... Oh man, that's the dumbest thing you've said in this thread and this thread is like your greatest hits.You know, when you can see it coming this easily, maybe you should start thinking "hmmm, there's something to that, isn't there?"
... Oh man, that's the dumbest thing you've said in this thread and this thread is like your greatest hits.You know, when you can see it coming this easily, maybe you should start thinking "hmmm, there's something to that, isn't there?"
That's a nice line, but not quite. Science makes predictions, and the reliable ones become accepted as descriptions of the universe. The elements they're describing don't gain validity.To a certain extent, you just described science.
I'll one up you.To a certain extent, you just described science.
I'll take one prominent Republican not named Donald Trump tying laws into totally unrelated bills.
So, a minority of Republicans pushed to have things combined, which Republican leadership was actively resistant to, even though the things they wanted to tie together were totally related (addressing ACA funding in the funding bill makes significantly more sense than addressing the codification of same-sex marriage in the funding bill). You're proving my point.Pressed From His Right, Speaker Yields on a Budget Showdown (Published 2013)
Speaker John A. Boehner surrendered to demands that he tie money to keep the government open after Sept. 30 to stripping President Obama’s health care law of any financing.www.nytimes.com
You might remember under Obama that the republican caucus, at least 80 republicans, shrugged off Boehner to force a bill to strip funding from Obamacare to be attached to paying our debts and paying government workers.
Does your back hurt from moving that goalpost? Or do your feet hurt from the tap dancing you're doing?So, a minority of Republicans pushed to have things combined, which Republican leadership was actively resistant to, even though the things they wanted to tie together were totally related (addressing ACA funding in the funding bill makes significantly more sense than addressing the codification of same-sex marriage in the funding bill). You're proving my point.
It's a wonder he can manage to pat himself on it so often.Does your back hurt from moving that goalpost?
So, a minority of Republicans pushed to have things combined, which Republican leadership was actively resistant to, even though the things they wanted to tie together were totally related (addressing ACA funding in the funding bill makes significantly more sense than addressing the codification of same-sex marriage in the funding bill). You're proving my point.
By your own logic, since this was absolutely predictable I must be right.Me said:I'm sure I could go through and find examples of each individual republican either writing or endorsing tied legislation and you'd write them off as not being republican or it just being a 1 time slip.
It was neither not Republicans nor a one time slip. It was related to the bill. Funding is related to the funding bill.By your own logic, since this was absolutely predictable I must be right.
The "goalpost" was "totally unrelated" from the beginning. Nothing has moved.Does your back hurt from moving that goalpost? Or do your feet hurt from the tap dancing you're doing?
K. How about the deeply unpopular REAL ID Act being attached as a rider to a funding bill on... defence and tsunami relief?SNIP
Sure, keep telling yourself that.The "goalpost" was "totally unrelated" from the beginning. Nothing has moved.
No it isn't.It was neither not Republicans nor a one time slip. It was related to the bill. Funding is related to the funding bill.
Uh, all electronic transactions are recorded and trackable.Fuck you NRA.
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What changed is that Visa and MasterCard now have purchases made at gun shops in their own category, rather than "general merchandise" like they used to.Uh, all electronic transactions are recorded and trackable.
Yeah but the transaction is still going to clearly state the trading name of the dealer and presumably their business number. A change of category isn't going to mean much if the transaction still shows at being from a firearms store.What changed is that Visa and MasterCard now have purchases made at gun shops in their own category, rather than "general merchandise" like they used to.
Thank you. I am aware there are times Republicans tied things together. Honestly, I surprised the user insisting Republicans are as bad couldn't actually find one good example. Like, it's not exactly the same thing, cause you're talking about times things were added to bills to get the things passed, and the Democratic schtick is doing the opposite, adding poison pills to bills that would otherwise have bipartisan support to make Republicans vote against them, but you did succeed where crimson failed, I'll give you that.K. How about the deeply unpopular REAL ID Act being attached as a rider to a funding bill on... defence and tsunami relief?
Or the bill allowing corporations to more easily share and monetise consumer data being attached as a rider to the consolidated spending bill?
EDIT: Also, to be frank, you know perfectly well that attaching a deeply contentious provision to a bill that is absolutely required to pass to stop the government shutting down is the shittiest possible use of the rider.
It's literally there. You can read the thread post by post. The post that started this tangent has the word "enrelated". The request to crimson to give one example factually says "totally unrelated".Sure, keep telling yourself that.