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Just out of curiosity, I decided to see if there's a list of comic book movie releases compiled somewhere. There is, but it's only up to date to 2016, sadly. Still, I decided to look at the last 50 movies on that list.

Of the 50 movies, 12 of them are team-based comic book movies where a female is part of the team. The other 38 have a male as their lead character, with females in major but still supporting roles. None of them are truly female-led.

The 50 before that? 4 of them are female-led. Another 8 are ensemble pieces where a female character is an equal member of the group (or duo, in the case of V for Vendetta), leaving 38, again, male-led with a female in a supporting role. So, 4% of the last 100 comic book movies have been female led. Does that sound common or uncommon to you?

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Oh, wow. You were able to name 2 whole movies with female superheroes before the "modern era". That totally offsets the 10 superhero movies I literally just thought of instantly from the same timespan.
The start of the modern era in my country is conventionally dated as 1485 AD. I'd be shocked if there were any superhero films before then.
 

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ISIS? Wonderwoman who had a TV show for a while. Supergirl got a film Elektra. And this is before the modern era lol. They're really not uncommon not merely in comics but in wider media lol
That is not increasing the list in a dramatic way. Just because female lead superhero movies exist, does not make them common. Eg. Have a look at the MCU phase 5 movie slate

As I said, there female superheroes were rare before a couple of years ago. Thanks for proving this point with how little amount of movies you could think of
 

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Hey, use the triple parentheses next time if you want to be edgy
That wasn't edgy, it was two consecutive appropriate usages of quotations. Medicine is about the treatment of diseases and disorders, which some people might dispute you are actually talking about. Science is empirical, which I would definitely dispute isn't actually what you're talking about.
 

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That wasn't edgy, it was two consecutive appropriate usages of quotations. Medicine is about the treatment of diseases and disorders, which some people might dispute you are actually talking about. Science is empirical, which I would definitely dispute isn't actually what you're talking about.
Medicine is undoubtedly scientific. Treatments are used because data shows that they are likely to work - what do you think a clinical trial is about? They are not certain to work, but even still scientific processes apply. A patient given a treatment is almost like a minature one-person experiment. Doesn't do the job? Okay, go to the next treatment that the evidence base suggests most like to work, and so on.

"Science is empirical" is a common misconception. Some of it is, and some of it is not. Theoretical physics, as one can understand from the name, is not necessarily based in empirical obervation: you won't get far arguing it's not science. Empiricism is the basic philosophy behind experimental science, but there's an awful lot else going on in science as well.

One does not need to consider being trans a disorder. We merely need to consider that the effects of being forced to live as a gender different from how one feels is sufficiently damaging to a person's wellbeing, and that makes it a health concern.
 

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I'm sorry to keep bringing up neurology, but do you seriously believe that the part of the brain that determines how we perceive ourselves is always going to be perfect? Slight changes in our brain can cause all kinds of changes in behaviour, turning regular people into savants or turning the greatest of minds into common fools. Don't you consider it possible that someone might be born with a brain that says male but a body that says female?

And if that is the case I'd like for you to consider which is the easier solution to the brain/body disconnect. Is it to either A) Rewire the most complex organ known to man or to B) Complete some fairly simple surgical procedures?
If a doctor says it's necessary, how hard is that for you to understand?

You remembered to not forget Steel, but not Blankman?! How dare you!

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And this is the part where your political ideology is trumping the vast majority of medical science
Since when does medical science say you can have elective surgeries until you're happy? Also, the people that do have the money for that that do get all the surgery they want have significant mental issues.
 

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Since when does medical science say you can have elective surgeries until you're happy? Also, the people that do have the money for that that do get all the surgery they want have significant mental issues.
I know you have a fraught and tenuous alliance with medical expertise, but try actually asking the relevant doctors and not, like, Florida's Christian Gospel Scientists
 

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Everyone has stuff they don't like about their body, do we all get to have elective surgery until we're satisfied?
Indulging this stupid hypothetical for a moment.

Why not?

What is actually wrong with people having elective surgery if it will demonstrably make them happier or improve their quality of life?
 

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In my opinion, there is a current housing crisis, and while I don't blame the left for it(I blame Covid), I mostly think the left's ideas in rent control, the forced building of non-luxury housing, and regulation of public lands to be a problem.

If you rent control, there will be more AirBnbs, and fewer rented buildings depending on where you live. We don't live in a world based on socialism or modern progressivism, we aren't do-gooders in Sweden we are the US.

I want more luxury housing for sale because the more luxury houses there are, the fewer rich people are going to buy or rent a home or apartment that is smaller than I or you, or any other person wants. I do think that there should be a limit on how many homes you own like 1 to 2 is fine but in places like SoCal you cannot just force wealthy people to not live there when the tech jobs there are so high paying. They will live in a one-bedroom apartment if needed because the jobs there are so desirable. I also don't think financial services firms should buy homes to rent unless they build them themselves.

Also, we shouldn't talk about protecting more land, but we should advocate for creating more numerous pine forests so that we can use them to build houses.

Every time I bring this up, everyone here gets up in arms about landlords, I don't care; build more homes, and add more apartments to be rented. The US still has lots of land as does the UK. If the price of homes increases despite building more homes it just means demand is high, and you either need to reduce the demand somehow or increase supply I prefer both as a policymaker.

