be on others to either laugh or shut up, lest a comedian get his feelings hurt

Bold reduction surgery? Huh?

Breast. Autocorrect did a thing, apparently

 

[Casual Shinji]

And, you're going to treat someone differently because they can't give birth? Outside of someone dating and wanting biological kids, that would like never come up as some reason you treat someone negatively.

Context, my dude. If someone is talking about transgender people, specifically trans women, say they're team terf, and then brings up pregnancy to prove the hardline between men and women ("Everyone in this room came onto this Earth from between the legs of a woman.") then they are citing a difference, and saying trans women are lesser women, or not be viewed as women. No trans women ever said they could get pregnant, so why even bring it up unless you're trying for a gotcha.

By the way, Chappelle conveniently forgot C-sections exist for that bit.

And it's not YOUR college, not YOUR platform. You don't get to demand someone you don't like doesn't speak there.

No, but you do get to protest. And if this protest gains followers and the school board decides to turn the speaker away as a result, then I don't really understand your issue with this. The speaker is there for the students and if the students vehemently object then that is that.

What if your say ex that you hate is speaking at your college, do you get to demand they don't speak?

Then that would be a really, really hard sell, and I doubt you'd find any real world examples of this actually happening.

People just not wanting to consume certain content is "cancel culture"?

By the metric through which "cancel culture" gets applied, which is typically 'when I say so', yes. "Cancel culture" is a meaningless term.

From Netflix protesters:
“We will be addressing the list of firm asks ... then we’ll talk about how we plan to execute that,” said rally organizer Ashlee Marie Preston. “The conversation that we’re having today, more than anything, is about the emergence of what I’m calling a ‘hate economy,’ and it is the capitalization of harm and violence that exists online and onscreen ... and the ways in which algorithmic science is being manipulated to take advantage of those moments and to profit from it.”

GLAAD, the LGBTQ advocacy organization and media watchdog group, said "anti-LGBTQ content" violates Netflix's policy to reject programs that incite hate or violence.

"Netflix needs to do a better job of listening. We've seen the effects of attacks on marginalized communities, most recently with the AAPI community," Paris said, referring to Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. "When we don't stand up for marginalized communities, violence goes unchecked."

In a statement to Deadline, NBJC’s executive director David Johns called for Netflix to remove the show from the platform. “With 2021 on track to be the deadliest year on record for transgender people in the United States — the majority of whom are Black transgender people — Netflix should know better. Perpetuating transphobia perpetuates violence,” he said.

Soloway said Chappelle’s decision to share “his outrage as comedic humiliation in front of thousands of people, and then broadcasting it to hundreds of millions of people is infinitely amplified gender violence.”

I don't know what that quote is supposed to do other than me agreeing with pretty much all of it.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

By who? And frankly, most of the people who get protested against speaking at a college already have a decent platform, otherwise those protesting wouldn't even know to protest against them. If a speaker is famous enough for people to realize who they are and want to protest against their presence at their school, then they already have a platform to speak on. Also, youtube and twitter exist.

Pretty easy to get kicked off twitter these days all you had to do at one point was tweet the translation of the Game of Thrones phrase Valar Morghulis. Also best not start on Youtube's antics.

It's also funny that when asked some of the protestors don't even know what they're protesting against coming out with outlandish claims about the people they are protesting and things they've never actually said.

Many schools are also publicly funded and should not be safe spaces but public ones such that said speakers can be booked to speak.

So?

No it isn't. If Vito and whoever hadn't shown up nothing would've turned violent. This is not me laying the blame on them, I'm saying those protesting weren't out to beat someone up - they weren't already throwing bottles and turning over cars or whatever, they were just yelling slogans and holding up signs. Things got physical in that one moment - the protesters weren't rabid dogs before this instance and they weren't after, it was just that one moment.

The protestors were angry and turned violent. Vito and his friend just served as a nice proxy for Dave Chapelle at the time.

Also it was multiple moments as there was the initial destruction of Vito's sign and then the attack on his friend separately. It's also not the only such instance of similar violence in reaction to another's free speech. Just as they have every right to protest against Netflix Vito & Co had every right to protest for Dave Chapelle being funny