The laws of supply and demand are essentially ingrained in human nature. If you had a PS5, and that was the only PS5 in the world would it be worth more than 200 million of them existing? Scarcity induces value, and while most of the long-term blame goes to selfish, not in my backyard boomers who Shrek at building apartments near their homes, and I hate homes as a financial way to get rich, I am not just going to advocate for one side's political policies just because it's in vogue.
 
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If you rent control, there will be more AirBnbs, and fewer rented buildings depending on where you live. We don't live in a world based on socialism or modern progressivism, we aren't do-gooders in Sweden we are the US.
If you think landlords would en masse turn to AirBNBs, which represent a far far less stable source of income, if they were stopped charging inordinately high unaffordable rents, then you're living in the clouds.

But even if this were a problem.... that's an argument for regulating AirBNBs, not backing away from rent controls.

The fact of the matter is that landlords rake in hundreds of thousands a year, for which they need to do scarcely any work whatsoever. Their profit margins are obscene, whilst renters are barely able to afford a place to live. Landlords can fucking cope with making slightly less extravagant piles of money. They're not going to just abandon the business model because their profit margins drop whilst still staying extremely healthy.
 

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That is not increasing the list in a dramatic way. Just because female lead superhero movies exist, does not make them common. Eg. Have a look at the MCU phase 5 movie slate

As I said, there female superheroes were rare before a couple of years ago. Thanks for proving this point with how little amount of movies you could think of
How common do they have to be to be considered common?

Until the rebooted MCU they were close to a common as male Superhero films.

This seems less about reality and more another of the stupid "Balancing the scales" arguments.
 

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Just out of curiosity, I decided to see if there's a list of comic book movie releases compiled somewhere. There is, but it's only up to date to 2016, sadly. Still, I decided to look at the last 50 movies on that list.

Of the 50 movies, 12 of them are team-based comic book movies where a female is part of the team. The other 38 have a male as their lead character, with females in major but still supporting roles. None of them are truly female-led.

The 50 before that? 4 of them are female-led. Another 8 are ensemble pieces where a female character is an equal member of the group (or duo, in the case of V for Vendetta), leaving 38, again, male-led with a female in a supporting role. So, 4% of the last 100 comic book movies have been female led. Does that sound common or uncommon to you?

My source, by the way.

Oh come on you can't count Kingsman or 300 as superhero films.

Comic book films yes, Superhero films no.

Nor:
Sin City
2 Guns
MIB
Cowboys and Aliens
Wanted
30 Days of Night
AVP
Road to Perdition
Monkeybone
From Hell
Richie Rich
Timecop
Tales of the Black Freighter
Fritz the Cat


I'll give you Jonah Hex but only on the technicality he's cannon in the DCU
 

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If you think landlords would en masse turn to AirBNBs, which represent a far far less stable source of income, if they were stopped charging inordinately high unaffordable rents, then you're living in the clouds.

But even if this were a problem.... that's an argument for regulating AirBNBs, not backing away from rent controls.

The fact of the matter is that landlords rake in hundreds of thousands a year, for which they need to do scarcely any work whatsoever. Their profit margins are obscene, whilst renters are barely able to afford a place to live. Landlords can fucking cope with making slightly less extravagant piles of money. They're not going to just abandon the business model because their profit margins drop whilst still staying extremely healthy.
Less stable but also by design it's fine being that.

"Oh my renters are capped at paying me £750 a month? Well I'll do an Air Bnb at £75 a night (still creeping in cheaper than a number of hotels) and then I only need 10 nights a month booked, maybe 11 to cover utility bills from energy the renters use"

You think it sounds mad but it's hugely profitable, how profitable? I had a client at work recently who was a full time AirBnB operator as in he literally made so much doing it for him he could afford to not only pay for the properties off it but also his own families house and cost of living.
 

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How common do they have to be to be considered common?

Until the rebooted MCU they were close to a common as male Superhero films.

This seems less about reality and more another of the stupid "Balancing the scales" arguments.
Oh come on, the claim that there was close to 50/50 male and female superheroes pre-2008 is rediculous.

I checked the list of DC and Marvel films prior to that year, the only female-led installments I could find were Supergirl, Catwoman, and Elektra.

How one feels about this is up to them, but it's factually wrong to say there was a 50/50 split.
 

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If you think landlords would en masse turn to AirBNBs, which represent a far far less stable source of income, if they were stopped charging inordinately high unaffordable rents, then you're living in the clouds.

But even if this were a problem.... that's an argument for regulating AirBNBs, not backing away from rent controls.

The fact of the matter is that landlords rake in hundreds of thousands a year, for which they need to do scarcely any work whatsoever. Their profit margins are obscene, whilst renters are barely able to afford a place to live. Landlords can fucking cope with making slightly less extravagant piles of money. They're not going to just abandon the business model because their profit margins drop whilst still staying extremely healthy.
if you set a price floor above the equilibrium price there will be less of it, and less new people like refugees and immigrants and newcomers will be able to have a chance to buy/rent it. Rent control didn’t work in Berlin Germany nor did it work in Cambridge Massachusetts.There is no free lunch. What we need to do is build more housing across the board but progressives only look at building more rent controlled apartments, and lower income housing. Unless we make the entire housing sector a lottery system which good luck doing that without a revolt, we operate in our economy based on who has the highest reservation price and that happens to be high earners.